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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Ironhidensh » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:43 pm

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Ironhidensh wrote:I believe Cliffjumper is a licensing issue, but when he comes, if he comes, I expect a minor retool of bumblebee.
You do know that the real life Ferrari isn't nearly as super deformed as Cliffjumper's altmode, right?

Yes, but this is Takara we are talking about. With the recent push to cartoon accuracy, I expect a Bee retool.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:46 pm

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Ironhidensh wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:I believe Cliffjumper is a licensing issue, but when he comes, if he comes, I expect a minor retool of bumblebee.
You do know that the real life Ferrari isn't nearly as super deformed as Cliffjumper's altmode, right?

Yes, but this is Takara we are talking about. With the recent push to cartoon accuracy, I expect a Bee retool.
They still maintain real life accuracy for the cars, though.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Ironhidensh » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:48 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:
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Ironhidensh wrote:I believe Cliffjumper is a licensing issue, but when he comes, if he comes, I expect a minor retool of bumblebee.
You do know that the real life Ferrari isn't nearly as super deformed as Cliffjumper's altmode, right?

Yes, but this is Takara we are talking about. With the recent push to cartoon accuracy, I expect a Bee retool.
They still maintain real life accuracy for the cars, though.

I hope you are right but we will see. I need a good Cliffjumoer, and the 3rd party market hasn't delivered yet.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:58 pm

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Ironhidensh wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:I believe Cliffjumper is a licensing issue, but when he comes, if he comes, I expect a minor retool of bumblebee.
You do know that the real life Ferrari isn't nearly as super deformed as Cliffjumper's altmode, right?

Yes, but this is Takara we are talking about. With the recent push to cartoon accuracy, I expect a Bee retool.
They still maintain real life accuracy for the cars, though.

I hope you are right but we will see. I need a good Cliffjumoer, and the 3rd party market hasn't delivered yet.
However, the discrepancy between how the Ferrari looks in real life and how Cliffjumper's altmode looked is probably why they haven't done Cliff yet. No matter what they go with, something won't look right to one person or another: If he's given a realistic altmode, then it won't look like how it looked in the cartoon; if he's given a cartoon-accurate altmode, then it will look scrunched compared to the real thing. It's a lose-lose situation.

But back to Cheetor:
Ironhidensh wrote:Do you honestly think that Takara won't straight repaint Tigatron?
With how slavishly beholden Takara is to the cartoon models (otherwise, they wouldn't have gone as far as they did with the extremely Mainframe-accurate designs of Primal's and Cheeotr's beast modes), I really can't see Takara being satisfied with MP Tigatron being just a straight redeco of Cheetor.

They certainly weren't satisfied with UW Scattershot being a mere straight redeco of CW Scattershot, and that's a character who was practically a footnote in his cartoons compared to the much more prominent (to his own cartoon) Tigatron.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Emerje » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:29 am

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Cliffjumper is a Porsche 924 Turbo, not a Ferrari. ;) (Jazz is a Porsche 935 Turbo, wrap your brain around that!)

But yeah, the original Cheetor mold worked for Tigatron because it didn't look much like a cheetah in the first place (in fact it looks more like a tiger to begin with). The MP is very clearly a Cheetah in every way and no amount of white plastic and black stripes will make it look like a convincing tiger.

Plus I think we're long overdue for a good tiger figure. So many lions...

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Overcracker » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:20 pm

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Anybody have any news on the expected release of Cheetor? I know it was pushed back but Anime Export just emailed me saying:

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Not sure how take that. Was it in stock at some point and I did not get an email requesting payment for shipping? Or has it simply not been in stock?

Seems something went wrong with Cheetor.
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Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w

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Did you really think New York Toy Fair was all we had this weekend? Wrong!

Wonderfest 2017 is currently going on and there are both a ton of new things being revealed, as well as a ton of new images for upcoming product. Among those upcoming products is Masterpiece Cheetor! Cheetor was given his own display alongside Big Bot himself, and can be seen from many different angles thanks to Twitter users tsukiryu@WF5-23-13, ひでΩ ☀(アローラの姿), くろさび, and 小山田(アドビ). You can check out all the mirrored images below, and let us know what you think in the comments section!

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby SureShot18 » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:00 pm

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Not too much longer now. Soon he'll be mine. :DANCE:
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:00 pm

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Now THAT'S gorgeous!

There he is, my little guy. There he is. My little guy. Isn't he cute?
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Re: Wonderfest 2017 - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Cheetor Images #tfワンフェス17w

Postby fenrir72 » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:48 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Did you really think New York Toy Fair was all we had this weekend? Wrong!

Wonderfest 2017 is currently going on and there are both a ton of new things being revealed, as well as a ton of new images for upcoming product. Among those upcoming products is Masterpiece Cheetor! Cheetor was given his own display alongside Big Bot himself, and can be seen from many different angles thanks to Twitter users



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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:01 am

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Ironhidensh » Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:42 pm

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HLJ called, payment is made and shipped. be here in 3 to 5 business days. Interesting to note, Grapple dropped as well. These two guys together are costing less to ship than Primal was back in October.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby SureShot18 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:06 pm

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Ironhidensh wrote:HLJ called, payment is made and shipped. be here in 3 to 5 business days. Interesting to note, Grapple dropped as well. These two guys together are costing less to ship than Primal was back in October.

HLJ rang here too. I'll probably choose cheaper and slower shipping when I pay but I'll have my first MP very soon. :DANCE:
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:54 pm

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Tons more in hand pics here - https://twitter.com/ZEAMTIGER/media

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Overcracker » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:19 pm

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Those pics just make me want it more. Damn Anime Export, when are you going to ship it?

Anyway, gotta give props to the engineering team, that cheetah mode has very few robot parts actually showing and is thin as all heck.

And the robot mode really looks cool.

Not sure which Cheetah face I'll give him though.
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Masterpiece MP 34 Beast Wars Cheetor In Hand Images

Postby william-james88 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:19 pm

Fellow Seibertronian Sabreblade has pointed us to a twitter page loaded with in hand images of the newly released Masterpiece MP 34 Cheetor. Here they are below, giving us the best look at this figure yet. You can see how well articulates it is and all the accessoried he comes with and the different display options they provide, like all those cheetah expressions.

We also get a sense of scale with him next to the generations Rattrap and Rhinox molds.

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby SureShot18 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:25 pm

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Looks like the fake cheeta head is right behind the gut gun in cheeta mode. You can see the ears towards the front of that section. Also it seems the real cheeta is sucked into the robot torso, as was expected. The fact that these pieces are on opposite sides of the beast mode but are right next to each other in robot mode means this is going to be a very interesting transformation.
Also Cheetor should be here Wednesday! I couldn't help it, I chose the faster shipping.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Kurona » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:36 pm

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While shots with Rattrap and Rhinox are appreciated, I'm extremely surprised there's no photos of Cheetor with MP Primal. Surely that would have been the most obvious one?

In any case, holy heck he looks great. I don't even like Cheetor as much as the rest of the Maximals but he looks absolutely delicious here.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:12 pm

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Check out his Beast Mode eye articulation:

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby lowman_x » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:22 pm

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A beauty of a figure bar a minor quibble: not digging the half-tone patterning/style of his cheetah spots. It's really throwing me.

Also, the placement of Rattrap's gun in beast mode is unfortunate when he stands on his back legs... LOL
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:41 pm

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lowman_x wrote:A beauty of a figure bar a minor quibble: not digging the half-tone patterning/style of his cheetah spots. It's really throwing me.
There's a very specific reason for those spots looking the way they do.

They replicate the UVW map stretching that Mainframe used to create the cheetah spots on Cheetor's CG model.

That's right. Takara actually recreated 1996 television budget-level CGI techniques in physical 2017 plastic form. It is so OCD-absurd that I can't help but admire how far they went to achieve such meticulously-faithful perfection, warts and all, in plastic form.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby lowman_x » Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:18 am

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lowman_x wrote:A beauty of a figure bar a minor quibble: not digging the half-tone patterning/style of his cheetah spots. It's really throwing me.
There's a very specific reason for those spots looking the way they do.

They replicate the UVW map stretching that Mainframe used to create the cheetah spots on Cheetor's CG model.

That's right. Takara actually recreated 1996 television budget-level CGI techniques in physical 2017 plastic form. It is so OCD-absurd that I can't help but admire how far they went to achieve such meticulously-faithful perfection, warts and all, in plastic form.


Yeah, I'd figured that they were going for 1990s texture mapped realism, but IRL it's making me dislike the figure despite all of the really good aspects about it (of which there are plenty).
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

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lowman_x wrote:A beauty of a figure bar a minor quibble: not digging the half-tone patterning/style of his cheetah spots. It's really throwing me.
There's a very specific reason for those spots looking the way they do.

They replicate the UVW map stretching that Mainframe used to create the cheetah spots on Cheetor's CG model.

That's right. Takara actually recreated 1996 television budget-level CGI techniques in physical 2017 plastic form. It is so OCD-absurd that I can't help but admire how far they went to achieve such meticulously-faithful perfection, warts and all, in plastic form.


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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Kurona » Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:49 am

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If MP-38 is any indication, they might end up releasing a toy-accurate version somewhere down the line - not to mention the likelihood of Shadow Panther and Tigatron redecoes. There's hope for the mold yet if you don't like how it looks here :)
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