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Re: Figure King 195 Scans: Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Prototype

Postby megatronus » Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:55 pm

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They'll probably be talking up reveals for Jackie, Bee, and Magnus for a while. This past week, Saber's character model sketches were teased, so I imagine it will be some time before we see some in-hand protos.


I figure so but I am excited. The design decisions used on UM make me even more intrigued to see how they treat Star Saber.

Same. :D
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Re: Figure King 195 Scans: Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Prototype

Postby Burn » Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:56 pm

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So ... am I the only Ultra Magnus fanboy that will be buying two? :WHISTLE:
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Re: Figure King 195 Scans: Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Prototype

Postby xyl360 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:58 pm

Burn wrote:So ... am I the only Ultra Magnus fanboy that will be buying two? :WHISTLE:

What, one for bot mode and one for alt mode? Damn, you had to bring that up, didn't you :P? I wasn't even thinking about it. My only concern was that I'd need to make sure I was able to snag one of the inevitable eHobby Diaclone color repaints. Now you've got me thinking about 2 of the regular version as well.
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Re: Figure King 195 Scans: Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Prototype

Postby LOST Cybertronian » Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:58 pm

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Re: Figure King 195 Scans: Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Prototype

Postby megatronus » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:01 pm

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Burn wrote:So ... am I the only Ultra Magnus fanboy that will be buying two? :WHISTLE:

I buy MP's in duplicate...


LOST Cybertronian wrote:If this isn't MP-10 with armor, then I just might be out.

I would be gravely disappointed if there wasn't a cab robot... I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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Re: Figure King 195 Scans: Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Prototype

Postby LOST Cybertronian » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:07 pm

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Also I have no doubt Hasbro will release this. Finding one may be a different story.
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Re: Figure King 195 Scans: Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Prototype

Postby Burn » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:12 pm

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Burn wrote:So ... am I the only Ultra Magnus fanboy that will be buying two? :WHISTLE:

What, one for bot mode and one for alt mode?


Damn straight!

I've only done it once before and that was for Kabaya God Ginrai. ('cause he has so many modes)

I have a shelf dedicated to Ultra Magnus. This release? It becomes a larger shrine, much like my Optimus Prime/Convoy cabinet and stand.
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Re: Figure King 195 Scans: Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Prototype

Postby Zeek99g » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:13 pm

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LOST Cybertronian wrote:If this isn't MP-10 with armor, then I just might be out.

From what I can see, this will be MP-10 with armor.
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Re: Figure King 195 Scans: Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Prototype

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:17 pm

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LOST Cybertronian wrote:If this isn't MP-10 with armor, then I just might be out.

From what I can see, this will be MP-10 with armor.
Newer translations claim it isn't MP-10 with armor, but a new figure that borrows cab elements from MP-10 without being able to transform into a white Optimus Prime cab robot.
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Re: Figure King 195 Scans: Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Prototype

Postby Mindmaster » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:22 pm

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LOST Cybertronian wrote:If this isn't MP-10 with armor, then I just might be out.

From what I can see, this will be MP-10 with armor.
Newer translations claim it isn't MP-10 with armor, but a new figure that borrows cab elements from MP-10 without being able to transform into a white Optimus Prime cab robot.


But didn't the page we got translated just say that it can form Whiteimus Prime? I'm confused. :???:
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Re: Figure King 195 Scans: Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Prototype

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:29 pm

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Mindmaster wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Zeek99g wrote:
LOST Cybertronian wrote:If this isn't MP-10 with armor, then I just might be out.

From what I can see, this will be MP-10 with armor.
Newer translations claim it isn't MP-10 with armor, but a new figure that borrows cab elements from MP-10 without being able to transform into a white Optimus Prime cab robot.


But didn't the page we got translated just say that it can form Whiteimus Prime? I'm confused. :???:
Cyberpath linked to a new translation that states otherwise:
Cyberpath wrote:Alternative translations from tfw2005: http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transform ... st10922097

They're saying that the cab doesn't transform into a white Convoy. This makes more sense to me than the translation on Facebook.

I actually prefer it this way. When I think of Magnus I think of the big guy from the cartoon, never the white Prime.


Here's the translation he linked to:
Loose translation:

"MP22 is Ultra Magnus! The G1 toy was famous for being a Convoy with armor, but this Masterpiece will follow the cartoon concept. There's no smaller robot mode, cab and trailer turns into the robot. Same size and shares parts like tires and front grill with MP10."

Also says something about not having to detach the shoulder missiles to transform, but I'm not sure. Out in late December, price is 19440 yen.


Here's another one:
Hey everyone,

I did a quick translation of the rest of the description of the figure. It's not perfect but that's pretty close to what it's saying. Not sure if anyone already did it. Do they always have to take the worst pics imaginable? Sometimes I can't read the Kanji.

マスターピース第22弾はウルトラマグナスに決定!G1トイではコンボイと同型の小型ロボットと、カーキャリアが変形した型ボディの合体が印象的だが、マスターピースではアニメーション映象と同様の変形コンセプトを実現。キャブ単独のロボットモードは存在せず、キャブとカーキャリアが一体のままロボットなる変形パターンを採用している。ビークルモードのキャブはMP-10コンボイと同じサイズで、タイヤやフロントグリルなど、一部バーツも共用されている。その他、肩のミサイルにも基部の?動を盛る込むなど差し替えなしでの変形が可能となっている。

The decision for Masterpiece 22 is Ultramagnus! For the small size of the G1 toy’s robot form, the transformation and unification of the car carrier was impressive, but our target for the masterpiece (figure) was implementing a transformation identical to the cartoon. Without the existence of the (truck) cab in robot mode, we had to employ the robot transformation of the cab and car carrier as it is. In vehicle mode, the cab, tires, front grill etc., are the same size as MP-10’s、so we used the commonalities of the two. Furthermore, transformation can be done without removing (replacing) the shoulder missiles.


Taking the above Kana and Kanji text and putting it into Google Translate gets this awful translation, but one that contains something important:
22 bullets Masterpiece decision to Ultra Magnus! And small robots of the same type as the convoy, the union of body type the deformed car carriers are impressive in the G1 toy, but I realize the concept of deformation as well as animation Utsuzo the masterpiece. Robot mode of the cab alone does not exist, I have adopted the deformation pattern car carrier cab is robot left on earth. Cab of the vehicle mode is the same size as the MP-10 Convoy, such as tires and front grill, some baht has also been shared. Others, even missiles shoulder of the base and? It is possible to deformation without replacement and crowded mol movement.
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Re: Figure King 195 Scans: Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Prototype

Postby Zeek99g » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:31 pm

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Zeek99g wrote:
LOST Cybertronian wrote:If this isn't MP-10 with armor, then I just might be out.

From what I can see, this will be MP-10 with armor.
Newer translations claim it isn't MP-10 with armor, but a new figure that borrows cab elements from MP-10 without being able to transform into a white Optimus Prime cab robot.


What?!

It would be awesome to have MP-10 fit inside Ultra Magnus's armor! :sad:

Well, it would be a feat of engineering to do what the translation says.
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Re: Figure King 195 Scans: Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Prototype

Postby Mindmaster » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:33 pm

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Re: Figure King 195 Scans: Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Prototype

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Re: Figure King 195 Scans: Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Prototype

Postby Daniel Gallagher » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:56 pm

I can't for the life in me understand why can't these people take a decent full framed picture of a damn magazine page without blurring it or cropping the most important parts out. :HEADHURTS:

I am sure these are carefully produced by Has/Tak's marketing people and posted online to send the forums into frenzy. :BANG_HEAD: 8-}

Bastards!!!!

Now onto the subject, it's an instant WANT and BUY. Fantastic figure! This is gonna ooze so much awesomeness in my shelf it's gonna be hard not to walk around the house without a huge boner every single time.

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Re: Figure King 195 Scans: Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Prototype

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:56 pm

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Cartoon accuracy is what the MP line has been all about since MP-10 (sans Wheeljack stupid Lancia license compromise).
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Re: Figure King 195 Scans: Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Prototype

Postby REMINATOR » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:20 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Cartoon accuracy is what the MP line has been all about since MP-10 (sans Wheeljack stuping Lancia license compromise).

I will believe in this statement when TTomy gives me my white leg MP Red Alert! Hopefully Hasbro will give me cartoon accurate Red Alert.
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Re: Figure King 195 Scans: Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Prototype

Postby shajaki » Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:35 pm

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im also a little bummed about not having a white armored prime. but i can totally live with it.

however this does almost motivate me to buy KFC's to stand with my MP02 magnus. if KFC's goes on sale (hopefully due to MP22) ill probably grab one.
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Re: Figure King 195 Scans: Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Prototype

Postby Doctor McGrath » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:18 pm

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May I ask why the white Prime inside is such a big deal? Would you display a white MP-10 by the trailer instead of putting on the armor? My display will have him all armored up regardless of how he gets there.
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Re: Figure King 195 Scans: Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Prototype

Postby Burn » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:27 pm

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Dreamwave established that it's White Prime in armour while IDW have established that it's basically any bot in the armour.

Of course neither are the cartoon.

With or without the separate cab robot, I really hope we get a Powered Convoy repaint, and a E-Hobby exclusive Shining Ultra Magnus.

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Re: Figure King 195 Scans: Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Prototype

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:30 pm

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Burn wrote:Dreamwave established that it's White Prime in armour while IDW have established that it's basically any bot in the armour.

Of course neither are the cartoon.

With or without the separate cab robot, I really hope we get a Powered Convoy repaint, and a E-Hobby exclusive Shining Ultra Magnus.

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Re: Figure King 195 Scans: Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Prototype

Postby Doctor McGrath » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:30 pm

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Right, I'm familiar with Ultra Magnus. I guess I just don't understand why not having a white prime inside of the armor is a deal breaker to some unless they were going to display him as the white prime. I think the Minimus Ambus route is a cool twist that IDW brought to the table but I'm not not going to buy this because I know he isn't in there. Personal preference and priorities i guess.

I do agree about Powered Convoy though. Bring it!
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Re: Figure King 195 Scans: Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Prototype

Postby Burn » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:20 pm

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Doctor McGrath wrote:Right, I'm familiar with Ultra Magnus. I guess I just don't understand why not having a white prime inside of the armor is a deal breaker to some unless they were going to display him as the white prime.


For me personally, it's a case of what I grew up with as a kid. Many times when playing I would have Optimus and white Magnus together, sometimes Magnus got beat up so Prime had to take the armour (I knew nothing about Powered Convoy back then) so for me it's strictly a nostalgic reason.

Can't speak for others though.
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Re: Figure King 195 Scans: Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Prototype

Postby Doctor McGrath » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:31 pm

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Burn wrote:
Doctor McGrath wrote:Right, I'm familiar with Ultra Magnus. I guess I just don't understand why not having a white prime inside of the armor is a deal breaker to some unless they were going to display him as the white prime.


For me personally, it's a case of what I grew up with as a kid. Many times when playing I would have Optimus and white Magnus together, sometimes Magnus got beat up so Prime had to take the armour (I knew nothing about Powered Convoy back then) so for me it's strictly a nostalgic reason.

Can't speak for others though.



Haha right on man, that's a cool reason. I was just curious.
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Re: Figure King 195 Scans: Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Prototype

Postby Burn » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:32 pm

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For the record, while I would like a separate cab/robot ... I can live without it as long as the final Ultra Magnus robot is awesome.
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Twincast / Podcast #347:
"Swooped In"
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Posted: Saturday, April 6th, 2024

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