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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sowndwave76 » Tue May 24, 2016 4:14 pm

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Cobotron wrote:So this seems to definitely be creating some mayhem. :lol:
October is strange. Quite a ways away. So I wonder if Hasbro made the May Mayhem sale at HTS to cover their butts, knowing Groove wasn't going to make it on time.

I was wondering why they haven't had a listing yet... Seems a little late in the day now doesn't it?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sowndwave76 » Tue May 24, 2016 4:41 pm

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Okay, I'm in need of some opinions--

Now that I have CW Groove ordered, I need to figure out which add-on set I want for Defensor.
I've been pumping the brakes on the PE black set hoping something slightly better would be released.
I am leaning towards the Dream Wave set because I personally like that it gives Defensor a fairly different look.
Small issue is I'm not a fan of the hands... The lower waist/crotch plates also look questionable... But I like the headsculpt and everything else. Even the parts for HotSpot.

Thoughts?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby no-one » Tue May 24, 2016 6:01 pm

Sowndwave76 wrote:Okay, I'm in need of some opinions--

Now that I have CW Groove ordered, I need to figure out which add-on set I want for Defensor.
I've been pumping the brakes on the PE black set hoping something slightly better would be released.
I am leaning towards the Dream Wave set because I personally like that it gives Defensor a fairly different look.
Small issue is I'm not a fan of the hands... The lower waist/crotch plates also look questionable... But I like the headsculpt and everything else. Even the parts for HotSpot.

Thoughts?
I haven't seen the Dream Wave stuff until now. Very interesting change in appearance. Let's do a little comparisons.

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The Dream Wave stuff seems to be for the United Warriors versions. They're very pointy and really change the look a lot. There is a lot of cool stuff included and I like the individual stuff more than the combiner stuff with Dream Wave. I think overall I like the PE stuff better, but they don't have a dedicated Defensor kit.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed May 25, 2016 1:19 am

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Personally I really don't like how the Dream Wave (is it really called that) set looks. The feet are okay, but the chest and head are extremely unnecessary, add nothing and hike the price up. The gun is alright and I like that the hands keep the guns, but they're waaaaay too skeletal. It's not something that fits the image of Defensor, honestly.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed May 25, 2016 2:52 am

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It also looks like the new head is tiny, but that may be down to the pose but it's not a set I would invest in, I find that the combiners look different enough as they are, especially if you scramble them :-)
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed May 25, 2016 3:07 am

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And now I'm seeing a smile in the crotchplate's red areas and two eyes in the chestplate's red areas. Kinda creepy; can't unsee, please send help
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed May 25, 2016 3:14 am

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Kurona wrote:And now I'm seeing a smile in the crotchplate's red areas and two eyes in the chestplate's red areas. Kinda creepy; can't unsee, please send help

What you talking about? I can't see anything....Oh wait, there it is, yup I see that now as well. Thanks a bunch Kurona..:-P
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed May 25, 2016 3:21 pm

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So playing around with Swindle a bit more, I think I've finally nailed my thoughts on him; on why I like despite him not feeling like a traditional Swindle.
He feels like a Swindle who at some point decided to dedicate himself to and prioritize being a Combaticon and a soldier rather than a salesman.
I mean, with his personality, what sort of thing would you expect from him? Slimmer angles and body proportions; a smooth texture; something elegant. Even just something like the endless Hound redecoes; those work because they tend not to be especially bulky. But CW? He's bulky, he's rough, he's certainly not elegant. He's dedicated to being part of the unit. And it's not like you can't get a slimmer profile out of CW - look at the Aerialbots, Groove, First Aid etc. Rook/Swindle/Hound/Nosecone just happens to be the bulkiest one out there.
Which is... kind of fun, not sure how I feel about it. On one hand, this should be the Swindle. This is revisiting what he was originally made for; he was specifically planned this time rather than just being another jeep repaint. This is kind of going back to his roots. So you'd expect something more traditional for him, wouldn't you? A profile similar to the Aerialbots. But instead you get this bulky, rough and tumble soldier. On the other hand... it can kinda work. He's the sort of guy you get the idea would do anything to get a good sale or to achieve his goals. So if something called for him to get into a bulkier body to combine into Bruticus for a while, he'd go for it without a second thought. Maybe. I dunno. I'm overthinking toys here :-P
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sowndwave76 » Wed May 25, 2016 7:14 pm

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Well, I'm still on the fence... I agree that the DW set doesn't exactly make Defensor look like his G1 self much at all.
I'd also agree that each combiner does look different enough...
I guess part of the consideration for this set is that I'm not a huge fan of how Defensor looks to begin with. He seems a little too 'blocky' to me.
A little convincing from Hellscream and being able to get Groove were just enough to change my mind on skipping getting the whole team past Hotspot and First Aid.

One thing I will say, is I don't mind the set having a smaller headsculpt; it proportionally makes everything else at least somewhat appear a little larger. That's one thing that kinda bugged me about the old G1 combiners-- the big 'ol melon-heads those guys had!
And the hands are a bit thin, but I don't think that bothers me too much.
The additions for Hotspot would make that mold look even more unique from Onslaught...
Jury's still out on this one.


Kurona--
I see exactly what you mean about Swindle, and I don't even have him yet
(although in the last couple days I've thought about getting the rest of the combaticons since I've ordered a Hasbro Onslaught).
I think the mold overall works for him quite well. Still don't like all the texture on the lower legs, but ehhh, still looks like a good version of him.
I like him looking a bit bulky... Vortex looks like the trim, sleek, quick member of the team to me.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sowndwave76 » Wed May 25, 2016 7:15 pm

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Carytheone--
Thanks for posting those comparison pics.!
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby no-one » Wed May 25, 2016 8:34 pm

Kurona wrote:And now I'm seeing a smile in the crotchplate's red areas and two eyes in the chestplate's red areas. Kinda creepy; can't unsee, please send help
HAHAHA! Guess who just got a new avatar! ;)^

I see what you are talking about with Swindle. I've felt that something didn't fit him, but was never able to put it into words. Too bulky and buff! He makes a great leg though!

Sowndwave76 wrote:Carytheone--
Thanks for posting those comparison pics.!
NP, you got me curious.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed May 25, 2016 9:46 pm

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Kurona wrote:So playing around with Swindle a bit more, I think I've finally nailed my thoughts on him; on why I like despite him not feeling like a traditional Swindle.
He feels like a Swindle who at some point decided to dedicate himself to and prioritize being a Combaticon and a soldier rather than a salesman.

Nothing wrong wth overthinking thats what these boards are for :)
I quite like this swindle. He is my favourite of this set by far. I just like the sculpt. I really love the dedication to the headsculpt too. Lightpiping is awesome but when you have dedicated plastic to bring out the eyes, thats just awesome. I like the pouches, I like the detail under the car which works great in robot mode to highlight he is made of car parts. I love the pouches and how he details line up when you insert his arms. I really love how the arm mode has its own unique transformation apart from the leg mode and how the weapon is placed differently to fully achieve each mode. As a toy for combiner wars its a true winner. And I actualy saw him as a traditional swindle from the get go. Thanks to you Kurona, I actually went back and watched those 2 combaticon heavy episodes. Swindle isnt the salesman there, he is the full on combaticon (if anyone is the smooth talker and calm one there its more Blastoff) and this toy showcases that beautifuly.

Oh another thing I picked up is how the combaticons are all made from older war vehicles which then get a massive upgrade when turned into transformers. And Blastoff was a jet. So while it will forever be lazy that we didnt get a shuttle, I find it cool that there is an actual story link to how Blastoff is connected to fighter jets. And I will say it again, his deco is sooooooooo good.
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Hasbro Posts Stop Motion Video Announcing Transformers Deluxe Groove Release

Postby william-james88 » Wed May 25, 2016 10:05 pm

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The rumoured May 24th came and while some online only retailers had Transformers Combiner Wars Groove, the bulk of retailers were no different from the day before, with no Combiner Wars Groove in stock. Hopefully this changes soon and we have some hope from a Facebook post by Hasbro saying that Groove is coming to retailers. No retailers are precised but the fact that this message is coming out now in such a public way, indicates that he could be as available as Quickslinger and Breakneck were last year (which was everywhere toys are sold online). They even include a stop motion video of Groove. At least it brings some comfort to have that extra publicity push past the rumoured street date, meaning that the release date might still be to come before the end of May.

Here is what the post says:

If it moves, it must be Groove. And in May Deluxe Groove is hitting retailers.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Thu May 26, 2016 6:52 am

In a somewhat related note, it looks like legends Groove dropped in price on HTS overnight (10% off I believe), likely trying to make room for deluxe Groove.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sowndwave76 » Thu May 26, 2016 3:39 pm

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Now I'm really tempted to buy the Hasbro Combaticon limbs!!!!

Yay or nay???????
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Thu May 26, 2016 4:03 pm

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Sowndwave76 wrote:Now I'm really tempted to buy the Hasbro Combaticon limbs!!!!

Yay or nay???????

Well from your other posts I can tell you're getting the UW set and you strive for cartoon accuracy over anything else.
I guess all I could really recommend for you in your case would be Vortex because the colours on UW Vortex look a little... weird in their placement, and Swindle because who doesn't want a standalone non-combined Swindle
Honestly I have all the CW Combaticons aside from Vortex - and even then I've got Alpha Bravo who is literally the same in every way aside from colours - and they make a wonderful little unit. The only real problem to me is Blast Off's head. It's also fun if you have a lot of spare weapons lying around and you can really militarize 'em; I gave Classic Optimus' smokestack gun to Swindle and it somehow works really well, and the smaller Leader Thundercracker guns to Blast Off. Then I put Blast Off's normal gun as Swindle's arm cannon because his usual weapon is way too dinky... I dunno, I just really find throwing a ton of weapons onto the Combaticons really fun.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu May 26, 2016 4:04 pm

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Sowndwave76 wrote:Now I'm really tempted to buy the Hasbro Combaticon limbs!!!!

Yay or nay???????


If you can get the full combiner (4 deluxes and a voyager) for 60$ I say yay. He is a fun combiner with a very diverse team. But since more are redecos including the laziest one of all, I dont recomend getting him if he costs you more than that.
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Confirmation of Wide Release Pushed to October for Transformers Combiner Wars Deluxe Groove

Postby william-james88 » Thu May 26, 2016 4:18 pm

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Have you got your Deluxe Groove yet? No? No worries because everyone who wants one for a fair price will get one ... by the end of 2016. Site Sponsor Ages 3 and Up got back to us when they received more up to date information:

Just got some information on this, the 1st release of this figure was basically only made available to Toys R Us and Hasbro everyone else was allocated ridiculously small numbers. We are going to do our best to get it in so if you want to get it from us keep a close eye on the site this week and we may have it in a small quantity. But good news is we are getting a ton of them in for the second release in October where there will be no shortage in quantity and it will be less expensive than this time around.

This wide October release was hinted at with preorder listings from Entertainment Earth but now we have a confirmation that it will be for every retailer carrying this figure. The comment on Toysrus is interesting, and it could mean that Toysrus will have a prioritized "early" release of this toy though there are only a handful of days left in May, so I would take that with a grain of salt. What is important here is the reassurance that everyone who wants a deluxe Groove will get one. Now the question collectors have to ask themselves is whether or not the current inflated prices are worth getting this figure now rather than later (rather than it being an assurance that they will get the figure at all). The good news is that those who do not want to pay inflated prices do not need to and Groove will indeed be as wide a release as Quickslinger and Breakneck were, only in October rather than in May.

Let us know how you feel about this on the boards and what you will be deciding as your course of action to acquire this figure. Which is more painful, the wait to get this figure at its regular price, or the possible regret of spending about 10$ more than the price it will eventually be available at?

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Thu May 26, 2016 4:28 pm

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Nice! Way to stick it to all the scalpers :michaelbay:

This is exceptional news, I will gladly wait until October to get one if I can't get one for a fair price before then, can only hope this is actually true, and doesn't end up screwing over us fans who are patient.

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sowndwave76 » Thu May 26, 2016 4:52 pm

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Kurona wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:Now I'm really tempted to buy the Hasbro Combaticon limbs!!!!

Yay or nay???????

Well from your other posts I can tell you're getting the UW set and you strive for cartoon accuracy over anything else.
I guess all I could really recommend for you in your case would be Vortex because the colours on UW Vortex look a little... weird in their placement, and Swindle because who doesn't want a standalone non-combined Swindle
Honestly I have all the CW Combaticons aside from Vortex - and even then I've got Alpha Bravo who is literally the same in every way aside from colours - and they make a wonderful little unit. The only real problem to me is Blast Off's head. It's also fun if you have a lot of spare weapons lying around and you can really militarize 'em; I gave Classic Optimus' smokestack gun to Swindle and it somehow works really well, and the smaller Leader Thundercracker guns to Blast Off. Then I put Blast Off's normal gun as Swindle's arm cannon because his usual weapon is way too dinky... I dunno, I just really find throwing a ton of weapons onto the Combaticons really fun.


I actually like the colors of UW Vortex. But I agree about Swindle.
Don't mind the Hasbro Blast Off even though a better headsculpt would've been nice...
I'm really only considering this because I've already ordered a Hasbro Onslaught from TFSource, and the price is right at HTS.

WJ88-- The price would total around $80 before shipping from HTS... If that May code still works, that won't be too much anyway.
With more than half of my collection, I have one opened, and one MISP figure...
Although I'm not really doing that with CW or UW... That's just too much $$$ plus I'm getting what I want as is.
I have both versions of Menasor... Which I'm okay with, and think it was the best option of any of them because of how awesome UW Motormaster is imo.

The only limb figure I don't really want the Hasbro version of is Brawl...
Does it make sense to only get 3 of the 4 though???
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu May 26, 2016 4:54 pm

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Bumblebee21 wrote:Maybe they will have blastoff by then to :BOT: :CON:

That crossed my mind.

Hellscream9999 wrote:can only hope this is actually true, and doesn't end up screwing over us fans who are patient.

So does this mean that hts is likely not going to get an early allotment?

Well, I wrote to them as an interested customer (which I am, I would buy from them if I could) so I dont see why they would lie to a potential customer. I will be waiting, unless I can pick it up at toysrus for the retail price.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Thu May 26, 2016 4:56 pm

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Sowndwave76 wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:Now I'm really tempted to buy the Hasbro Combaticon limbs!!!!

Yay or nay???????

Well from your other posts I can tell you're getting the UW set and you strive for cartoon accuracy over anything else.
I guess all I could really recommend for you in your case would be Vortex because the colours on UW Vortex look a little... weird in their placement, and Swindle because who doesn't want a standalone non-combined Swindle
Honestly I have all the CW Combaticons aside from Vortex - and even then I've got Alpha Bravo who is literally the same in every way aside from colours - and they make a wonderful little unit. The only real problem to me is Blast Off's head. It's also fun if you have a lot of spare weapons lying around and you can really militarize 'em; I gave Classic Optimus' smokestack gun to Swindle and it somehow works really well, and the smaller Leader Thundercracker guns to Blast Off. Then I put Blast Off's normal gun as Swindle's arm cannon because his usual weapon is way too dinky... I dunno, I just really find throwing a ton of weapons onto the Combaticons really fun.


I actually like the colors of UW Vortex. But I agree about Swindle.
Don't mind the Hasbro Blast Off even though a better headsculpt would've been nice...
I'm really only considering this because I've already ordered a Hasbro Onslaught from TFSource, and the price is right at HTS.

WJ88-- The price would total around $80 before shipping from HTS... If that May code still works, that won't be too much anyway.
With more than half of my collection, I have one opened, and one MISP figure...
Although I'm not really doing that with CW or UW... That's just too much $$$ plus I'm getting what I want as is.
I have both versions of Menasor... Which I'm okay with, and think it was the best option of any of them because of how awesome UW Motormaster is imo.

The only limb figure I don't really want the Hasbro version of is Brawl...
Does it make sense to only get 3 of the 4 though???

A lot of the later version brawls have no issues, he ended up being my favorite limb of the set, my swindle is fraught with miss-measurements, so he'll forever be a disappointment to me, and Onslaught is a joy to transform - I have no idea why :DANCE:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Thu May 26, 2016 4:58 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:can only hope this is actually true, and doesn't end up screwing over us fans who are patient.

So does this mean that hts is likely not going to get an early allotment?

Well, I wrote to them as an interested customer (which I am, I would buy from them if I could) so I dont see why they would lie to a potential customer. I will be waiting, unless I can pick it up at toysrus for the retail price.

Just airing my concerns, I doubt its a lie, but something could always happen, but if they've produced that many figures, they'll have to be sold somewhere at some point :DANCE:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu May 26, 2016 4:58 pm

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The only limb figure I don't really want the Hasbro version of is Brawl...
Does it make sense to only get 3 of the 4 though???

Does it makes sense for us grown ups to have more toys than most kids out there?
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