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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu May 26, 2016 7:12 pm

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Sowndwave76 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Ultra Mad wrote:That sale was great. I was able to snatch Sky Lynx for 15$ plus taxes. After I opened the box I realised I was glad I had bought it so cheap. I really like this character but I was a little let down with it in hand. I will use it in my IDW display and keep using my Takara reissue for my classic display.

Same here. He has a great torso mode though, and I thought that was worth 15$ so I didnt mind that.

But yeah, with no exageration this is one of the few updates which is not as good as the G1 toy. Fort Max seems to be that way as well, along with Powermaster Prime (unless they do get godbomber to combine with him). Are there any other TFs whos updates arent as good as the originals? I cant think of too many aside from cheetor :-?

Oh wait, what about Thunderwing and Perceptor?


I'm still a fan of all of the car Autobots from the Universe 2.0, Generations, and RtS lines.
I just don't think you can beat those versions of the Datsun bros, Sideswipe, Sunstreaker, and even Kup and Warpath.
Actually, Classics Bee and Cliffjumper are tough to beat as well.

I meant updates to the G1 toys.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Thu May 26, 2016 7:15 pm

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william-james88 wrote: Are there any other TFs whos updates arent as good as the originals? I cant think of too many aside from cheetor :-?

Oh wait, what about Thunderwing and Perceptor?
Every Soundwave/Blaster update?
(I put a question mark because I'm mulling it over as I type.)

FOC Soundwave/Blaster. Cybertron Soundwave also ain't bad, and neither is Music Label



Also, what's wrong with RTS Perceptor?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Thu May 26, 2016 7:18 pm

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Kurona wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
william-james88 wrote: Are there any other TFs whos updates arent as good as the originals? I cant think of too many aside from cheetor :-?

Oh wait, what about Thunderwing and Perceptor?
Every Soundwave/Blaster update?
(I put a question mark because I'm mulling it over as I type.)

FOC Soundwave/Blaster. Cybertron Soundwave also ain't bad, and neither is Music Label
I like all those toys just fine, they just don't quite hit the mark on the cassette gimmick. The new TR versions feel like they are handling the gimmick much better though. Can't wait to find out. :D
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sowndwave76 » Thu May 26, 2016 7:23 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Ultra Mad wrote:That sale was great. I was able to snatch Sky Lynx for 15$ plus taxes. After I opened the box I realised I was glad I had bought it so cheap. I really like this character but I was a little let down with it in hand. I will use it in my IDW display and keep using my Takara reissue for my classic display.

Same here. He has a great torso mode though, and I thought that was worth 15$ so I didnt mind that.

But yeah, with no exageration this is one of the few updates which is not as good as the G1 toy. Fort Max seems to be that way as well, along with Powermaster Prime (unless they do get godbomber to combine with him). Are there any other TFs whos updates arent as good as the originals? I cant think of too many aside from cheetor :-?

Oh wait, what about Thunderwing and Perceptor?


I'm still a fan of all of the car Autobots from the Universe 2.0, Generations, and RtS lines.
I just don't think you can beat those versions of the Datsun bros, Sideswipe, Sunstreaker, and even Kup and Warpath.
Actually, Classics Bee and Cliffjumper are tough to beat as well.

I meant updates to the G1 toys.


I thought you were comparing the CW Skylynx to the original, so I didn't see a difference in comparing updated figures from other lines to the originals...
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu May 26, 2016 7:31 pm

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Sowndwave76 wrote:I thought you were comparing the CW Skylynx to the original, so I didn't see a difference in comparing updated figures from other lines to the originals...
???

Yeah, I was comparing updates to originals in saying how they were inferior. Meaning that the G1 version is still the best. I was asking which other G1 toys were still unbeaten by their updates. Maybe we got our wires crossed, but its all good.

Kurona wrote:Also, what's wrong with RTS Perceptor?

Nothing wrong, but I dont find that he outdoes the G1 version, which has a lot more playability and a working microscope.

Cobotron wrote:Every Soundwave/Blaster update?
(I put a question mark because I'm mulling it over as I type.)


Every update to Soundwave is not as good as G1? So like, including this guy:

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Thu May 26, 2016 7:34 pm

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Sowndwave76 wrote:At the local ToysRUs, CW deluxe figures are $19.99... :BANG_HEAD:

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Thu May 26, 2016 7:46 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Every Soundwave/Blaster update?
(I put a question mark because I'm mulling it over as I type.)


Every update to Soundwave is not as good as G1? So like, including this guy:

*pic of MP Soundwave*


You do realize I was waiting for you to pull that question out of your little hat, Billy m'boy. :lol:

I don't consider that version an update. To me update implies a new stylistic or artistic take on an older version. MP SW is more of a re-imagineering of the original toy. Looks just like him. Transforms just like him. Only better.

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Thu May 26, 2016 7:56 pm

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Cobotron wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Every Soundwave/Blaster update?
(I put a question mark because I'm mulling it over as I type.)


Every update to Soundwave is not as good as G1? So like, including this guy:

*pic of MP Soundwave*


You do realize I was waiting for you to pull that question out of your little hat, Billy m'boy. :lol:

I don't consider that version an update. To me update implies a new stylistic or artistic take on an older version. MP SW is more of a re-imagineering of the original toy. Looks just like him. Transforms just like him. Only better.

The main problem with the Jam Box bots is that the "cassette" is such an antiquated technology, that it's lost all relevance.

Still, those mp cassetticons look like quite the treat ;)
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu May 26, 2016 8:07 pm

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I don't consider that version an update. To me update implies a new stylistic or artistic take on an older version. MP SW is more of a re-imagineering of the original toy. Looks just like him. Transforms just like him. Only better.

Interesting, but then does that mean that none of the upcoming headmasters are updates since they all transform and look the same way as G1?

And yes I do realize that, but I wasnt going to let that lure get away ;)
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Thu May 26, 2016 8:27 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:Still, those mp cassetticons look like quite the treat ;)
Oh, indeed they are!

william-james88 wrote:Interesting, but then does that mean that none of the upcoming headmasters are updates since they all transform and look the same way as G1?
No. I find the designs of the TR toys to be very stylistically/artistically different than their G1 predecessors.

And yes I do realize that, but I wasnt going to let that lure get away ;)
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu May 26, 2016 9:00 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Interesting, but then does that mean that none of the upcoming headmasters are updates since they all transform and look the same way as G1?
No. I find the designs of the TR toys to be very stylistically/artistically different than their G1 predecessors.

So these look less like their G1 Counterparts

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Than this toy?

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Is that your final answer or do you want to ask the audience?

PS: Friendly trolling right back at you ;)
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby MaverickPrime » Thu May 26, 2016 9:45 pm

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It would be AWESOME if they re-released Quickslinger and Break-Neck as well, for the US there may have been lots available to buy, but most other countries didn't get them at all, only for extreme prices and I would've really liked to get both of them as well :/
I still think the best move would be a 4-pack with Quickslinger, Break-neck, Big Groove and Space Mission Blast Off.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Thu May 26, 2016 9:57 pm

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Billy JIM wrote:Will's question


To me, yes.
I can see that the G1 HM and the TR HM were drawn by different artists. They are made to be similar, but different design choices were made. TR repeats shapes in an effort to evoke, and/or homage the G1.
Now, of course, we know that MP SW was drawn by a different artist, but that lines soul purpose is to be as close to the toy/cartoon model as possible. MP SW repeats shapes to replicate the G1.

To my eye, anyway.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri May 27, 2016 1:27 am

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An interesting discussion on updates v redos here (I'd say redo in the sense that the masterpiece line is just completely redoing G1 except much much better)

However, sorry cobs but I'm going to have to side with will here on the titans returns stuff, as I wouldn't call them updates just the original designs redone for this era. An update would be more taking a character and bringing their trait into the 21st century, it's different but you can still tell who it is by looking at it.

Most of the times, colour schemes play heavily into this as well.
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Postby Bumblebee21 » Fri May 27, 2016 4:41 am

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MaverickPrime wrote:It would be AWESOME if they re-released Quickslinger and Break-Neck as well, for the US there may have been lots available to buy, but most other countries didn't get them at all, only for extreme prices and I would've really liked to get both of them as well :/
I still think the best move would be a 4-pack with Quickslinger, Break-neck, Big Groove and Space Mission Blast Off.
that would he nice because I never got brake-neck and I want UW Blastoff
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Insurgent » Fri May 27, 2016 5:54 am

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Insurgent wrote:And where did you get those hands from? They look a lot better than the PE ones.

That's why I bought them, I ordered them about 9 months ago here he's an extremely small operation, and I think Masterforce is handling UK shipments. They came on the production sprues, so you have to completely assemble them, but they're nice and solid - and actually look nice, unlike the dumb skeleton hands from PE #-o



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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby no-one » Fri May 27, 2016 8:32 am

Pssst... the Groovinator is back up on Amazon!
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Fri May 27, 2016 8:34 am

Just came available on Amazon again at $16.99. Managed to get 1. With Prime/free shipping (thanks wifey!) Estimated delivery June 2.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby mazingaspidey » Fri May 27, 2016 8:55 am

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Groove is up for $16.99 on Amazon with free Prime shipping!

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Postby mazingaspidey » Fri May 27, 2016 8:56 am

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In stock at Amazon.com for $16.99 with free Prime shipping!

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Postby william-james88 » Fri May 27, 2016 9:22 am

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Postby steals_your_goats » Fri May 27, 2016 9:41 am

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Fri May 27, 2016 9:46 am

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Gods almighty; Groove disappears faster from shelves faster than bots called Mudflap can fill 'em.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri May 27, 2016 9:49 am

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Kurona wrote:Gods almighty; Groove disappears faster from shelves faster than bots called Mudflap can fill 'em.

Its a very limited quantity, as we now know. so they only put up a dozen at a time, it seems. But thanks everyone for letting us all know.
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