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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Figures Reissues Discussion

Postby MaximalNui » Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:27 am

Nemesis Reformatted wrote:Cybershark is my #1 favorite Beast Wars character but I wanted a new version with updated articulation. I obviously have the original. So I was disappointed to see it's just a reissue. :(

But it's totally awesome to see him on the list & mentioned again after all these years. The stupid fans would never choose a non-show character for anything. Just being honest. Most fans try to erase anything that wasn't in the toon. :roll:


Can't say for everyone, but for me it's mostly a cost-saving measure: since I can't spend all my money on collections, I just buy the ones that more accurately represent the characters I watched and loved.

Though if I remember correctly, Cybershark and the other toyline-exclusive characters were the stars of the original IDW Beast Wars comics, and they all apeared as background cameos at the end of the original IDW continuity, so that might be a good enough loophole...if they ever get here, that is; it's already hard to find contemporary Transformers in my town, let alone reissues.
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Figures Reissues Discussion

Postby TOO MUCH ENERGON! » Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:38 am

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Cybershark and Wolfang (which K-9 is a redeco of) were always my favourite non-show Beast Wars toys, so this is pretty rad. I have both figures already, but I’ll probably pick the reissues up anyway to keep in box.
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Figures Reissues Discussion

Postby Whifflefire » Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:10 am

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Nemesis Reformatted wrote:Cybershark is my #1 favorite Beast Wars character but I wanted a new version with updated articulation. I obviously have the original. So I was disappointed to see it's just a reissue. :(

But it's totally awesome to see him on the list & mentioned again after all these years. The stupid fans would never choose a non-show character for anything. Just being honest. Most fans try to erase anything that wasn't in the toon. :roll:



Well I, for one, have been pining for a Generations Razorbeast for Years, and was really hoping that Polar Claw was going to happen. I would certainly be interested in updated or rereleased toy-only characters.
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Figures Reissues Discussion

Postby TOO MUCH ENERGON! » Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:18 am

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New molds of Razorbeast and Polar Claw would be dope. Shame we didn’t get the latter in Kingdom as was originally rumoured.
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Figures Reissues Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:25 am

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Interestingly about Razorbeast, his upcoming appearance in the new Beast Wars comics is due to Hasbro vetoing the comic writer's original character choice. Erik Burnham wanted to bring in a different Beast Wars character, but Hasbro said "No, that character is off limits." So he went with Razorbeast instead. Makes you wonder who was originally and why Hasbro stepped in and forbade that character's use.
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Figures Reissues Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:34 am

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TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:Cybershark and Wolfang (which K-9 is a redeco of)



K-9 is a redeco and retool of Wolfang. Beast Mode and detachable shield have different engineering.

MaximalNui wrote:Though if I remember correctly, Cybershark and the other toyline-exclusive characters were the stars of the original IDW Beast Wars comics


As far as The Gathering/Ascending, no. Furman stuck these characters as 'visual cameos with odd, generic lines of dialogue'. The Beast Wars 2 and Neo characters got all the attention instead.

Sabrblade wrote:Interestingly about Razorbeast, his upcoming appearance in the new Beast Wars comics is due to Hasbro vetoing the comic writer's original character choice. Erik Burnham wanted to bring in a different Beast Wars character, but Hasbro said "No, that character is off limits." So he went with Razorbeast instead. Makes you wonder who was originally and why Hasbro stepped in and forbade that character's use.


:-? Curious. Who would be no-go, after all these years?

Polar Claw? Transquito?? The Mutants???
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Figures Reissues Discussion

Postby Sculyblast » Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:42 am

Sabrblade wrote:Interestingly about Razorbeast, his upcoming appearance in the new Beast Wars comics is due to Hasbro vetoing the comic writer's original character choice. Erik Burnham wanted to bring in a different Beast Wars character, but Hasbro said "No, that character is off limits." So he went with Razorbeast instead. Makes you wonder who was originally and why Hasbro stepped in and forbade that character's use.


of the Non-transmetal, non-fusor toys we get the following options:

Armordillo, Clawjaw, Snarl, Wolffang, K9, Grimlock, Cybershark, Bonecrusher, Polarclaw and B'boom.

of these, Armordillo, Clawjaw and Snarl are just too bland.

B'boom is always hard to make work in a story. it is a primate that transforms into a primate. So I don't think the writer would pick him as character

I cannot think of any reason why Wolffang, K9, Cybershark and Bonecrusher would be too controversial.

Polarclaw is interesting, perhaps the same logic that brough on this veto, brought on the cancelation of a polarclaw kingdom toy.

I can see them veto-ing grimlock, because they don't want the character to be overused.
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Figures Reissues Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:43 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Interestingly about Razorbeast, his upcoming appearance in the new Beast Wars comics is due to Hasbro vetoing the comic writer's original character choice. Erik Burnham wanted to bring in a different Beast Wars character, but Hasbro said "No, that character is off limits." So he went with Razorbeast instead. Makes you wonder who was originally and why Hasbro stepped in and forbade that character's use.


:-? Curious. Who would be no-go, after all these years?

Polar Claw? Transquito?? The Mutants???
All I know is that Burnham said he wasn't allowed to say, not even what its beast mode was since that would have given away its identity.

The only BW character that comes to mind that I could see Hasbro putting their foot down on is BW Grimlock, but it's fun to wonder if it could have been someone without any ties to G1 like those you mentioned.
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Figures Reissues Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:48 am

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BW Grimlock would make sense as a veto. Yet he does have a new toy in Kingdom... Unlike cancelled Polar Claw. That's definitely piqued my curiosity.

The Mutants came to my mind. Since they are a bit of a grey area of the toyline. I doubt they will ever be reissued or rolled into another series.
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Figures Reissues Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:58 am

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I guess we'll have to see what kind of role Razorbeast plays. If he emerges from his pod a newly born Maximal, that'll make it harder to figure out who he replaced. But if he emerges as a preexisting person from Cybertron who was put into stasis, that might make it easier.
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Figures Reissues Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:06 am

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Sabrblade wrote:I guess we'll have to see what kind of role Razorbeast plays. If he emerges from his pod a newly born Maximal, that'll make it harder to figure out who he replaced. But if he emerges as a preexisting person from Cybertron who was put into stasis, that might make it easier.



Indeed. Back on topic, it would be nice for more of the old basics to be reissued. Like Razorbeast, Insecticon and Armordillo...

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I have all the Wolfang and Cybershark mold variants. The only Terrorsaur figure I liked was the TM 1 design. As for Tarantulas. While I had and loved the figure. I also recall it's very obvious flaw in the ball jointed "hands". So I wouldn't rebuy that one.
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Figures Reissues Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:58 am

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I have been missing one of Cybershark's pectoral fins since I had him, so this will truly be amazing to finally have a complete one.
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Figures Reissues Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:02 am

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I guess we'll have to see what kind of role Razorbeast plays. If he emerges from his pod a newly born Maximal, that'll make it harder to figure out who he replaced. But if he emerges as a preexisting person from Cybertron who was put into stasis, that might make it easier.



Indeed. Back on topic, it would be nice for more of the old basics to be reissued. Like Razorbeast, Insecticon and Armordillo...

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I have all the Wolfang and Cybershark mold variants. The only Terrorsaur figure I liked was the TM 1 design. As for Tarantulas. While I had and loved the figure. I also recall it's very obvious flaw in the ball jointed "hands". So I wouldn't rebuy that one.


I would love to get all those basics again, such amazing toys. Simple but not simplified, if that makes sense. That pic is missing the snapping turtle, one of the best of the bunch.
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Figures Reissues Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:06 am

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william-james88 wrote:I have been missing one of Cybershark's pectoral fins since I had him, so this will truly be amazing to finally have a complete one.


I'm missing a Frill on Reptilion (TM 2 Iguanus redeco) and pectoral fin on TM1 Sky Byte, since I bought them. Specific spare parts seem hard to come by with Beast Wars figures :-?

william-james88 wrote:I would love to get all those basics again, such amazing toys. Simple but not simplified, if that makes sense. That pic is missing the snapping turtle, one of the best of the bunch.


Indeed. Snapper is a great little figure! As is Razorclaw, the first BW crab. You'll note some of the figures I've mentioned (The Mutants, Armordillo) were plagued with GPS. Stable reissues for such notorious figures would be welcome. I wonder if they would bother?
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Figures Reissues Discussion

Postby o.supreme » Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:45 am

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Did I miss something? I didn't see BW Scorponok on the list of new wave reissue leaks, yet PvP has a review of one up as of an hour ago... :???:

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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Figures Reissues Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Thu Sep 23, 2021 12:38 pm

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o.supreme wrote:Did I miss something? I didn't see BW Scorponok on the list of new wave reissue leaks, yet PvP has a review of one up as of an hour ago... :???:



But no box, rrrrgh

Also, the list we posted was for 2022, if this scorponok is for 2021 we wouldn't have seen it.
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Figures Reissues Discussion

Postby o.supreme » Thu Sep 23, 2021 12:44 pm

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True, but I just figured, as late we are into the year, the initial 4 releases, which just came out recently, would be all there was for 2021.
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Figures Reissues Discussion

Postby TOO MUCH ENERGON! » Thu Sep 23, 2021 12:56 pm

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A SCORPONOK REISSUE?!

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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Figures Reissues Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:41 pm

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A reissue for Scorponok? Good luck with the clip holding the Cyberbee...

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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Figures Reissues Discussion

Postby Sculyblast » Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:56 pm

Do you guys think an Inferno reissue is likely, or do most shops still have the original on their shelfs?
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Figures Reissues Discussion

Postby blackeyedprime » Thu Sep 23, 2021 2:01 pm

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o.supreme wrote:Did I miss something? I didn't see BW Scorponok on the list of new wave reissue leaks, yet PvP has a review of one up as of an hour ago... :???:



Must have missed it because it wasnt posted in the Ill gotten toys review thread XD


I'd be tempted to get this over Kingdoms Scorponok especially as it is a repaint and not just a reissue and it being more the size it should be to me, but I might as well wait until/IF MP
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Video Review of New Beast Wars Scorponok Reissue

Postby william-james88 » Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:06 pm

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This came as a surprise. Reviewer Prime vs prime has a review up of a redeco of the original Beast Wars Scorponok. It,s claimed as part of the Walmart reissue line but there is no box in the review and there is no listing on the Walmart computer for a Vintage Scorponok. Yet this is indeed a new toy and has a more scho accurate grey plastic body compared to the original black release (and differs from the Takara green sticker release too).

Maybe this is a toy that will be released soon, or maybe not, we don't know. But we wanted to give you the info.

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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Figures Reissues Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:17 pm

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Hopefully this version isn't as fragile as the original Kenner and Takara versions.
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Figures Reissues Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:22 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Hopefully this version isn't as fragile as the original Kenner and Takara versions.


I found an original at a thrift store a few years ago. While it was missing the Cyber Bee, everything else felt solid and still does. What was the issue some people had?
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Figures Reissues Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:31 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Hopefully this version isn't as fragile as the original Kenner and Takara versions.


I found an original at a thrift store a few years ago. While it was missing the Cyber Bee, everything else felt solid and still does. What was the issue some people had?
I own the Takara dark blue recolor. When I first got it MISB just a few short years ago, the joint connecting the tail to the body sheared right off and immediately disintegrated upon my first ever attempt to transform the figure right out of the box, permanently disconnecting the tail from the body.

I never owned the original Kenner version, but when I talked to BW expert Primal Sabbath (who's spent a good portion of his life researching and examining BW toy color and mold variations over the years) about it earlier this year, he said that that's a common breakage issue for the mold in general.
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