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well, that's underwhelming, but at this point, ill take any limb that assists to finishing off the incomplete combiners. No word on who will offer the exclusive, or price point yet...???

I guess just like Groove and Groove Jr. (my CW Legends Groove), now I'll have Wreck-Gar & WGJr. though they wont even be on the same team

Quantum Surge wrote:At first, I was hoping to see if it'd make a great substitute for Wreck-Gar because I can't find the RTS one for a good price. Then I saw that it was a CW Groove mold, and I don't think it works well for WG. Shame because Wreck-Gar is one of my few favorite characters in the G1 cartoon.

You know what we could have gotten out of this Groove mold? TITANS RETURN SIDEWAYS!

Beast machines Thrust too!

Uprising did it

Underwhelming indeedy. But I might be game for this figure if of the flower's an accessory. I know it's not but wishful thinking.

o.supreme wrote:well, that's underwhelming, but at this point, ill take any limb that assists to finishing off the incomplete combiners. No word on who will offer the exclusive, or price point yet...???

It's a Walgreen's exclusive. It was found in their computers months ago and it should be standard deluxe price.

So it's not getting a higher price for an exclusive then? Intriguing

It doesn't look too bad, I hope it comes packed with one of the unaccounted for Prime Masters, either Prima, Nexus Prime or Amalgamous Prime. If it does I'll definitely buy one, but even if it doesn't I may still stick it on my Lynxmaster.

ZeroWolf wrote:So it's not getting a higher price for an exclusive then? Intriguing

Not really, TR Brainstorm didn't get an exclusive price and was also a Walgreen's exclusive. Exact same scenario here. Now Walgreen's price will vary from store to store, but that will be the same for all deluxes, not just the exclusives. Should be in the $18 to $20 range depending on the location and how much they charge for deluxes.

Munkky wrote:It doesn't look too bad, I hope it comes packed with one of the unaccounted for Prime Masters, either Prima, Nexus Prime or Amalgamous Prime. If it does I'll definitely buy one, but even if it doesn't I may still stick it on my Lynxmaster.

If it is Walgreen's, then I'm guessing it will just be a standard deluxe, same packaging and unfortunately no extras. Just like Brainstorm was.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:So it's not getting a higher price for an exclusive then? Intriguing

Not really, TR Brainstorm didn't get an exclusive price and was also a Walgreen's exclusive. Exact same scenario here. Now Walgreen's price will vary from store to store, but that will be the same for all deluxes, not just the exclusives. Should be in the $18 to $20 range depending on the location and how much they charge for deluxes.

Thanks for the information

o.supreme wrote:now I'll have Wreck-Gar & WGJr.

Do what I did and throw a couple decepticon toyhax stickers over his autobot emblems and give him to Megatronia's team. The color works amazing in combined mode and completes the missing highlighter color going on with the limbs.

I call mine Jester (Joker was too Batman-ish) to go with the card theme, he's basically their toady.

Yes its G2 Groove to go with POTP G2 Hotspot. Cmon shapeways guys, scan the heads so it can happen !

I guess I will get him to add to my collection of Junkions & to have as an extra combiner limb option like I did picking up Rook & CW Blastoff after getting UW Defensor & Bruticus. Too bad it's an exclusive, so that will make it a bit more of a pain to acquire than it needs to be.

ZeroWolf wrote:So it's not getting a higher price for an exclusive then? Intriguing

Has it ever happened in the US that an exclusive was more expensive than non exclusive toys in the same line?

The only time an exclusive deluxe was more expensive was because it came with more stuff, like TR ARcee wth extra Magnus. But the hgher price is because it comes with more stuff, not because its exclusive.

william-james88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:So it's not getting a higher price for an exclusive then? Intriguing

Has it ever happened in the US that an exclusive was more expensive than non exclusive toys in the same line?

The only time an exclusive deluxe was more expensive was because it came with more stuff, like TR ARcee wth extra Magnus. But the hgher price is because it comes with more stuff, not because its exclusive.

Kinda, at least. As recently as last year TRU was charging $19.99 for Skullitron and flying wing Megatron despite everywhere (in my experience TRU included) going for $16ish on normal TLK deluxes. Also, it seems like a tough argument that Arcee and Grotusque don’t have a markup; sure they come with more, but one Titan Master can’t really be said to be worth the $9 difference when the Titan Master + drone sets are $5.

Cyrano wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:So it's not getting a higher price for an exclusive then? Intriguing

Has it ever happened in the US that an exclusive was more expensive than non exclusive toys in the same line?

The only time an exclusive deluxe was more expensive was because it came with more stuff, like TR ARcee wth extra Magnus. But the hgher price is because it comes with more stuff, not because its exclusive.

Kinda, at least. As recently as last year TRU was charging $19.99 for Skullitron and flying wing Megatron despite everywhere (in my experience TRU included) going for $16ish on normal TLK deluxes. Also, it seems like a tough argument that Arcee and Grotusque don’t have a markup; sure they come with more, but one Titan Master can’t really be said to be worth the $9 difference when the Titan Master + drone sets are $5.

TRU sold all TLK deluxes for 19.99. As did all retailers at first except for Walmart.

william-james88 wrote: Has it ever happened in the US that an exclusive was more expensive than non exclusive toys in the same line?

I could be wrong, but IIRC all the May mayhem releases for CW (Quicksling, Breakneck, and Groove), were initially more expensive than standard deluxes which were $15 at the time. I know the first 2 sold out quickly so after market prices went through the roof. Groove was actually released multiple times, and at one point had a price point almost identical to retail, but still always slightly more



Additionally yeah the TRU TR Arcee and Grotusque. Most retailers had TR Deluxe around $15, even if you consider TRU prices around $18 and add the partially Die Cast TM, one wonders if its worth $6-$8 for that alone...

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote: Has it ever happened in the US that an exclusive was more expensive than non exclusive toys in the same line?

I could be wrong, but IIRC all the May mayhem releases for CW (Quicksling, Breakneck, and Groove), were initially more expensive than standard deluxes which were $15 at the time. I know the first 2 sold out quickly so after market prices went through the roof. Groove was actually released multiple times, and at one point had a price point almost identical to retail, but still always slightly more



Additionally yeah the TRU TR Arcee and Grotusque. Most retailers had TR Deluxe around $15, even if you consider TRU prices around $18 and add the partially Die Cast TM, one wonders if its worth $6-$8 for that alone...

The May mayhem deluxe's were the same price as the regular retail figures I got all three of them for around $16 a piece.

Guys, I think we are mixing up MSRP with the price a retailer chooses to sell a toy at.

The MSRP on all TLK Deluxes was 19.99, same with TR Deluxes.

MSRP for exclusive TLK Deluxes was also 19.99 and the msrp for exclusive TR Deluxes was 24.99 but that came with an extra head, extra card and collector packaging.

So comparing apples to apples, there seems to be 0 times the MSRP of an exclusive was more simply because it was an exclusive.

william-james88 wrote:Guys, I think we are mixing up MSRP with the price a retailer chooses to sell a toy at.

The MSRP on all TLK Deluxes was 19.99, same with TR Deluxes.

MSRP for exclusive TLK Deluxes was also 19.99 and the msrp for exclusive TR Deluxes was 24.99 but that came with an extra head, extra card and collector packaging.

So comparing apples to apples, there seems to be 0 times the MSRP of an exclusive was more simply because it was an exclusive.

MSRP for TR Deluxes were $19.99?? I never saw anyone sell those at that price except for BBTS, which of course was a markup. I know all TLK deluxes were $19.99 because that's when prices started to increase. Its hilarious now one of my local Walmarts is clearancing them at $7 and they are selling finally. Even at that price though, I would not purchase one of those pieces of plastic molded garbage.

o.supreme wrote:MSRP for TR Deluxes were $19.99?? I never saw anyone sell those at that price except for BBTS, which of course was a markup. I know all TLK deluxes were $19.99 because that's when prices started to increase.

I thought they were, hence why I found the price for Arcee and Grotusque fair. It could be I am wrong. But in any case, coparing a standard TR deluxe to one that came with more like Arcee and Grotusque is not comparing apples to apples. The real examples we have are he RID Warriors that were TRU exclusive, the TLK deluxes that were TRU exclusive and the 3 Combiner Wars exclusive deluxes and in all those cases they were the same MSRP.

Cyrano wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:So it's not getting a higher price for an exclusive then? Intriguing

Has it ever happened in the US that an exclusive was more expensive than non exclusive toys in the same line?

The only time an exclusive deluxe was more expensive was because it came with more stuff, like TR ARcee wth extra Magnus. But the hgher price is because it comes with more stuff, not because its exclusive.

Kinda, at least. As recently as last year TRU was charging $19.99 for Skullitron and flying wing Megatron despite everywhere (in my experience TRU included) going for $16ish on normal TLK deluxes. Also, it seems like a tough argument that Arcee and Grotusque don’t have a markup; sure they come with more, but one Titan Master can’t really be said to be worth the $9 difference when the Titan Master + drone sets are $5.

You hsve to keep in mind produxtion cosrs vs run size. The new toolimg for Arcee's face, shoulders, hood, guns, and spoiler fin was probably $5,000. Remember, that tooling is a solid hunk of metal tempered to withstand the temperature of molten plastic repeatedly and then have the pieces removed. Those tooling costs are on top of standard production costs (minus previous tooling paid for by mainline run), so you are dividing most of that 5 grand across a toy run of what, 1000 toys? Maybe two? Vs a mainline run, which is usually less complex, and a run of 10s of thousands of toys

Interesting... There are, exactly, zero surprises here. It is everything that everyone thought that it would be. I thought that there was, at least, a chance for a Prime Master port on the chest given how long it took.

All the same, he will be hanging out with, Inferno, I guess...

Someone please remind me, can this Deluxe robot mode ride on the motorcycle mode of this mold?

Nothing impressive to call him wreck gar new head to figure and repaint him is nothing to special

Targetmaster Kup wrote:Someone please remind me, can this Deluxe robot mode ride on the motorcycle mode of this mold?