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Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:But we got Wheeljack eventually too,

No we didn't, we got Earthrise Wheeljack instead of Siege Wheeljack.

I'm sure what he meant was ER wheeljack with "battle damage" and minor mold differences if he'd appeared in Siege. Like all the others.

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:But we got Wheeljack eventually too,

No we didn't, we got Earthrise Wheeljack instead of Siege Wheeljack.

I'm sure what he meant was ER wheeljack with "battle damage" and minor mold differences if he'd appeared in Siege. Like all the others.

And what I've been talking about is the Wheeljack that Hasbro said inspired the whole Siege line in the first place, the very one that Till-all-R1 was asking about in the post of his that I responded to at the beginning of this talk in the first place.

I dunno what cybertronian Wheeljack they were looking at, but if they based siege on the G1 1st episode Wheeljack, then they failed spectacularly.

I really think that was bad intel Hasbro gave people, or they misinterpreted it. Either way, I have almost no doubt that box van Wheeljack was never going to happen, no matter what. It would have been like the rest: retooled alt mode to look "Cybertronian" with some semblence of a van, that's it.

As is, Origins Bee is fantastic. He is by far one of my favorites of the year

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:As is, Origins Bee is fantastic. He is by far one of my favorites of the year

Indeed. The bot is almost Core Class sized, but the UFO is definitely Deluxe. That's some impressive mass-shifting, here!

This is so cool (not my pic)

So, I finally got my upgrade kit for WFC Fangry, and he looks good - but he is definitely the proverbial 'floppy mess.'

The price is pretty nice to be honest

The Buzzworthy Bumblebee line is probably the most random sublines we ever had in Transformers history with new molds, rereleases from a bunch of different lines, new characters, and now slight redecos of both Studio Series 86 Kup and Earthrise Cliffjumper. They are part of a new wave of deluxe figures which also feature Studio Series B127. These are out in Honk Kong now, as is Kingdom Hot Rod and the Beast Wars Scorponok reissue. While we only see them in box we can make out some of the deco differences from the original releases. The biggest difference being the painted windows which give them more of a cartoon aesthetic.

These images appeared on Twitter. Let us know if you'd find this worthy of a double dip or not.

Ah, that’s where that B-127 redeco ended up! Interesting that it keeps the numbering of the original.

Glad Cliffjumper is getting rereleased, but I hate that they're using painted windows. It didn't look good on the Classics Rodimus in that 2-pack with Universe Cyclonus, and it doesn't look good here either. Kup is kinda alright, but even then I'd prefer something that doesn't clash with the rest of my collection.

Welp, time to abandon my 86 Cliffjumper custom. This more or less looks exactly what I was doing.

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Ah, that’s where that B-127 redeco ended up! Interesting that it keeps the numbering of the original.

So does Kup, but that then implies that Cliffjumper will be SS86 13. Did we even have Cliff leaked for SS86 yet? If not, this all but confirms it I think.

Well, looks like I may be selling my SS86 Kup...
I think the painted windshield looks substantially better... Obviously it doesn't make the shoulders look higher, but the upper torso looks way more cohesive.
I can also appreciate it looks like they added just a little bit of paint/line work that was seen in the movie to show his "age".
Anyway, as I look at this new version, I want it. I'm going to get it as soon as I can.


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Although it probably doesn't matter now...
I have done a 180 with Cliffjumper... What initially was kind of mehhh (and I think I was kind of distracted by the window paint) has turned into a very-much-going-to-buy-this situation.
This is substantially better enough for me that I'll try and sell my ER version.

This kind of makes me wonder if this subline is going to bring us a Magenta Hot Rod. Which I'm very in favor of!
Imo it seems unlikely that Buzzworthy is going to stop with two characters... Especially these two.

Okay, this is amazing news! I was just thinking earlier today about Earthrise Cliffjumper and how I wished it was a little closer to the G1 cartoon like many of the other various G1 updates we've gotten over the past few years. And now, that's exactly what we're getting! That's some INSTANT gratification, lol! I hope these show up at Target here in the US in the coming weeks.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Ah, that’s where that B-127 redeco ended up! Interesting that it keeps the numbering of the original.

So does Kup, but that then implies that Cliffjumper will be SS86 13. Did we even have Cliff leaked for SS86 yet? If not, this all but confirms it I think.

Maybe the Cliffjumper that comes out in the Studio Series 86 line proper will have unpainted blue plastic windows, but otherwise have the same deco as the Buzzworthy Bumblebee release, similar to what we see with SS86-02 Kup.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
So does Kup, but that then implies that Cliffjumper will be SS86 13. Did we even have Cliff leaked for SS86 yet? If not, this all but confirms it I think.

It’s possible, although Buzzworthy is a little weird with releases and numbering. For example, AOE High Octane Bumblebee was repacked in a Buzzworthy 2-pack with Stinger as a newly numbered SS figure, but by all indications it won’t be getting a single release. SS-74 ROTF Bumblebee was single packed in Buzzworthy as an early release before showing in the mainline though.

Kup just seems like such a weird choice for Buzzworthy, do Kup and Bumblebee ever interact?

The funny thing is Kup looks more movie accurate in Buzzworthy Bumblebee. And Cliffjumper with gray limbs is more cartoon accurate as well.

Good grief. Do I sell off the other ones?

I think Kup looks good with the paint, as sol magnus said, he's actually more movie accurate. I like Cliffy as he is in ER, so I'll be passing on this version. The painted window doesn't look good to me.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I think Kup looks good with the paint, as sol magnus said, he's actually more movie accurate. I like Cliffy as he is in ER, so I'll be passing on this version. The painted window doesn't look good to me.

That's the only thing I'm really iffy on too, honestly. But, it's not a dealbreaker for me. The mix of gray and black plastic/paint for the robot mode limbs is perfectly on model with the G1 cartoon and movie, and he actually has an Autobot symbol on this release too! (Why did Earthrise omit that?) My hope is that we do see a SS86-13 Cliffjumper in the proper Studio Series line next year, then the deco will also be a little different, like this BB Kup, but it will only omit the painted windows. That's the best of both worlds for me!

Rodimus Prime wrote:I think Kup looks good with the paint, as sol magnus said, he's actually more movie accurate. I like Cliffy as he is in ER, so I'll be passing on this version. The painted window doesn't look good to me.

I bet they make Jazz, too.

sol magnus wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I think Kup looks good with the paint, as sol magnus said, he's actually more movie accurate. I like Cliffy as he is in ER, so I'll be passing on this version. The painted window doesn't look good to me.

I bet they make Jazz, too.

I have that feeling too, and, if Hasbro is really smart, they can do without any transparent plastic for that release, which should make some collectors worried about the SS86 release of Jazz's fragility very happy.

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
So does Kup, but that then implies that Cliffjumper will be SS86 13. Did we even have Cliff leaked for SS86 yet? If not, this all but confirms it I think.

It’s possible, although Buzzworthy is a little weird with releases and numbering. For example, AOE High Octane Bumblebee was repacked in a Buzzworthy 2-pack with Stinger as a newly numbered SS figure, but by all indications it won’t be getting a single release. SS-74 ROTF Bumblebee was single packed in Buzzworthy as an early release before showing in the mainline though.

Kup just seems like such a weird choice for Buzzworthy, do Kup and Bumblebee ever interact?

Not in any slightly significant way that would bear association. But neither did Fangry. The Buzzworthy line is proving to just be a way to have more product on shelves. Hasbro probably saw that more Kup was needed based on orders and this is how they are satisfying predicted demand.

I think the big pack with Fangry, SG Primal, et al solidly proved that "Buzzworthy Bumblebee" is basically an odds and sods line.

I look forward to the kind of people who buy those Toyhax cel shaded windshield stickers selling their ER Cliffjumpers off at or near cost to fund purchasing this version.

william-james88 wrote:
Not in any slightly significant way that would bear association. But neither did Fangry. The Buzzworthy line is proving to just be a way to have more product on shelves. Hasbro probably saw that more Kup was needed based on orders and this is how they are satisfying predicted demand.

Ah, that's right. Speaking of that pack, I wonder if we'll see a reissue of the Bumblebee from that pack or Netflix Bee in Buzzworthy, like what we're seeing with Cliffjumper here.