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[william-james88]

Can you show us your listing and seller DMax, to show us who to avoid.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Can you show us your listing and seller DMax, to show us who to avoid.

This seller: https://www.ebay.com/usr/zhoooliming?_t ... 7675.l2559

[william-james88]

Can you show us your listing and seller DMax, to show us who to avoid.

This seller: https://www.ebay.com/usr/zhoooliming?_t ... 7675.l2559

Yeah that sucks. But there is definitely something fishy about a listing which states that the item is unbranded.

[Emerje]

Can you show us your listing and seller DMax, to show us who to avoid.

This seller: https://www.ebay.com/usr/zhoooliming?_t ... 7675.l2559

Yeah that sucks. But there is definitely something fishy about a listing which states that the item is unbranded.

Though I doubt eBay will care about the unbranded bit when the picture shows branding on the KO box, which is all the more misleading.

Emerje

[Seibertron]

4) Do not ship it back, as it is illegal to ship inauthentic items. Wait a few days and ask Ebay to step in (there is a button for it).

This has me super curious. If its illegal, then how come there are tons of listings, which describe the item to be a KO? Shouldnt E-Bay take them down? I get the idea that shipping an inauthentic product if they advertize it as authentic is illegal, but if they give the customer all the info regarding the legitimacy, does that give them a free pass (from e-bay)?

eBay will take them down if you report the listings. There's a link on every listing that says "Report Item". Here's an example of how the form should be completed with the correct options to notify eBay of the problem listing.

[Seibertron]

Thank you for taking the time to submit this report.
This information is very important to us, so please be assured that we will thoroughly review it and take action if necessary.

If there's a violation, the action we take depends on how it impacts our community. In some cases, we explain the situation to the seller, and the listing will remain on our website. If the item or listing doesn't follow our rules, we may cancel the listing. We may also restrict the seller's buying and selling activities on eBay.

To protect our users' privacy, we're unable to share the action we take. Thanks for understanding.

Note: You don't need to contact us again. Doing so would create a new report and prolong the process.

[Ironhidensh]

The listing you showed was honestly marked as a KO by the seller, why report that one?

[Qwan]

A lot of people recently have been getting burned with knockoff versions of the newest Movie Masterpiece Transformer on the market, MPM-5 Barricade. Buying highly-desired figures like this, especially on sites like eBay with individual sellers, can lead to a definite risk of ending up with a counterfeit version no matter how careful you may be.

To help you identify if your own copy of Barricade is a pretender to the Movie Masterpiece throne, Seibertronian zhaobinis1 has you covered with a couple identification tips - plus a guide on how best to refund your purchase through eBay if you did receive a fake! They recommend not shipping the figure back as it's technically illegal to ship counterfeit items like this.

Here is how you can do to get a refund without shipping back the KO figure:

1) When receive your figure, click return.
2) Fill in reason as "KO" or "not authentic".
3) Take pictures of your KO figure. There are 2 places you can easily see that are proves of KO. 3.1) The "POLICE" print was misprinted on the trunk while it should be on the spoiler. This could have been fixed but you will still see marks on trunk. 3.2) In the crotch there are 2 C shaped parts that you won't see the opening, while on official figures you will. Basically KO put these parts on the wrong direction.
4) Do not ship it back, as it is illegal to ship inauthentic items. Wait a few days and ask Ebay to step in (there is a button for it).
5) An Ebay employee will be assigned to your case and usually they will ask you to DESTROY the figure and sign something to prove you did it. Then they will refund you at sellers cost.

As a visual aid to zhaobinis1's descriptions, we also have an image from D-Maximal Primal showing the misprinted "POLICE" decal (and its clumsy reapplication to the spoiler):


Best of luck to all you buyers out there - hopefully this guide can help keep you alert for counterfeits in your police-bot-acquiring efforts! And of course, our condolences to those who did receive a knockoff. If you have any thoughts or tips of your own to share, let us know in the Energon Pub forums. And as always, stay tuned to Seibertron.com for any more Transformers news and useful information!

[Rated X]

Smh...

Ebay aint the damn police. They aint got no business asking you to destroy something. Id just call the seller out and send it right back to China. He might even send a refund and let you keep it that s**t probably cost him 5 bucks.

[Ironhidensh]

Well, I ordered a legit Barricade from HLJ. When it gets here, I'll compare with my KO, then decide which one I'm keeping, which one goes on eBay.


Cracks me up how even with shipping, Takara Barricade is cheaper than buying a Hasbro version.

[SpikeyTigertron]

Cracks me up how even with shipping, Takara Barricade is cheaper than buying a Hasbro version.

https://hlj.com/product/TKT10942
.... eh... idk about that.... depends on where you shipping it... It'd be about a wash from me if I ordered it from TFSource https://www.tfsource.com/masterpiece/movie-masterpiece/mpm-05-barricade-hasbro/

Possibly give or take a few bucks... but then TFSource would ship it a lot faster.

[SpikeyTigertron]

effectively I'd imagine anyone getting him for less than JP list price should be very wary of KO potential. Which goes back to "if it's too good to be true, it probably is". Not that I really enjoy paying a premium to *make sure* mine is legit... but so be it.

[zhaobinis1]

Smh...

Ebay aint the damn police. They aint got no business asking you to destroy something. Id just call the seller out and send it right back to China. He might even send a refund and let you keep it that s**t probably cost him 5 bucks.

What I posted is what happened to me. So Ebay will do that.

[Wolfman Jake]

I just avoid buying Transformers (or any collectables) from China (Hong Kong and Taiwan included). The risk of getting a knock off is just too much, even when you try to avoid the auctions for items that are way underpriced (a sure sign your not getting an authentic product).

[Terrsolpix]

What would they even ask for? Pictures of you smashing it with a hammer?

[Carnivius_Prime]

Can i have a free KO then?

[Rated X]

Smh...

Ebay aint the damn police. They aint got no business asking you to destroy something. Id just call the seller out and send it right back to China. He might even send a refund and let you keep it that s**t probably cost him 5 bucks.

What I posted is what happened to me. So Ebay will do that.

And I never said they wouldn't. I said they had no business making that request. I see it as an agenda. You really think some 50 year old Chinese toy dealer knows the difference between a in package KO barricade and a real one? The anti-KO crowd seems to be under the impression that these dealers are transformers experts. They just sell stuff for a living. Theres enough high quality KOs out there being marketed and sold as KOs for budget collectors. Im inclined to believe this is more of a case of mistaken identity than deceit. All the ebay dealer probally knows by word of mouth is where he can pick up a pallet of toys to flip for profit. I doubt he knows where they were assembled. Hell its probally the guy who sold him the pallet that lied. So e-bay needs to chill out with all the hate rethoric and remain neutral. Refund the money and stay out of the politics. I dont see walmart asking me to prove I destroyed a bad product to get my money back.

[Qwan]

Smh...

Ebay aint the damn police. They aint got no business asking you to destroy something. Id just call the seller out and send it right back to China. He might even send a refund and let you keep it that s**t probably cost him 5 bucks.

What I posted is what happened to me. So Ebay will do that.

And I never said they wouldn't. I said they had no business making that request. I see it as an agenda. You really think some 50 year old Chinese toy dealer knows the difference between a in package KO barricade and a real one? The anti-KO crowd seems to be under the impression that these dealers are transformers experts. They just sell stuff for a living. Theres enough high quality KOs out there being marketed and sold as KOs for budget collectors. Im inclined to believe this is more of a case of mistaken identity than deceit. All the ebay dealer probally knows by word of mouth is where he can pick up a pallet of toys to flip for profit. I doubt he knows where they were assembled. Hell its probally the guy who sold him the pallet that lied. So e-bay needs to chill out with all the hate rethoric and remain neutral. Refund the money and stay out of the politics. I dont see walmart asking me to prove I destroyed a bad product to get my money back.

But Walmart also doesn't let you keep that bad product when they give you a refund, do they? From what I understand, it's legally not allowed to physically return the knockoff toy (admittedly I haven't looked into this - I'm just taking what I've heard at face value). So the only way to ensure that customers aren't abusing the refund system to get free stuff, since there's no way to actually retrieve the product, is to request that the counterfeit item be destroyed.

I agree it sounds extreme, but I can at least slightly see the reasoning here, and I don't see any way in which eBay is pushing any "hate rhetoric" or a political agenda here. They're just trying to refund customers who were mislead (by whom doesn't actually matter, they were still mislead), while doing their best to also prevent over-savvy people from abusing the system to get a refund and keep the item.

[dragons]

If people want official version pf you you shouldn’t be buying from amazon and eBay they should be buying from official stores bigbadtoystore, TFSource , https://www.manofactionfigures.com, and others buy from eBay and Amazon it’s fifty fifty chance it will be knock off then you will be spending 2 maybe 300 one for knock off and other official release of toy

[fenrir72]

So uou avoid lena like a plague?

[Octobotimus]

destroy it? WTF no! its better to live with your mistake and just enjoy the figure than destroy a perfectly good figure. the only ones that would do this are takara elitists.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

OK, day 3 of my ordeal, and the guy first offered me a $5 refund (HELL NO), and now he offered me a $20 refund and will not take it back since postage to China is so expensive. Still pissed

[Qwan]

OK, day 3 of my ordeal, and the guy first offered me a $5 refund (HELL NO), and now he offered me a $20 refund and will not take it back since postage to China is so expensive. Still pissed

That is mega frustrating. Definitely sounds like it's time to get eBay to step in, hopefully that'll help straighten things out a bit.

destroy it? WTF no! its better to live with your mistake and just enjoy the figure than destroy a perfectly good figure. the only ones that would do this are takara elitists.

Why not get a refund on the lower-quality, fake figure and then use that money to buy a legitimate one instead, like you intended in the first place? You don't have to be a Takara elitist to prefer having an official, better-quality-controlled, figure over an unreliable nobody's attempt at imitating the original.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

For those keeping up: My MPM Barricade ordeal has ended. Seller finally surrendered to a full refund and return. But then, to my horror, I discovered that in the time between opening him and 24 hours later finding out he was a KO, I threw away the insert. So the guy gave me a $30 refund out of $52 and told me to keep it.

At least when I get the real thing he'll have 2 weapons now. and I will keep the KO in alt mode most likely beside his real buddy. I'll probably get him from TFsource once Greatshot comes in stock, since Barry is already in stock.

[Qwan]

For those keeping up: My MPM Barricade ordeal has ended. Seller finally surrendered to a full refund and return. But then, to my horror, I discovered that in the time between opening him and 24 hours later finding out he was a KO, I threw away the insert. So the guy gave me a $30 refund out of $52 and told me to keep it.

At least when I get the real thing he'll have 2 weapons now. and I will keep the KO in alt mode most likely beside his real buddy. I'll probably get him from TFsource once Greatshot comes in stock, since Barry is already in stock.

Awwh no! At least that's a decent amount, not as good as a full refund but better than $5
I'm glad things mostly worked out, at least. Still sucks that you had to go through that whole ordeal though.