william-james88 wrote:If you had to look at it a fair bit to figure that out then it kind of proves my point. If the film really wanted to distance itself, then dont turn him into a camarro.
I didn't mean that as "I couldn't tell until I looked at it more" the design doesn't even share proportions, the only similarity between the two is the car hood chest and even then it looks more like the TFP character then the 2007 version.
His arms and legs are still the very round and smooth looks the rest of his designs in this film have, he doesn't have door wings in sight.
There are connections to the Bay films but they are so little and none of them explicitly mean this is a prequel for sure, but there are so many other parts of the movie that change the continuity pretty drastically like the ending.
Edit: I have a list of contradictions from the other movies that someone else wrote up
- Designs look different.
- Soundwave and Shockwave sounded different. Not sure how they would go from having legitimate voices to growling monsters in a span of 20ish years.
- Autobots did not arrive on the Earth because of the All Spark, instead, they arrive to regroup. It seems like Earth was just a random planet Optimus chose.
- No mention of Megatron which is strange as S7 mentions they want to catch the Transformers to do experiments on them. Wouldn't they have done experiments on Megatron already? Or wouldn't that have been a point of topic among the government officials?
- Bots did not learn English through the internet. However, this breaks down in the rest of the films too.
- Film implied Bumblebee has never been on Earth before so that throws the whole WWII **** out the window.
- Optimus and Autobots arrive to Earth in the 80's.
- Bumblebee doesn't have the door wings, even when he scans the Camaro. Basically, he doesn't look the same at all.
- Bee went from Skull faced Bee in WWII to cute faced Bee in this film to Skull faced Bee in '07.
- Protoforms aren't a thing anymore. Instead, they arrive in little pods.
- No motive for the Decepticons to get the All Spark to end the war. Instead, Shatter stated the war will end once they kill Prime (and his Autobots) and likely why they wanted to find Prime so badly.
- Bumblebee has an American accent in here and a British accent in '07 film.
- The pods don't seem like they're reusable so it's assumed the Bots don't have a method to leave the planet and arrive again in '07.
- The behind the scenes of the '07 film mentioned Megatron transforms into his protoform mode in the city battle. We see this same mode in the Cybertron flashback from Optimus meaning Cybertron modes and protoform modes are the same thing in the '07 fim. This would mean that when Prime and the Autobots arrived as protoforms in the first movie, they were also in their Cybertronian modes, which is of course different from their Cybertronian modes in this film. Also, we straight up see that Soundwave's Cybertronian mode is completely different in ROTF.
- Cybertron looks completely different.