Sabrblade wrote:xyl360 wrote:Yeah, the fiction's its own thing, but it's no coincidence that (so far at least) every figure from this continuity they've done which was a Beast Era character was NOT available in any form in the Dawn of Future's Past set.
While true in that regard, the very next Beast Era character toy they announced to be doing is Tarantulas, whom they specified as being "Dawn of Future's Past Tarantulas" rather than as a part of this new series.
Right, and just because they call him "Dawn of Future's Past" and not the others surely means that the others were just cases of absolute coincidence and they had absolutely no intention of filling any gaps in Botcon 2006 collectors'/owners' collections. It was all for the new fiction and this new continuity is gospel and is in no way a contrived way of inserting characters, stories and figures into the Beast Wars/G1 universe that conflict with it. No, I don't think so. They can call them whatever they like, but the choices they've made speak volumes about their true intent. They know the Botcon 2006 set was one of the most sought after and popular sets ever (and still is, just check the after market prices on them
) and that using figures/characters that could fit into that set/continuity that hadn't been done yet would sell like hotcakes. And of course for the
subscription service that costs oh so much more money (and reaps so much more profit for them) the next figure they do that's just like the others (Rampage, Depth Charge, Transmutate) IS "officially" part of the "Dawn of Future's Past" set and continuity.
I'm sorry, but this is something you and I are just going to have to disagree on. I see very clearly what they are doing. It's all marketing tactics and nothing more, to try and push this new continuity that allows them to (likely) re-do characters already done in the most popular Botcon Exclusive set ever using new molds to generate more sales (hey, that old 2006 Megatron goes for $1000, why wouldn't a NEW Megatron (or any other already done character/figure) sell well also, especially in a new mold or better yet, IN A NEW "CONTINUITY" where they can create alternate versions of those same characters to give us obsessive collector types more stuff to buy (Shattered Glass anyone?)). It's a snow job, plain and simple. There's nothing wrong with it, and it's good marketing, especially considering the fact that they really seem to be running out of good ideas these days as they continue to cover the most obscure OR the most requested repaints/retools from the past (like Scorponok, Devcon, Alpha Trion, Chromedome etc.). They pull ideas from wherever they can for things they believe will sell, so trying to bleed that pre-Beast Wars tree even more is a surefire way to sell more toys, get more club memberships and get more subscriptions to their new service.
Again, there's nothing at all wrong with it because Has/Tak do precisely the same thing (it's the reason they're tying things into the comics now and changing bodies so they can release new versions of existing/already done in Classics characters etc.), but to pretend that this isn't what they're doing and that it's all somehow driven by this "new" continuity and fiction just sounds absurd to me. The fiction was created so that they could drink from the Beast Wars/pre-Beast Wars well again, that's all.
And God, if they ever get the ability to actually create new molds and do Transtech for real, I would buy every single toy no matter the cost. Won't happen, but a bot can dream can he not
? By the way, Animated Cheetor, when mis-transformed in vehicle mode, makes a pretty damn decent stand-in for Transtech Cheetor
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And I thought Transtech was the cancelled sequel series/toy line to Beast Machines, not a separate universe/continuity. Is that not the case? I could have sworn that's what Hasbro/the Wiki's etc. all said.
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