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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:40 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Skyfire is a waste of a slot considering the Siege on exists


It's like saying SS86 Grimlock is a waste because the MP exist.
It's comparing apples to oranges.

Not in Skyfires case. The Siege on is literally MP scale, he is Star Saber sized.
Star Saber is undersized. His MP is CHUG-scaled. He should have at least been the height of Armada Unicron, if not even taller. His Combiner-sized "Battle Up!" form shouldn't be the same height as Ultra Magnus.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:58 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Skyfire is a waste of a slot considering the Siege on exists


It's like saying SS86 Grimlock is a waste because the MP exist.
It's comparing apples to oranges.

Not in Skyfires case. The Siege on is literally MP scale, he is Star Saber sized. He's the size of the 3P MP ones too.

this is a case of literal apples to apples.


The only info we gave so far is that MP Skyfire is "United Warrior sized". This mean nothing.
Beside, the MP will not be made out of semi-soft plastics with hollow spaces all over the place.


The "Unite Warriors sized" referred to Raiden, not Skyfire.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Ultra Mad » Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:46 pm

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With Black Zarak coming and Masterpiece Raiden...my wallet is going to cry but my itch to bring more japanese characters to my collection will be satisfied. I wonder what is the time table for this Raiden figure... I'm sure it's closer then we might think. However...I did see an interesting unofficial Trainbot combiner on the horizon...Choices, choices... :-(
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:29 am

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Well, Black Zarak has been announced for a December release. Alongside rendered images of what he will look like.

MP Raiden, currently only exists as name without details. So I wouldn't expect to see him this year.

Meanwhile 3P Raiden/Radiatron also has a release date of December. Again with rendered images.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:44 am

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I transformed MP Inferno this morning. More simple than I thought and he's actually pretty nice to handle.

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Syclone » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:03 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:I transformed MP Inferno this morning. More simple than I thought and he's actually pretty nice to handle.

Also, Ladder Magic! :x


I wish everything was as nice as inferno/grapple and iron hide/ratchet. They were really on to something with those guys. Solid, stable, entertaining transformations without being crazy.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:15 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:I transformed MP Inferno this morning. More simple than I thought and he's actually pretty nice to handle.

Also, Ladder Magic! :x

Was it the real deal then?
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:34 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:I transformed MP Inferno this morning. More simple than I thought and he's actually pretty nice to handle.

Also, Ladder Magic! :x

Was it the real deal then?


I have absolutely no idea how to tell. Plus the Reprolabels won't help in identifying the thing.

Regardless, after playing with him, he feel damn solid and fun. So that's good I guess.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:25 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:I transformed MP Inferno this morning. More simple than I thought and he's actually pretty nice to handle.

Also, Ladder Magic! :x

Was it the real deal then?


I have absolutely no idea how to tell. Plus the Reprolabels won't help in identifying the thing.

Regardless, after playing with him, he feel damn solid and fun. So that's good I guess.

Well, at least he's not falling apart on you, that's probably a good sign regarding its origin.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:19 pm

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Full English translation of the Masterpiece interview with Kōjin Ōno from the latest issue of Figure King that talked about Skids, Reboost, Raiden, and Skyfire:
Here is a message from Mr Ono, the legendary toy designer who worked on the latest Masterpiece Skids.

The recent Masterpiece figures are difficult to transform, I feel it's much better to focus on a more mechanical transformation…. For Skids, the starting point was to create a Masterpiece figure which took a different direction and this is very different from the current trend of figures. Another aim was to keep the costs down without affecting the quality. After all the "Transformers" started with the Car Robots and they have such a strong presence especially when these vehicles turn into robots. When thinking of characters yet to receive the MP treatment, Skids the Honda City came to mind. It's true he only appeared twice in the cartoon but the overall look of the City is so attractive; and currently the 80’s is enjoying a resurgence. That's why I decided to take the challenge with Skids, not only to bring out more characters from the cartoon but also to add to the appeal of this car. Back in the day, the City was very popular, sporty and cool. It was fascinating. I used to own a red City R so I’m quite attached to it.

Having designed the Car Robots I’d never have expected to be handed this project however I was determined to do something I was unable to do in the past. The development is being handled by Yuya Onishi’s team. Due to the schedule the design has not been outsourced and has been drawn up completely by Onishi.

The colours chosen respect the animation and the weapons have been designed in a similar fashion. Additionally we wanted to follow the original Car Robot play aspect to allow us to seat the small figures, sold previously in the Masterpiece series, in the driver's seat. Unfortunately the Motocompo is not included. When you talk about the City, you can’t not think about the Motocompo but when Skids became a Transformer the Motocompo was omitted. That's the reason I didn’t include it with this version of Skids. I thought about including it when we would release a Diaclone version.

As development progressed there was a feeling in the team that if we wanted to recreate the City it would have to be “red”. This year is the 40th Anniversary of the City so my boss simply said “Don’t you think we should release two colours simultaneously?”. I thought that was a great idea for car fans to pick up two Masterpieces at the same time; Skids the Transformer and a brand new character who transforms from City to robot, Reboost! As Reboost is a brand new character we had to release it with a little extra which is why the Motocompo is included.

Several Masterpieces are currently being developed at the same time, these include the Trainbots and a brand new Skyfire. Raiden will be of a similar size to the Unite Warriors. I know everyone has been anticipating this release so please stay tuned.
Note that by "Car Robots" he means the original Diaclone molds that became the 1984-1985 Autobot Cars.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:27 pm

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Mr Ono wrote: currently the 80’s is enjoying a resurgence.


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Only "currently"? :lol:

Sabrblade wrote:Note that by "Car Robots" he means the original Diaclone molds that became the 1984-1985 Autobot Cars.


Indeed. Although it is still really disappointing. Neither last year for Car Robots or this one for RiD are likely to receive any fanfare for that anniversary at all. It's ok though. They will rush to celebrate the 40th anniversary of a Honda instead.... :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:37 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Note that by "Car Robots" he means the original Diaclone molds that became the 1984-1985 Autobot Cars.


Indeed. Although it is still really disappointing. Neither last year for Car Robots or this one for RiD are likely to receive any fanfare for that anniversary at all. It's ok though. They will rush to celebrate the 40th anniversary of a Honda instead.... :BANG_HEAD:
It got stuff in its 15th, 17th, and 18th anniversary years in Legends, Unite Warriors, and Encore. >:oP
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Ultra Mad » Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:49 pm

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I actually am curious about the last few sentences. When he said people have been looking to the trainbots and to staying tuned. News or reveal soon for Raiden? I'm really enthusiastic about Raiden because after I got UW Computron, I was kind of hoping for Raiden to finish my G1 autobots combiners. The fact he will be UW size (Devy or standard CW size) is still the best thing I could have hoped for since he will go with the rest of my Chug scale figures and not my masterpiece ones. Not looking forward for the price tag on it though...
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:54 pm

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Ultra Mad wrote:I actually am curious about the last few sentences. When he said people have been looking to the trainbots and to staying tuned. News or reveal soon for Raiden?
"Stay tuned" is corporate talk for "We have nothing to say right now about this future project, so just keep waiting."
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Ultra Mad » Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:14 pm

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If "Stay tuned" is their version of "We have nothing", it is really disappointing...
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:16 pm

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Ultra Mad wrote:If "Stay tuned" is their version of "We have nothing", it is really disappointing...
It's just a reminder/reassurance that the project isn't dead/is still happening.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:20 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:It got stuff in its 15th, 17th, and 18th anniversary years in Legends, Unite Warriors, and Encore. >:oP



Be that as it may, a 20th anniversary is a big deal. Yet as far as Hasbro is concerned, not one that matters if it isn't G1.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:19 pm

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So is Skids going to be easier or even harder to transform?
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:23 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:It got stuff in its 15th, 17th, and 18th anniversary years in Legends, Unite Warriors, and Encore. >:oP



Be that as it may, a 20th anniversary is a big deal. Yet as far as Hasbro is concerned, not one that matters if it isn't G1.
As much as we like it, in all truth to be told, it was just a filler line at the time, on both sides of the Atlantic.

And lacked the runaway smash hit success of a certain other filler line from a few years later that spawned numerous sequel lines that continue to this day. ;)
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sat Apr 03, 2021 4:23 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:It got stuff in its 15th, 17th, and 18th anniversary years in Legends, Unite Warriors, and Encore. >:oP



Be that as it may, a 20th anniversary is a big deal. Yet as far as Hasbro is concerned, not one that matters if it isn't G1.
As much as we like it, in all truth to be told, it was just a filler line at the time, on both sides of the Atlantic.

And lacked the runaway smash hit success of a certain other filler line from a few years later that spawned numerous sequel lines that continue to this day. ;)



Indeed. In all honesty though, I just want a new version of Gigatron. Literally the best Multiformer they ever made. A one-off MP would be great. To me, he is the only original figure in that line that is worth further recognition.

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:42 am

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:It got stuff in its 15th, 17th, and 18th anniversary years in Legends, Unite Warriors, and Encore. >:oP



Be that as it may, a 20th anniversary is a big deal. Yet as far as Hasbro is concerned, not one that matters if it isn't G1.
As much as we like it, in all truth to be told, it was just a filler line at the time, on both sides of the Atlantic.

And lacked the runaway smash hit success of a certain other filler line from a few years later that spawned numerous sequel lines that continue to this day. ;)



Indeed. In all honesty though, I just want a new version of Gigatron. Literally the best Multiformer they ever made. A one-off MP would be great. To me, he is the only original figure in that line that is worth further recognition.

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby JoeIsNotCool » Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:04 am

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Decided to catch up on the MPM figures, still waiting on Optimus and Bumblebee to arrive (thankfully on their way). Got Ironhide and Jazz for cheaper than I anticipated at £90 for the two! I'm excited to complete the set.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:44 am

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What would you like to see in a potential mp gigatron?


As a figure from 2000 he holds up surprisingly well. So as a MP, mostly just quality of life improvements, such as improved articulation. Ignoring that whole "toon accuracy" thing, which is mostly irrelevant to him. Since his default figure was that already. I'd say give him the full 10 transformations too. With the "Devil Gigatron/Galvatron" redeco, being just that. Also, as the original 'Hand Mode' could be added to G1 Fort Max. Enable the MP to connect to TR Fort Max.

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Naturally he needs to be bigger too. Ignore that this is Galvatron for a moment. The TM 2 Cybershark mold is a tall figure. So a 'Commander Class' sized MP would be about right for Gigatron.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:48 am

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I'd see a MP Gigatron as the same size of MP Beast Wars Megatron... and the price to match.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:53 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:I'd see a MP Gigatron as the same size of MP Beast Wars Megatron... and the price to match.


It is easy to forget how big MP Megs was

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I'd like to see a comparison image between him and Siege Jetfire. But it doesn't look like anyone has taken those images. :???:


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