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News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:39 am

A little paint goes a long way to make those side antennae really stand out.

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:40 am

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Heads look so similar I don't see the point in doing a new mold...

It's the same headsculpt as Lio Convoy.

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:44 am

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Heads look so similar I don't see the point in doing a new mold...

similar to pax or lio convoy? cause its the same head as lio Convoy

News Credits: 112 · by **megatronus** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:52 am

Not loving that head. Not at all.

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:54 am

megatronus wrote:Not loving that head. Not at all.

What else is new? Great looking design, small little head... Reason why I didn't renew my membership this year.

News Credits: 112 · by **megatronus** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:00 am

mooncake623 wrote:
megatronus wrote:Not loving that head. Not at all.

What else is new? Great looking design, small little head... Reason why I didn't renew my membership this year.

I don't think the head is small, necessarily - just not a great fit for Nova. Leo Prime is fine, IMO.

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:02 am

megatronus wrote:
mooncake623 wrote:
megatronus wrote:Not loving that head. Not at all.

What else is new? Great looking design, small little head... Reason why I didn't renew my membership this year.

I don't think the head is small, necessarily - just not a great fit for Nova. Leo Prime is fine, IMO.

Looks like squished compared to this

News Credits: 1 · by **rpetras** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:22 am

I liked these, but not enough to bother renewing this year.

Their server had my CC info all screwed up ... AGAIN, and I decided I was done dealing with these clowns.

If there are any figs I REALLY want, I'll pay the two-bits to get them through BBTS or at a convention.

by **gothsaurus** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:28 am

Wow. I had a lot of worries about these two looking "samey", but wow. Side by side, they look REALLY different. Nice cost-effective way to reuse a mold and head sculpt to deliver two good figures to two different fan groups.

News Credits: 2 · by **Crosscheck** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:34 am

Nova looks pretty good. Between him and Lio Convoy, I kinda regret not resubbing. One free figure isn't worth the subscription to me. I guess I will have to watch eBay for Lio Convoy. I kinda want to see what Orion Pax would look like in Optimal Optimus colors.

Website · by **MartianSpyGirl1996** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:19 am

mooncake623 wrote:
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Heads look so similar I don't see the point in doing a new mold...

similar to pax or lio convoy? cause its the same head as lio Convoy

Obviously. Similar to Pax

Crosscheck wrote:I kinda want to see what Orion Pax would look like in Optimal Optimus colors.

I would LOVE to see that!

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:26 am

Do want, even if the paint on the head doesn't quite line up.

Will probably put it on my Legends shelf. That scale pairing is about right... right?

News Credits: 2 · by **Crosscheck** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:30 am

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:
mooncake623 wrote:
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Heads look so similar I don't see the point in doing a new mold...

similar to pax or lio convoy? cause its the same head as lio Convoy

Obviously. Similar to Pax

Crosscheck wrote:I kinda want to see what Orion Pax would look like in Optimal Optimus colors.

I would LOVE to see that!

Makes me wish I knew how to digibash.

Website · by **MartianSpyGirl1996** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:46 am

Crosscheck wrote:
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:
Crosscheck wrote:I kinda want to see what Orion Pax would look like in Optimal Optimus colors.

I would LOVE to see that!

Makes me wish I knew how to digibash.

Same

All I can do are Paint scribbles lol

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:49 am

Mindmaster wrote:Do want, even if the paint on the head doesn't quite line up.

Will probably put it on my Legends shelf. That scale pairing is about right... right?

I have the Orion figure myself but I don't think it goes well with the legends size.

Not due to the size of the mold it just looks to bulky (for lack of better word) compared to legends Bee or Tailgate.

News Credits: 25 · by **SW's SilverHammer** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:37 am

I don't want to hate this, but you're making it so difficult not to. The head doesn't fit for the lineage of nova prime, it's poorly painted, granted that could be because it's a stolen Chinese test shot. It amazingly looks like a monochrome lio convoy, oh and did I mention the head looks terrible, both forthe chcharacter, and in regards to sculpt.

News Credits: 112 · by **megatronus** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:16 pm

mooncake623 wrote:
megatronus wrote:
mooncake623 wrote:
megatronus wrote:Not loving that head. Not at all.

What else is new? Great looking design, small little head... Reason why I didn't renew my membership this year.

I don't think the head is small, necessarily - just not a great fit for Nova. Leo Prime is fine, IMO.

Looks like squished compared to this

Squished, yes. Small, no. It's not as if he head were miniaturized, a la Protoform X.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:26 pm

The head looks like a badly made Shapeways plastic model.

Website · by **MartianSpyGirl1996** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:08 pm

megatronus wrote:Squished, yes. Small, no. It's not as if he head were miniaturized, a la Protoform X.

Or poor wittle Punch's pimple of a head :lol:

News Credits: 112 · by **megatronus** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:20 pm

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:
megatronus wrote:Squished, yes. Small, no. It's not as if he head were miniaturized, a la Protoform X.

Or poor wittle Punch's pimple of a head

Doesn't make me want Punch any less, though.

News Credits: 1 · by **durroth** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:44 pm

I wish they would do a retail rerelease of RM lio convoy. If you're just displaying them in bot mode, that head would look much better. but of course Legends Commander Lio Convoy is 60+ T.T

News Credits: 4 · by **KnightStrike** » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:19 am

I am actually liking that Nova. I make have to try to find a deal on a Lio Convoy and a Nova Prime in the b/s/t threads. If these were regular retail I'd absolutely grab them.

by **gothsaurus** » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:38 am

Yeah, I hope Hasbro/Takara designers can take a cue and start PLANNING for future head swaps... leave a little extra space instead of building only enough space for that one head.

Given, I know each toy design is its own set of problems for designers. Just something I hope they are keeping in mind now. >:oP

News Credits: 112 · by **megatronus** » Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:12 am

KnightStrike wrote:If these were regular retail I'd absolutely grab them.

Me too! I mean, I'm already all over them, but the appeal would be much wider if they were priced at regular retail. The same could be said of most Club releases.

gothsaurus wrote:Yeah, I hope Hasbro/Takara designers can take a cue and start PLANNING for future head swaps... leave a little extra space instead of building only enough space for that one head.

Given, I know each toy design is its own set of problems for designers. Just something I hope they are keeping in mind now.

Why would Has/Tak accommodate what is essentially a TFCC problem? Hasbro shouldn't have to engineer extra room into things on the chance possibility the Club latches on to that mold for their use.

Rather, the Club should be better at engineering their heads. Or invest the additional money to remold the part(s) the head has to collapse into. Showing awesome concept art and failing to deliver on those expectations hurts the Club more than a $5-10 hike per figure for those retoolings would.

Take Protoform X. Had they done a simple retool to expand the opening the head inserts into for vehicle mode (which would require remolding a single piece) that figure would be epic. As it is, he suffers from shrunken head syndrome. Bummer. And now we have to deal with Lio/Nova's squished heads, too. Grr.

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:29 am

megatronus wrote:Rather, the Club should be better at engineering their heads. Or invest the additional money to remold the part(s) the head has to collapse into. Showing awesome concept art and failing to deliver on those expectations hurts the Club more than a $5-10 hike per figure for those retoolings would.

Take Protoform X. Had they done a simple retool to expand the opening the head inserts into for vehicle mode (which would require remolding a single piece) that figure would be epic. As it is, he suffers from shrunken head syndrome. Bummer. And now we have to deal with Lio/Nova's squished heads, too. Grr.

The Club is only allotted to have one part remolded per mold that get's remolded.