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News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:59 pm

blackeyedprime wrote:Doesnt exactly hold true when updates havent been better or plain reissues like bigconvoy (even the new big gun version isnt an update as such) but it will likely all have been covered by the 50th anniversary with the possible exception of that car robots/Rid armada prime as he first appeared in armada.

that's why I included the Encore stuff: maybe not an update, but a reissue, like the RiD Magnus/Prime set.

They may not be new, and they might also not be better, but we are getting a version of all the commanders someway or another

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:47 pm

Lio Convoy's iconography pretty much begins and ends in Japan, as he was the star leader of the good guys from one of the TV series that aired in that country, and of all Beast Era leaders best represents the particular heroic leader archetype that Japan views as ideal.

Though, while he sounds plain as paper to Westerners, he did get more interesting later in the series when Lio Junior was introduced and brought in some drama with Lio Convoy being unexpectedly thrust into a "deadbeat dad" role, and even later still when he and Galvatron would begin to partake in civil debates over their conflicting philosophies and ideologies.

News Credits: 4498 · by **william-james88** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:33 pm

I just like him because he is a transforming lion.

News Credits: 340 · by **Stargrave** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:08 pm

william-james88 wrote:I just like him because he is a transforming lion.

Amen to that shirt.

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:07 pm

william-james88 wrote:I just like him because he is a transforming lion.

Cool Uncle Optimus lion. You can't really beat that

News Credits: 4498 · by **william-james88** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:13 pm

I will wait to news until we have an official source but for discussion, the price is said to be 20000 Yen. While its not the craziest price, it is enough for me to no longer want a figure I was kinda interested in (I do not know the character all that well).

News Credits: 18 · by **blackeyedprime** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:32 am

Unless he comes with a trailer for £150 he had better be one big lion.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:54 am

We still don't have a full list of the extras he comes with which will be the ultimate decider if the price is justifiable for many. Though given the recent price increases on the masterpiece line I'm not suprised really

News Credits: 25 · by **Ironhidensh** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:54 am

ZeroWolf wrote:We still don't have a full list of the extras he comes with which will be the ultimate decider if the price is justifiable for many. Though given the recent price increases on the masterpiece line I'm not suprised really

Yeah, this sounds par for recent course. Hound may very well be the final official MP I purchase. 3rd party is now cheaper than official. We will see, though. If Takara manages to knock one out of the park...... but given the new Bumblebee design, and Prime’s price, I think those days are over.

News Credits: 340 · by **Stargrave** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:14 am

An international shipping list from snakasblog says it’s actually 22,000y/$300:

News Credits: 4498 · by **william-james88** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:55 am

Stargrave wrote:An international shipping list from snakasblog says it’s actually 22,000y/$300:

That number combination doesnt make any sense. Lets wait a bit for the real listing.

News Credits: 340 · by **Stargrave** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:49 pm

Yeah that’s like $95 off I don’t get it.

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:56 am

New pics of MP Lio Convoy, comparing him with the original 1998 toy, as well as some old Lucky Draws and original concept art sketches from way back then.

https://twitter.com/robo_fun/status/1157301777101799424

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:14 am

In light of Lio's default colour palette, they do seem to have missed out on one redeco in particular...

News Credits: 25 · by **Ironhidensh** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:28 am

I'm thinking that its a bad camera angle, but is it smaller than the original?

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:31 am

Ironhidensh wrote:I'm thinking that its a bad camera angle, but is it smaller than the original?

I thought the same. I think it is. The base body, minus shoulder kibble, looks a lot smaller.

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:32 am

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:In light of Lio's default colour palette, they do seem to have missed out on one redeco in particular...

You mean that movie that so obviously ripped off from one of Japan's biggest icons (who actually was the original inspiration for Convoy's being a white lion) but which Disney will never admit to having done?

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:34 am

Sabrblade wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:In light of Lio's default colour palette, they do seem to have missed out on one redeco in particular...
You mean that movie that so obviously ripped off from one of Japan's biggest icons (who actually was the original inspiration for Convoy's being a white lion) but which Disney will never admit to having done?

Bingo!

The "completely original idea", that was the first Disney film to draw from NO source material...

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:34 am

Ironhidensh wrote:I'm thinking that its a bad camera angle, but is it smaller than the original?

It is, but the original was an in-articulate brick that towered over all of his compatriots and scaled poorly with virtually every other figure in the line. This new one is better scaled, better proportioned, better articulated, and even sizes well with the original 1999 Big Convoy toy.

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:38 am

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The "completely original idea", that was the first Disney film to draw from NO source material...

Yeah, that label wouldn't actually come until a year later with the release of A Goofy Movie (story-wise, at least).

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:44 am

Indeed. After I watched a documentary on Kimba The White Lion, was the first time I realised Disney are a terrible company. The only reason they didn't get sued for not acknowledging the source material they stole from with The Lion King, was because they have better lawyers... sickening.

Sabrblade wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:I'm thinking that its a bad camera angle, but is it smaller than the original?
It is, but the original was an in-articulate brick that towered over all of his compatriots and scaled poorly with virtually every other figure in the line. This new one is better scaled, better proportioned, better articulated, and even sizes well with the original 1999 Big Convoy toy.

Weird to think, Gigatron, the Ten Former, came out a year after Big Convoy and is one of the most articulated multi-formers HasTak have ever made :???:

News Credits: 4498 · by **william-james88** » Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:32 pm

FYI, for those curious, the first beast Wars MP KO was released and it is terrible beast-wars-mps-are-now-being-ko-d-p2035036.php#p2035036

While the initial KOs were passable for people who didnt mind having unofficial figures, its now becoming a less favourable option, even for those inclined to purchase them. Recent MPs have been having more parts than ever before, leading to higher prices. While the KOs of said MPs (Sunstreaker, Dinobot) are cheaper than the original, they are still more costly than previous KOs and since they are far more inferior to the original product than previous KOs, it seems the MP KO market may no longer be viable for fans since the sub par product (ie KO Sunstreaker or Dinobot) will truly feel subpar.

basically, with these KOs you are now paying less for a lesser product rather than getting something of decent quality for cheap.

News Credits: 18 · by **blackeyedprime** » Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:14 pm

Well, Kapows got preorders up for MPEXPENSIVE Prime £365 non mint box, £375 mint box. Makes Unicron look like a bargain and the Siege Omega a no brainer. Really cant justify that for prime, had a hard enough time rationising the downgraded MP10 from MP1 to go with the new scaling.

by **BLUDGEON** » Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:09 pm

Can we talk about 3rd party TFs? Does anyone collect Fanstoys MPs?
Anyone have an idea when Spoiler will come out and how much he will cost? Ive seen some wildly differing prices

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:12 pm

BLUDGEON wrote:Can we talk about 3rd party TFs? Does anyone collect Fanstoys MPs?
Anyone have an idea when Spoiler will come out and how much he will cost? Ive seen some wildly differing prices

Here