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[william-james88]

That sale was great. I was able to snatch Sky Lynx for 15$ plus taxes. After I opened the box I realised I was glad I had bought it so cheap. I really like this character but I was a little let down with it in hand. I will use it in my IDW display and keep using my Takara reissue for my classic display.

Same here. He has a great torso mode though, and I thought that was worth 15$ so I didnt mind that.

But yeah, with no exageration this is one of the few updates which is not as good as the G1 toy. Fort Max seems to be that way as well, along with Powermaster Prime (unless they do get godbomber to combine with him). Are there any other TFs whos updates arent as good as the originals? I cant think of too many aside from cheetor

Oh wait, what about Thunderwing and Perceptor?

I'm still a fan of all of the car Autobots from the Universe 2.0, Generations, and RtS lines.
I just don't think you can beat those versions of the Datsun bros, Sideswipe, Sunstreaker, and even Kup and Warpath.
Actually, Classics Bee and Cliffjumper are tough to beat as well.

I meant updates to the G1 toys.

[Kurona]

Are there any other TFs whos updates arent as good as the originals? I cant think of too many aside from cheetor

Oh wait, what about Thunderwing and Perceptor?

Every Soundwave/Blaster update?
(I put a question mark because I'm mulling it over as I type.)

FOC Soundwave/Blaster. Cybertron Soundwave also ain't bad, and neither is Music Label



Also, what's wrong with RTS Perceptor?

[Cobotron]

Are there any other TFs whos updates arent as good as the originals? I cant think of too many aside from cheetor

Oh wait, what about Thunderwing and Perceptor?

Every Soundwave/Blaster update?
(I put a question mark because I'm mulling it over as I type.)

FOC Soundwave/Blaster. Cybertron Soundwave also ain't bad, and neither is Music Label

I like all those toys just fine, they just don't quite hit the mark on the cassette gimmick. The new TR versions feel like they are handling the gimmick much better though. Can't wait to find out.

[Sowndwave76]

That sale was great. I was able to snatch Sky Lynx for 15$ plus taxes. After I opened the box I realised I was glad I had bought it so cheap. I really like this character but I was a little let down with it in hand. I will use it in my IDW display and keep using my Takara reissue for my classic display.

Same here. He has a great torso mode though, and I thought that was worth 15$ so I didnt mind that.

But yeah, with no exageration this is one of the few updates which is not as good as the G1 toy. Fort Max seems to be that way as well, along with Powermaster Prime (unless they do get godbomber to combine with him). Are there any other TFs whos updates arent as good as the originals? I cant think of too many aside from cheetor

Oh wait, what about Thunderwing and Perceptor?

I'm still a fan of all of the car Autobots from the Universe 2.0, Generations, and RtS lines.
I just don't think you can beat those versions of the Datsun bros, Sideswipe, Sunstreaker, and even Kup and Warpath.
Actually, Classics Bee and Cliffjumper are tough to beat as well.

I meant updates to the G1 toys.

I thought you were comparing the CW Skylynx to the original, so I didn't see a difference in comparing updated figures from other lines to the originals...
???

[william-james88]

I thought you were comparing the CW Skylynx to the original, so I didn't see a difference in comparing updated figures from other lines to the originals...
???

Yeah, I was comparing updates to originals in saying how they were inferior. Meaning that the G1 version is still the best. I was asking which other G1 toys were still unbeaten by their updates. Maybe we got our wires crossed, but its all good.

Also, what's wrong with RTS Perceptor?

Nothing wrong, but I dont find that he outdoes the G1 version, which has a lot more playability and a working microscope.

Every Soundwave/Blaster update?
(I put a question mark because I'm mulling it over as I type.)

Every update to Soundwave is not as good as G1? So like, including this guy:


Transformers Masterpiece Soundwave Gallery

[Hellscream9999]

At the local ToysRUs, CW deluxe figures are $19.99...

Count yourself lucky, went to mine the other day and theirs are up to $23

[Cobotron]

Every Soundwave/Blaster update?
(I put a question mark because I'm mulling it over as I type.)

Every update to Soundwave is not as good as G1? So like, including this guy:

*pic of MP Soundwave*

You do realize I was waiting for you to pull that question out of your little hat, Billy m'boy.

I don't consider that version an update. To me update implies a new stylistic or artistic take on an older version. MP SW is more of a re-imagineering of the original toy. Looks just like him. Transforms just like him. Only better.

The main problem with the Jam Box bots is that the "cassette" is such an antiquated technology, that it's lost all relevance.

[Hellscream9999]

Every Soundwave/Blaster update?
(I put a question mark because I'm mulling it over as I type.)

Every update to Soundwave is not as good as G1? So like, including this guy:

*pic of MP Soundwave*

You do realize I was waiting for you to pull that question out of your little hat, Billy m'boy.

I don't consider that version an update. To me update implies a new stylistic or artistic take on an older version. MP SW is more of a re-imagineering of the original toy. Looks just like him. Transforms just like him. Only better.

The main problem with the Jam Box bots is that the "cassette" is such an antiquated technology, that it's lost all relevance.

Still, those mp cassetticons look like quite the treat

[william-james88]

I don't consider that version an update. To me update implies a new stylistic or artistic take on an older version. MP SW is more of a re-imagineering of the original toy. Looks just like him. Transforms just like him. Only better.

Interesting, but then does that mean that none of the upcoming headmasters are updates since they all transform and look the same way as G1?

And yes I do realize that, but I wasnt going to let that lure get away

[Cobotron]

Still, those mp cassetticons look like quite the treat

Oh, indeed they are!

Interesting, but then does that mean that none of the upcoming headmasters are updates since they all transform and look the same way as G1?

No. I find the designs of the TR toys to be very stylistically/artistically different than their G1 predecessors.

And yes I do realize that, but I wasnt going to let that lure get away

Would that be considered friendly trolling?

[william-james88]

Interesting, but then does that mean that none of the upcoming headmasters are updates since they all transform and look the same way as G1?

No. I find the designs of the TR toys to be very stylistically/artistically different than their G1 predecessors.

So these look less like their G1 Counterparts



Than this toy?



Is that your final answer or do you want to ask the audience?

PS: Friendly trolling right back at you

[MaverickPrime]

It would be AWESOME if they re-released Quickslinger and Break-Neck as well, for the US there may have been lots available to buy, but most other countries didn't get them at all, only for extreme prices and I would've really liked to get both of them as well :/
I still think the best move would be a 4-pack with Quickslinger, Break-neck, Big Groove and Space Mission Blast Off.

[Cobotron]

Will's question

To me, yes.
I can see that the G1 HM and the TR HM were drawn by different artists. They are made to be similar, but different design choices were made. TR repeats shapes in an effort to evoke, and/or homage the G1.
Now, of course, we know that MP SW was drawn by a different artist, but that lines soul purpose is to be as close to the toy/cartoon model as possible. MP SW repeats shapes to replicate the G1.

To my eye, anyway.

[ZeroWolf]

An interesting discussion on updates v redos here (I'd say redo in the sense that the masterpiece line is just completely redoing G1 except much much better)

However, sorry cobs but I'm going to have to side with will here on the titans returns stuff, as I wouldn't call them updates just the original designs redone for this era. An update would be more taking a character and bringing their trait into the 21st century, it's different but you can still tell who it is by looking at it.

Most of the times, colour schemes play heavily into this as well.

[Bumblebee21]

It would be AWESOME if they re-released Quickslinger and Break-Neck as well, for the US there may have been lots available to buy, but most other countries didn't get them at all, only for extreme prices and I would've really liked to get both of them as well :/
I still think the best move would be a 4-pack with Quickslinger, Break-neck, Big Groove and Space Mission Blast Off.

that would he nice because I never got brake-neck and I want UW Blastoff

[Insurgent]

And where did you get those hands from? They look a lot better than the PE ones.

That's why I bought them, I ordered them about 9 months ago here he's an extremely small operation, and I think Masterforce is handling UK shipments. They came on the production sprues, so you have to completely assemble them, but they're nice and solid - and actually look nice, unlike the dumb skeleton hands from PE

Thanks man! I'll check those out!

[no-one]

Pssst... the Groovinator is back up on Amazon!

[TF-fan kev777]

Just came available on Amazon again at $16.99. Managed to get 1. With Prime/free shipping (thanks wifey!) Estimated delivery June 2.

[mazingaspidey]

Groove is up for $16.99 on Amazon with free Prime shipping!

http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Gene ... rds=groove

[mazingaspidey]

In stock at Amazon.com for $16.99 with free Prime shipping!

http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Gene ... rds=groove

[william-james88]

and gone

[steals_your_goats]

Snagged one! Thanks for the heads up guys

[Kurona]

Gods almighty; Groove disappears faster from shelves faster than bots called Mudflap can fill 'em.

[william-james88]

Gods almighty; Groove disappears faster from shelves faster than bots called Mudflap can fill 'em.

Its a very limited quantity, as we now know. so they only put up a dozen at a time, it seems. But thanks everyone for letting us all know.

[Mr Skram]

Damnnn. I was checking every morning but couldn't today since I was at my home inspection.