carytheone wrote:I don't think that Quickslinger or Breck-neck were ever part of the game plan for Hasbro and they just attempted to sate fans. Big Groove and jet Blast Off seem to support this.
Where Groove was Tak's design, jet Blast Off may have just been a change of plans using the originally intended mold and colors. That figure may have been intended to be a new character in homaged colors with a new alt mode just like the other teams.
Was there any official word from Hasbro or just our fan speculation?
carytheone wrote:I don't think that Quickslinger or Breck-neck were ever part of the game plan for Hasbro and they just attempted to sate fans. Big Groove and jet Blast Off seem to support this.
Where Groove was Tak's design, jet Blast Off may have just been a change of plans using the originally intended mold and colors. That figure may have been intended to be a new character in homaged colors with a new alt mode just like the other teams.
Was there any official word from Hasbro or just our fan speculation?
That is interesting and good to know.william-james88 & Kurona wrote:Some helpful and interesting things
RAR wrote:Were in retrospect Alpha Bravo, Off Road and Rook a good idea or not ?
Could the idea have worked better if handled differently and should they have not chickened out doing the same thing with Bruticus or Computron too ?
Kurona wrote:I kind of want Shuttle Blast Off myself... but only if it got a release in the same shades of colour Jet Blast Off is in. The ones Takara have for him look just awful.
And which might have seen use as a new Technobot named Ironclad before it was decided to use the Deluxe Groove mold instead of the Legends class Groove mold for Hasbro's Afterburner/Afterbreaker.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Rook also was planned from the start, but possibly as someone else. We have reason to suspect his alternate head mold is actually Brawl, which was nixed when he got his own mold (no alternate head).
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:And which might have seen use as a new Technobot named Ironclad before it was decided to use the Deluxe Groove mold instead of the Legends class Groove mold for Hasbro's Afterburner/Afterbreaker.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Rook also was planned from the start, but possibly as someone else. We have reason to suspect his alternate head mold is actually Brawl, which was nixed when he got his own mold (no alternate head).
Sabrblade wrote:And which might have seen use as a new Technobot named Ironclad before it was decided to use the Deluxe Groove mold instead of the Legends class Groove mold for Hasbro's Afterburner/Afterbreaker.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Rook also was planned from the start, but possibly as someone else. We have reason to suspect his alternate head mold is actually Brawl, which was nixed when he got his own mold (no alternate head).
In relation to this, the final TFSS 5.0 mystery figure is said to be a CW Deluxe mold with a headsculpt that Hasbro has not yet used (and which has probably not already been released by Fun Pub).JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:For those curious, here's a recap of the speculated, unknown and unused heads:
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:And which might have seen use as a new Technobot named Ironclad before it was decided to use the Deluxe Groove mold instead of the Legends class Groove mold for Hasbro's Afterburner/Afterbreaker.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Rook also was planned from the start, but possibly as someone else. We have reason to suspect his alternate head mold is actually Brawl, which was nixed when he got his own mold (no alternate head).
Where do you get the Ironclad idea from? Hasbro said there were no plans for the technobots aside from Scattershot originally.
Right as rain!D-Maximus_Prime wrote:william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:And which might have seen use as a new Technobot named Ironclad before it was decided to use the Deluxe Groove mold instead of the Legends class Groove mold for Hasbro's Afterburner/Afterbreaker.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Rook also was planned from the start, but possibly as someone else. We have reason to suspect his alternate head mold is actually Brawl, which was nixed when he got his own mold (no alternate head).
Where do you get the Ironclad idea from? Hasbro said there were no plans for the technobots aside from Scattershot originally.
the club Bluestreak story. It was really good. Brought up some ideas for several different combiners that would have seen the entirely of the original Ark crew combine in some form. And Bluestreak ended up in a body design meant for Lightsteed (yeah, they actually noted that the guy drawing up the plans was terrible at spelling), cause the way this continuity worked, Computron was supposed to form with Ironclad as the right arm and an "energy efficient" Afterbreaker combining with the limb. Sound familiar? The story ended up taking the CW round with Scrounge and Boltax/Cybaxx, but it also introduced the "replacement members" into each team as well
Impactor pulled a small crystal out of one of the storage canisters on his shoulders. He plugged it into a port on the Teklaan computer console. “This universe... I guess it still needs the Wreckers. And now the Wreckers need you. These are blueprints created by one of our former members. Ironclad was an architectural and engineering genius. He created these plans and submitted them to the Technobots themselves, who took them with great enthusiasm. They at one time planned to elect him as their new rookie – just like the Protectobots did with Rook and… The Aerialbots did with Alpha Bravo.”
Bluestreak held back his questions as Impactor took a moment. He had heard rumors of the Combiner
teams’ expansions, but didn’t know that they had gone far enough to actually accept candidates as potential replacements. It made a certain amount of sense to him though, given his own previous experience with the operation. Bluestreak had tried to stay expressionless during this lull but apparently failed to do so; Impactor raised his hand as a show that he was alright. Then the purple Autobot continued, “He had upgrades worked out for the entire team, with himself and a more energy-efficient Afterburner combining together to become an arm. That design was rejected, however the Technobots used the idea to create their own special arm instead – one that merged Strafe with a Minibot named Scrounge. And Scrounge with Cybaxx. Yup. We found him; he had uplinked his consciousness to the Underbase right as Megatron tore apart his body. That’s why we needed to manipulate Starscream to get us close to the database. With Cybaxx recovered, the Technobots added his vast knowledge to Computron’s own intelligence, hoping that intellect could defeat the Mayhem Attack Squad. Of course – ”
“Uh-huh.” Bluestreak was beginning to wonder if this was how the other Autobots felt when he was talking. “That sure is a lot of…history.”
“The point of it is,” Impactor emphasized his words with clicks as he scrolled through the information held on the crystal, “this has all of Ironclad’s designs. It’s where I got my new form from - I adopted the one he had designed for himself. I of course dropped his red faceplate, the crown, and swapped the mustard tan and gray for purple and yellow. There’s also this…”
Impactor pulled up a three-dimensional wire frame of a robot mode. He jabbed at the hologram and it converted into a high-speed pursuit vehicle.
“This was Lightsteed’s upgrade.”
Bluestreak scrunched his nose. “I thought it was ‘Lightspeed’?”
“Hmmm.” Impactor leaned in and shrugged. “Schematics say ‘Lightsteed’. Ironclad never was good with names though. Something he apparently had in common with you.”
Bluestreak stuck his tongue out briefly, then tapped the hologram again and the vehicle stood on its rear end with a foot then attached at the bottom. “Ah. There’s four of you. I get it. I got it. When you say ‘join’ you really mean join. Just like Ratchet, Hoist, Sideswipe and Inferno wanted me to do when Optimus went missing.”
Impactor inferred from Bluestreak’s tone that the other Autobot wasn’t thrilled by the idea of becoming a Combiner. He had always wondered why Project: Firestormer was never completed. Of course, Impactor couldn’t blame Bluestreak for not wanting to be part of such a thing; the Wrecker commander still had his ownreservations
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
william-james88 wrote:I dont get it, why would a club story be proof that Hasbro had a toy planned out?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
RAR wrote:So it looks like if Hasbro ever take up the idea I keep muting of Vs packs then they can fill them up with some interesting ideas and also bring in the bonus team member idea fully - which to be fair is highly desirable for Deathzarus's team. what with a Black swindle & another jet repaint being super obvious to do there. No to mention how nice it would be to have Takara's New moulds. I'd not mind at all if they added additional team members to the Technobots - though I guess you have that already if you mix the 2 sets up.
Kurona wrote: but Combiner Wars is long over, dude. I really wouldn't go holding your breath for even more repaints.
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