o.supreme wrote:So I finally saw Cheetor and Rattrap at walmart today. I had no intention of getting them, but it was just nice to see something, anything *new*.
Having seen them in person now, I have to ask, (Seinfeld voice) What's the deal with the overly large cards? (end Seinfeld voice).
I mean I've seen them on Toybiz reproductions of Marvel action figures, and the rerelease of The Real Ghostbusters vintage figures as well (not sure who makes those), and now BW. Also, while MOTU Origins gets it right on most of its action figures, I see battle-Armor He-Man & Skeletor have the overly large ones, and I can't for the life of me understand why. I mean if companies are trying to be environmentally friendly, one would think going with the original (smaller) cardback size would be best, and probably more aesthetically pleasing to adult collectors who want these.
I mean I know the reissues of Original Transformers figures at Walmart didn't mimic the OG packaging look 100%, but they got closer than I've seen on most other reissue lines. (With the exception of Prime without his trailer which wasn't a thing in 84-86)
Emerje wrote:Picked up Rattrap today, he was the only Beast Wars reissue on the shelves. Funny seeing a Basic figure on a Deluxe card back, but they're selling him at the same price point as Cheetor so they must have wanted to make the cards match. Comparing old Cheetor packages with the reissue, just eyeballing it they appear to be identical sizes.
Emerje
william-james88 wrote:Rattrap's card back is smaller than Cheetor's.
Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:Rattrap's card back is smaller than Cheetor's.
Width, but what about height? That still seems wider than the original.
The reissue looks a lot smaller on the card and in the bubble than the original.
Emerje
Emerje wrote:I've only seen Rattrap in person so I was just assuming they were the exact same sized cards since I thought they were packed in the same case. I don't have my original cards handy (buried in the closet or out in storage) so I can't say if they match or not. You'd think someone by now would have compared the old and new backers. Maybe there's no point because they're no different? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Emerje
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Emerje wrote:I've only seen Rattrap in person so I was just assuming they were the exact same sized cards since I thought they were packed in the same case. I don't have my original cards handy (buried in the closet or out in storage) so I can't say if they match or not. You'd think someone by now would have compared the old and new backers. Maybe there's no point because they're no different? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Emerje
Or most didn't bother keeping them back in '96?
I still have a MOC Walmart Transmetal Rattrap and Tripredacus Agent. I also still have Mutant Beast Wars Icebird's opened packaging, and BotCon 1999 Windrazor's opened packaging.Emerje wrote:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Emerje wrote:I've only seen Rattrap in person so I was just assuming they were the exact same sized cards since I thought they were packed in the same case. I don't have my original cards handy (buried in the closet or out in storage) so I can't say if they match or not. You'd think someone by now would have compared the old and new backers. Maybe there's no point because they're no different? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Emerje
Or most didn't bother keeping them back in '96?
Maybe I'm expecting too much for there to be MOC collectors out there that also bought these.
Emerje
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I still have a MOC Walmart Transmetal Rattrap and Tripredacus Agent.
I would if my Walmarts would actually carry them. Either their shelves are empty or they still have some Retro Headmasters taking up that space.o.supreme wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I still have a MOC Walmart Transmetal Rattrap and Tripredacus Agent.
Cool. Since those 2 are deluxe on card, can you by chance compare them to the recent Cheetor Reissue to confirm if the Cheetor card is in fact bigger?
I just measured the cardbacks for both Tripredacus Agent and Icebird. Both are Deluxe cardbacks that are just a smidge shorter than 12 inches tall and just under 8 1/2 inches wide.o.supreme wrote:Or even if you could provide the dimensions of any original BW deluxe card? Then next time I or anybody else here sees the new Cheetor's at Walmart we can compare.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I just measured the cardbacks for both Tripredacus Agent and Icebird. Both are Deluxe cardbacks that are just a smidge shorter than 12 inches tall and just under 8 1/2 inches wide.
Though, keep in mind that they use the 1999-2000 style packaging for Transmetal 2s and Fox Kids redecos, which may possibly differ from the dimensions of the 1996 Deluxe cardbacks.
o.supreme wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I just measured the cardbacks for both Tripredacus Agent and Icebird. Both are Deluxe cardbacks that are just a smidge shorter than 12 inches tall and just under 8 1/2 inches wide.
Though, keep in mind that they use the 1999-2000 style packaging for Transmetal 2s and Fox Kids redecos, which may possibly differ from the dimensions of the 1996 Deluxe cardbacks.
Well I am shocked. I measured reissue Cheetor today at Walmart and it is the same (just under 12 inches tall by 8 1/2 inches wide) I could have sworn the cardbacks for deluxes were smaller back then...especially since I worked at retail and saw all of them come case fresh from 1996-1998. I am pretty sure they were all the same size even the latter Fox Kids releases. So I was wrong.
Basic Rattrap is the same height (just under 12 inches), but only 7 inches wide. *If someone has an old school basic card they can measure for comparison?
Also just for grins, though I'm not contesting it, The Supreme Boxes were 9 1/2 inches tall by 11 wide (forgot to get the depth )
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:So, according to this Tweet, Rattrap is apparently a brand new recreated mold and not the original pulled out of storage or something - https://twitter.com/BladeGnome/status/1449142151389061122
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Sabrblade wrote:So, according to this Tweet, Rattrap is apparently a brand new recreated mold and not the original pulled out of storage or something - https://twitter.com/BladeGnome/status/1449142151389061122
Really... The tooling may be lost, but they still had the Master copy handy?
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