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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:48 am

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Sabrblade wrote:And it's more like Regeneration One is the splinter timeline since it came second and ended with Rodimus Prime cutting itself off from all other timelines and universes to keep the world of RG1 isolated and split off from all other worlds.
I have to disagree. ReGeneration One kept more of the details of the original series, as well as picked up the story from the end of Marvel issue #80.

G2 pretty much ignored what happened in G1 but if you want to get the proper start, you have to read the 4-issue crossover with G.I. Joe that explains why Megatron is now a green tank.

As for Jhiaxus himself, his G2 version was much, much better and entertaining. He was more vicious and uninhibited in G2, whereas in ReGeneration One he was just another villain, easily dispatched after a few issues. He pretty much drove the story in G2, and everything the other Transformers did was a reaction to his actions.

And he completely wiped San Francisco, San Jose and Oakland off the face of the planet with 1 shot from his spaceship, just to show Prime he wasn't **** around.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:13 am

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Sabrblade wrote:And it's more like Regeneration One is the splinter timeline since it came second and ended with Rodimus Prime cutting itself off from all other timelines and universes to keep the world of RG1 isolated and split off from all other worlds.
I have to disagree. ReGeneration One kept more of the details of the original series, as well as picked up the story from the end of Marvel issue #80.

G2 pretty much ignored what happened in G1 but if you want to get the proper start, you have to read the 4-issue crossover with G.I. Joe that explains why Megatron is now a green tank.
I wouldn't quite call "20 years into the future after issue #80" picking it up right where it left off.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Immortal Starscream » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:19 am

LOL this is becoming a motu thread it seems. I liked revelations. first season more then the second imho. 200x and the new cgi show are vastly superior shows though. The thing about motu-r is that it lines up with what the four horsemen originally pitched for what they wanted the 200x to be. some changes sure, like the whole death and coming back thing, and man-at-arms didn't build him a replacement power sword.

now onto bulkhead. While I stand by my stance that this toy feels wrong for bulkhead (ball not box!) the in hand pics do look a lot better then the promo images. I think though, like some others have said, that I will probably wait to see what the inevitable repaint/remold will be instead of picking up this guy.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby sol magnus » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:53 am

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william-james88 wrote:Luckily, that second half did turn things around and as a whole, that series does focus on He-Man. I, personally, no longer feel annoyed by it. And it is a much better show than any of the Netflix WFC trilogy.


We can agree to disagree. I found many aspects of the second part even more offensive than the first. The makers of WFC seemed to at least have genuinely wanted to tell a good story, but we're limited by Hasbro in budget, which only allowed for limited acting and writing talent, as well as animation. MOTU Revelation was a much bigger budget, and KS used it to smear feces on everything that was MOTU.

WFC isn't great by any means, but I don't have a visceral reaction to it, as I do for MOTU R, which is sad. MOTU 2002 is still the best and I'm glad I can go back and watch it whenever I want.


I guess we have to on this one. Masters of the Universe Revelation wasn't the best thing ever, but I don't feel like it was the worst thing ever. I suppose this might be because MOTU wasn't my favorite thing as a kid, nor was it my least favorite thing. It's (beside the first two years, cuz I'm that old) always been =/=. Like everything else from the 80s, I know more about it than the average cat, but I don't see where he 'smeared feces' on it - for one thing, a lot of the concepts used came much later (some in the 2000s). Others were a spin on something old or not very much tread, which yes - maybe that's subject to some scrutiny in how it was used, but it's all just a new telling that kind of references the old show.

To me, it's like everything else - It can't stay the same, and it can't belong to us (from the OG days) forever, because we're getting older and they want to keep selling stuff, so anything that keeps it going is good - even if you or I don't love the direction. It's better than the alternative.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Dr. Caelus » Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:41 am

sol magnus wrote:I guess we have to on this one. Masters of the Universe Revelation wasn't the best thing ever, but I don't feel like it was the worst thing ever. I suppose this might be because MOTU wasn't my favorite thing as a kid, nor was it my least favorite thing.


Age frame might matter. I was literally watching He-Man the day I was born, and it was an enormous part of my early childhood from there on. I didn't have the full room of MOTU toys because it was split with Starcom and M.A.S.K., but I had a fair bit (including She-ra figures inherited from my sister) and a slew of those children's books. I even dug one out for a drama class assignment in high school. :lol:

By comparison, I had relatively few Transformers as a child because they were really hard to get (until micromasters showed up), and the only way to watch the cartoon (until G2) was renting tapes from the grocery store.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby primalxconvoy » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:10 am

Dr. Caelus wrote:
sol magnus wrote:I guess we have to on this one. Masters of the Universe Revelation wasn't the best thing ever, but I don't feel like it was the worst thing ever. I suppose this might be because MOTU wasn't my favorite thing as a kid, nor was it my least favorite thing.


Age frame might matter. I was literally watching He-Man the day I was born, and it was an enormous part of my early childhood from there on. I didn't have the full room of MOTU toys because it was split with Starcom and M.A.S.K., but I had a fair bit (including She-ra figures inherited from my sister) and a slew of those children's books. I even dug one out for a drama class assignment in high school. :lol:

By comparison, I had relatively few Transformers as a child because they were really hard to get (until micromasters showed up), and the only way to watch the cartoon (until G2) was renting tapes from the grocery store.


There's a great place to discuss MOTU, especially the cartoon, at the Seibertron link below:

- kevin-smith-s-masters-of-the-universe-on-netflix-t116990s25.php


Could a mod move the comments about MOTU above to the relevant link please, so this thread can get back on topic?

Now, back to Bulkhead...


I'm really happy about the following things:

- He's out, legally, in France and someone else, other than the usual pack of tealeaves, has gotten a video out first. I think I'll even subscribe to them.

- He doesn't seem as bad as I thought he would be when I saw the original pics of him.

- Minicon ports! I love them, but why? Are they really for an upcoming Unicron trilogy remold? I heard something about Energon Optimus Prime, or something?
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:28 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:And it's more like Regeneration One is the splinter timeline since it came second and ended with Rodimus Prime cutting itself off from all other timelines and universes to keep the world of RG1 isolated and split off from all other worlds.
I have to disagree. ReGeneration One kept more of the details of the original series, as well as picked up the story from the end of Marvel issue #80.

G2 pretty much ignored what happened in G1 but if you want to get the proper start, you have to read the 4-issue crossover with G.I. Joe that explains why Megatron is now a green tank.
I wouldn't quite call "20 years into the future after issue #80" picking it up right where it left off.
I didn't write "right where it left off." ReGeneration One picked up the story from the end of the Marvel run where the failed leader known as Optimus Prime made yet another disastrous decision to return to Cybertron while leaving a lot of deactivated Transformers and Cybertronian technology behind, allowing Megatron to yet again wreak havoc on Earth.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:38 am

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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:44 am

primalxconvoy wrote:- He's out, legally, in France and someone else, other than the usual pack of tealeaves, has gotten a video out first. I think I'll even subscribe to them.


Okay so I really don't care about your obsession with/crusade against PvP and others, but I have to know, what the hell is the origin of "tealeaf"? Is it an insult or derogatory term over in Japan that I'm just not familiar with? Google was no help there.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby primalxconvoy » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:50 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:


Could a mod move the comments about MOTU above to the relevant link please, so this thread can get back on topic?



There is no mods here.
Seriously.


Admins, then. I'm sure you've "got the power" to move MOTU stuff to Eternia, right?
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:00 am

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primalxconvoy wrote:- He's out, legally, in France and someone else, other than the usual pack of tealeaves, has gotten a video out first. I think I'll even subscribe to them.


Okay so I really don't care about your obsession with/crusade against PvP and others, but I have to know, what the hell is the origin of "tealeaf"? Is it an insult or derogatory term over in Japan that I'm just not familiar with? Google was no help there.

British actually ;)
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:07 am

ZeroWolf wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:- He's out, legally, in France and someone else, other than the usual pack of tealeaves, has gotten a video out first. I think I'll even subscribe to them.


Okay so I really don't care about your obsession with/crusade against PvP and others, but I have to know, what the hell is the origin of "tealeaf"? Is it an insult or derogatory term over in Japan that I'm just not familiar with? Google was no help there.

British actually ;)


Thanks, and makes sense for where PvP is located. I'd never heard it before. I work for a global company with customers all over the world, so I definitely like to be aware of slang terms so I can make sure to avoid getting myself into a mess.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby blackeyedprime » Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:56 am

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primalxconvoy wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:


Could a mod move the comments about MOTU above to the relevant link please, so this thread can get back on topic?



There is no mods here.
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Admins, then. I'm sure you've "got the power" to move MOTU stuff to Eternia, right?


They can move it to Preternia which could be a place for those who don't know what sequels are, because revelations ain't one haha
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby primalxconvoy » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:05 pm

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:- He's out, legally, in France and someone else, other than the usual pack of tealeaves, has gotten a video out first. I think I'll even subscribe to them.


Okay so I really don't care about your obsession with/crusade against PvP and others, but I have to know, what the hell is the origin of "tealeaf"? Is it an insult or derogatory term over in Japan that I'm just not familiar with? Google was no help there.


I'm loathe to derail this thread anymore than it has been, but here you go...

Short story:

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Tea Leaf.png


Long Story:

- https://youtu.be/OHNDXDUnrjY

(And if you still can't get it, read the video description)
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby blackeyedprime » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:05 pm

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Nice to see minions on Bulkhead, it looks to me as tho galvatrons guns has the same pegs. Curiouser that no minions have been announced in the rumors.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:09 pm

primalxconvoy wrote:Long Story:

- https://youtu.be/OHNDXDUnrjY

(And if you still can't get it, read the video description)


Got it, Zero Wolf filled me in, I was searching the wrong country. ;)^
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby sol magnus » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:10 pm

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primalxconvoy wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:- He's out, legally, in France and someone else, other than the usual pack of tealeaves, has gotten a video out first. I think I'll even subscribe to them.


Okay so I really don't care about your obsession with/crusade against PvP and others, but I have to know, what the hell is the origin of "tealeaf"? Is it an insult or derogatory term over in Japan that I'm just not familiar with? Google was no help there.


I'm loathe to derail this thread anymore than it has been, but here you go...

Short story:

-
Tea Leaf.png


Long Story:

- https://youtu.be/OHNDXDUnrjY

(And if you still can't get it, read the video description)

These threads get 'derailed' all the time. I admit I forgot to connect my post back to TF but when I was typing it I was going to.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby primalxconvoy » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:31 pm

blackeyedprime wrote:Nice to see minions on Bulkhead...


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...Curiouser that no minions have been announced in the rumors.


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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Dr. Caelus » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:51 pm

blackeyedprime wrote:Nice to see minions on Bulkhead, it looks to me as tho galvatrons guns has the same pegs. Curiouser that no minions have been announced in the rumors.


It's not that weird. 'Minicon pegs' have appeared off-and on for years. I imagine 5mm pegs with holes often work better than 5mm pegs without, because they can deform slightly, making for a secure grip that's not likely to fail. Minicons with the correspondingly shaped plugs are far rarer, probably because their compatibility is very, very limited. WFC micromasters are minicons in all respects, save for the lack of that very specific type of plug.

Edit- by way of example, I just picked up my SG Jetfire and counted; at least four of the 5mm pegs have the Unicron Trilogy holes in them. Two of the handles underneath and the pegs on two of the laser accessories.


Also,

blackeyedprime wrote:They can move it to Preternia which could be a place for those who don't know what sequels are, because revelations ain't one haha


I'd like to think I avoided making my comments about the series personal; please respect that.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby AcademyofDrX » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:57 pm

Do the pegs enable functionality in the minicons, or is the play gimmick in the figures with the minicon pegs? Do they have any functional value on Bulkhead?
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Dr. Caelus » Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:02 pm

AcademyofDrX wrote:Do the pegs enable functionality in the minicons, or is the play gimmick in the figures with the minicon pegs? Do they have any functional value on Bulkhead?


The holes in the pegs allow Armada/Energon/Cybertron Minicons and Energon weapons to attach, where otherwise they would be unable. That's about it.

[Referring to post-UT toys with the pegs.]
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:02 pm

AcademyofDrX wrote:Do the pegs enable functionality in the minicons, or is the play gimmick in the figures with the minicon pegs? Do they have any functional value on Bulkhead?


Historically, some minicon pegs on larger figures had a spring loaded feature in the center that was activated when the minicon was attached. As an example, Cybertron Unicron's chest missile is launched when you plug a minicon onto the peg on his back. The larger figures would have multiple minicon posts, but only 1 or 2 would activate a feature on most figures.

I'm guessing zero functional value on Bulkhead.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby primalxconvoy » Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:17 pm

Which Minicon would make a fitting partner for Bulkhead, aesthetically?
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