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News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:26 pm

gothsaurus wrote:Thanks @LunaticPrime, I knew that would look awesome!

In person it looks even better

Does anybody have a good suggestion on how to coat custom paint jobs?
Didn't try that yet and my paintjobs smudge and collect fingerprints. And my fingertips collect colors :HEADHURTS:

by **gothsaurus** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:06 pm

Make darn well sure the clear coat matches the paint type you started with. A friend of mine finished an amazing custom and then tried to clear coat it with lacquer clear coat. Bubbled it all up and ruined the custom.

Apparently acrylic, oil, enamel, and lacquer are all different paints. Who knew.

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:23 pm

gothsaurus wrote:Make darn well sure the clear coat matches the paint type you started with. A friend of mine finished an amazing custom and then tried to clear coat it with lacquer clear coat. Bubbled it all up and ruined the custom.

Apparently acrylic, oil, enamel, and lacquer are all different paints. Who knew.

Uhu

Thanks for the info but I still have no clue what to do now :lol:

What should I use for that metallic paint? And what if I use different types of paint especially when they are next to each other? And I often use metallic silver and gold and coat it with a sharpy when it's dried to get those shiny effects. But Sharpys are not waterproof so the coating could make it smudge.

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:24 pm

gothsaurus wrote:Make darn well sure the clear coat matches the paint type you started with. A friend of mine finished an amazing custom and then tried to clear coat it with lacquer clear coat. Bubbled it all up and ruined the custom.

Apparently acrylic, oil, enamel, and lacquer are all different paints. Who knew.

This, a million times this. Lacquer coats are fine on top of lacquer, but nothing else. Acrylic coats are fine on anything (in theory). Also I wouldn't use lacquer on bare, unprimed plastic- the thinner is liable to make the plastic super brittle, as I found to my dismay when I tried giving Deluxe Airachnid a show-accurate purple-hued sheen with Mr. Color Clear Purple.

Generally speaking, putting paint/sealers over each other goes in this order (you can't put something on the top of the list under something beneath it, if that makes sense):
Acrylic
Enamel
Lacquer

Acrylics are the safest to use, and I'd stick to them. I generally use Tamiya as it's an alcohol-based acrylic, meaning that it's generally safe to use over most other stuff but it dries quite fast and quite well.

My honest advice is to go to a Gunpla community for advice. They really know their stuff on painting tiny toy robots.

by **gothsaurus** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:33 pm

Super helpful @BlackHat. Really nice having some people on the boards chiming in like this. I really appreciate it!

Getting back on point... Makes me think that if the Dinobots were painted — or molded in translucent plastic — it would really change the look of the toys. Not seeing that gold detail would put them much more in the realm of looking like... oh, say, maybe... a member of Dino Force???

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:50 pm

*Edited:

gothsaurus wrote:
Black Hat wrote:
gothsaurus wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:Does anybody have a good suggestion on how to coat custom paint jobs?
Didn't try that yet and my paintjobs smudge and collect fingerprints. And my fingertips collect colors

Make darn well sure the clear coat matches the paint type you started with. A friend of mine finished an amazing custom and then tried to clear coat it with lacquer clear coat. Bubbled it all up and ruined the custom.

Apparently acrylic, oil, enamel, and lacquer are all different paints. Who knew.

This, a million times this. Lacquer coats are fine on top of lacquer, but nothing else. Acrylic coats are fine on anything (in theory). Also I wouldn't use lacquer on bare, unprimed plastic- the thinner is liable to make the plastic super brittle, as I found to my dismay when I tried giving Deluxe Airachnid a show-accurate purple-hued sheen with Mr. Color Clear Purple.

Generally speaking, putting paint/sealers over each other goes in this order (you can't put something on the top of the list under something beneath it, if that makes sense):
Acrylic
Enamel
Lacquer

Acrylics are the safest to use, and I'd stick to them. I generally use Tamiya as it's an alcohol-based acrylic, meaning that it's generally safe to use over most other stuff but it dries quite fast and quite well.

My honest advice is to go to a Gunpla community for advice. They really know their stuff on painting tiny toy robots.

Super helpful @BlackHat. Really nice having some people on the boards chiming in like this. I really appreciate it!

Same here

gothsaurus wrote:Getting back on point... Makes me think that if the Dinobots were painted — or molded in translucent plastic — it would really change the look of the toys. Not seeing that gold detail would put them much more in the realm of looking like... oh, say, maybe... a member of Dino Force???

Were or weren't? Because it sounds like you actually wanted to write weren't.
If so: I thought (before they stated that "uniting brands" bullshit) that :TAKARATOMY:

would make the PotP Dinobots cartoon accurate by molding the clear pieces from :HASBRO:

in solid sun-yellow plastic.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:51 pm

Rodimus Knight wrote:So how would we know on the packaging if we are getting a early one or a retooled run of Starscream? Is there a way to know?

The batch number is embossed on the back of the box, and on the figure itself somewhere, usually opposite of the stamped product code (E1137)

A good question is: why didn't they fix the back of the jet mode?

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:58 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:A good question is: why didn't they fix the back of the jet mode?

Here's a better question. Why didn't they just make a better figure?

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:07 pm

Black Hat wrote:Decepticon Combusta

But Combusta was one of the good guys, er, girls.

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:21 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Black Hat wrote:Decepticon Combusta
But Combusta was one of the good guys, er, girls.

Yes, indeed she was- in her original continuity. Names (and character archetypes) can be shared by very different characters across the multiverse. Plus, Twirl was made into a Decepticon in other continuities (notably that one mobile game and Beast Wars: Uprising) so it makes sense that her companions would be able to follow suit. After all, if everything was exactly the same in every single continuity/story, then Transformers would have stagnated and died long ago.

The real reason, however, is that a Decepticon "big mama" who turns into a bomber jet appeals to me in all the right (wrong?) ways. Plus, I like the idea of "Seeker trios" being three-bot squadrons of flying Decepticons, and Falcia, Combusta and Twirl fulfil that criteria.

TLDR: Contrarianism justified by the multiversal insanity that is Transformers canon.

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:21 pm

Just noticed Voyager Starscream in stock at TRU.com. Sure its more expensive than most places ($29.99), but for some this may be the only outlet they have to obtain the toy. Just putting it out there.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:01 pm

Followup: I've seen some people reporting that they have a box with 73101 and the old version of the mold. It leads me to believe that during that production run is when they altered the molds. So don't just trust stamp number alone.

From Exvee and Knightsword of tformers involving PotP Starscream.

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:10 pm

Cobotron wrote:
Albatross250 wrote:Did any of you guys used the Prime Armor as feet?
Do you mean like this?

I was talking with Carytheone about this the other day. I didn't even know this was an intended configuration.
Lesson learned? Sometimes it pays to look at the instructions!
Haven't tried it in combined mode yet, but I bet it adds some nice stability.

I like the look but the ankle peg is set too far foward for the super foot mode to look right. I still use it though.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:39 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Albatross250 wrote:Did any of you guys used the Prime Armor as feet?
Do you mean like this?

I was talking with Carytheone about this the other day. I didn't even know this was an intended configuration.
Lesson learned? Sometimes it pays to look at the instructions!
Haven't tried it in combined mode yet, but I bet it adds some nice stability.

I like the look but the ankle peg is set too far foward for the super foot mode to look right. I still use it though.

Your right. It is set too far forward.

But....

It just dawned on me.
I think this is what Albatross250 really meant.

I don't think that's gonna work so good. :-s

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:43 am

Cobotron wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Albatross250 wrote:Did any of you guys used the Prime Armor as feet?
Do you mean like this?

I was talking with Carytheone about this the other day. I didn't even know this was an intended configuration.
Lesson learned? Sometimes it pays to look at the instructions!
Haven't tried it in combined mode yet, but I bet it adds some nice stability.

I like the look but the ankle peg is set too far foward for the super foot mode to look right. I still use it though.
Your right. It is set too far forward.

Or there's just too much jet kibble hanging forward (we definitely need a kibble-smiley. Maybe one wearing a too huge backpack :-P

Cobotron wrote:But....

It just dawned on me.
I think this is what Albatross250 really meant.

I don't think that's gonna work so good.

That's what came up in my mind first when I read the question. But I also confused Prime armor with decoy suits :HEADHURTS:

I guess Skullgrin will look better

News Credits: 7 · by **Sjeng** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:20 am

So, perhaps this is news-worthy:

did you guys see these? PE-upgrades for the Dinobots Combiner and Grimlock!

https://www.facebook.com/perfecteffect. ... 5589861515

https://www.facebook.com/perfecteffect. ... 7791313295

And also hands and feet for Screamer:

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:48 am

Damn, these look pretty sweet. A shame the storage on some of those parts is a total joke (though the cock-pit is a funny and interesting touch) but it still looks infinitely better than stock.

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:51 am

Sjeng wrote:So, perhaps this is news-worthy:

did you guys see these? PE-upgrades for the Dinobots Combiner and Grimlock!

https://www.facebook.com/perfecteffect. ... 5589861515

https://www.facebook.com/perfecteffect. ... 7791313295

At first look it's awesome and pretty weird. Dinoriders are back or what? #SlagCockpitAddon
And I've been disappointed because first I thought "Why just one giant sword for Volcanicus? I want additional weapons for all of the new Dinobots because 2 are missing swords and 2 are missing there guns." but now I noticed that the giant sword consists of 4 swords and an axe. And the guns you get from the first set which consists of the hands and feet for Volcanicus.
But I'm not sure if I like the look of the new body parts for Volcanicus :-?

Sjeng wrote:And also hands and feet for Screamer:

That's old news

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:44 am

Non-official, third party items have their own sub-forum, please continue discussing them there!

(In fact, there's a PE-specific thread too: perfect-effect-cw-tr-upgrade-kits-catch-all-thread-t106315.php )

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:51 am

Va'al wrote:Non-official, third party items have their own sub-forum, please continue discussing them there!

(In fact, there's a PE-specific thread too: perfect-effect-cw-tr-upgrade-kits-catch-all-thread-t106315.php )

But I think it's nonetheless interesting for the toy line and people interested in it because for example this upgrade kit in particular could change the decision of people if they wanna buy Volcanicus/the Dinobots or not.
And it's meant for the Power of the Primes toy line so I guess it has its place in here :-D

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:04 am

Lunatic Prime wrote:
Va'al wrote:Non-official, third party items have their own sub-forum, please continue discussing them there!

(In fact, there's a PE-specific thread too: perfect-effect-cw-tr-upgrade-kits-catch-all-thread-t106315.php )

But I think it's nonetheless interesting for the toy line and people interested in it because for example this upgrade kit in particular could change the decision of people if they wanna buy Volcanicus/the Dinobots or not.
And it's meant for the Power of the Primes toy line so I guess it has its place in here

As I said above, feel free to discuss those products in their respective forum - this thread is for official Hasbro and Takara (once we merge the two) Power of the Primes figures.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:17 am

We receive news from beyond the veil, courtesy of somber Seibertronian sender DeathReviews, that the first wave of Voyager class figures from the Hasbro Transformers Power of the Primes toyline is now available on the official Hasbro Toy Shop website.

If you have yet to find Starscream (or Swolescream, as parts of the fandom are calling him) or Grimlock who both double up as torso for combiners, with the latter becoming central in creating Volcanicus - now may very well be your chance! You can also try using the promo code NEW2018, though we do not know if the Starscreams available will include the backpack modification reported here. Let us know if you do order one!

The Autobots and Decepticons use Prime Masters to wield the godlike powers of the most legendary bots in the universe: the Primes. Prime Masters carry the spark of a Prime, allowing them to share a Prime's godlike ability with other bots. How will the mighty Dinobot leader Grimlock wield this epic power? Anything is possible and everything is at stake when the Power of the Primes is unleashed!

Transformers Generations Power of the Primes Voyager Class figures are 7-inch-scale figures that come with 2 Prime Armor accessories. Insert a Prime Master figure (each sold separately) into one of the accessories, attach it to the figure, and imagine Grimlock wields the power of a Prime.

Figure Specs:
Voyager Class Grimlock
Modes: robot, T-Rex
Converts in 8 steps
Includes 2 Prime Armor accessories, Dinobot Enigma accessory, and collector card
Works with Prime Master figures (Each sold separately. Subject to availability.)

• Includes Voyager Class Grimlock figure, 2 Prime Armor accessories, Dinobot Enigma accessory, collector card, and instructions.

• Voyager Class Grimlock
• Converts from robot mode to T-Rex mode in 8 steps
• Works with Prime Master figures (Each sold separately. Subject to availability.)
• Includes 2 Prime Armor accessories, Dinobot Enigma accessory, and collector card
• Wield the Power of the Primes with the Dinobot leader

The Autobots and Decepticons use Prime Masters to wield the incredible powers of the legendary bots who shaped the universe: the Primes. Prime Masters carry the spark of a Prime, allowing them to share a Prime's godlike ability with other bots. How will the scheming Decepticon air commander wield this epic power? Anything is possible and everything is at stake when the Power of the Primes is unleashed!

Transformers Generations Power of the Primes Voyager Class figures are 7-inch-scale figures that come with 2 Prime Armor accessories. Insert a Prime Master figure (each sold separately) into one of the accessories, attach it to the figure, and imagine Starscream wields the power of a Prime.

Figure Specs:
Voyager Class Starscream
Modes: robot, jet
Converts in 11 steps
Includes 2 Prime Armor accessories, Seeker Enigma accessory, and collector card
Works with Prime Master figures (Each sold separately. Subject to availability.

• Includes Voyager Class Starscream figure, 2 Prime Armor accessories, Seeker Enigma accessory, collector card, and instructions.

• Voyager Class Starscream
• Converts from robot mode to jet mode in 11 steps
• Works with Prime Master figures (Each sold separately. Subject to availability.)
• Includes 2 Prime Armor accessories, Seeker Enigma accessory, and collector card
• Wield the Power of the Primes with the Decepticon air commander

• Figure scale: 7 inches

News Credits: 7 · by **Sjeng** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:20 am

Thanks for the heads-up! Though the code NEW2018 did nothing for me...
Anyone have one of those subscription 20% codes left?

edit: the HTS site has a code that does work: JAN2018 it gets you 18% off too.