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Really glad I got my Jazz from wave 1 with the MAGA tampo. Sad that its such a big deal it even needed to be changed. Now wheres my Optimus Primal?

"Hasbro feels the need to censor my decals because of their own biases and need to pander to a select group of fans. Sad!" -Jazz.

All sh!tposting aside, I wonder if this would have happened if the decal read BLM or Antifa?

Black Hat wrote:"Hasbro feels the need to censor my decals because of their own biases and need to pander to a select group of fans. Sad!" -Jazz.

All sh!tposting aside, I wonder if this would have happened if the decal read BLM or Antifa?

Trust me, someone will complain. It's inevitable even with the most obscure, thanks to the internet.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Black Hat wrote:"Hasbro feels the need to censor my decals because of their own biases and need to pander to a select group of fans. Sad!" -Jazz.

All sh!tposting aside, I wonder if this would have happened if the decal read BLM or Antifa?

Trust me, someone will complain. It's inevitable even with the most obscure, thanks to the internet.

The question wouldn't be if people would complain but would Hasbro change it because of complaints. I doubt they would though, as we've been seeing all over a very obvious double standard.

Now that being said, I don't care about Jazz, I want my freaking 2nd wavers to show up!

i think they shouldve fixed the quality of the product itself, rather than worry about this. priorities people. the plastic used for jazz is so brittle, it breaks very easily. thats the problem that shouldve been fixed. i have the 1st rendition, doesnt bother me one bit. nor have i heard of someone not buying the figure because of the MAGA thing. hasbro is trying to appease an overly sensitive crowd, that in my eyes, doesnt even exists within the collecting community. lets not forget it was the liberal media that slandered this slogan, turned it in to something that it wasnt.
making america great again, stood for less govt control, bringing jobs back, and a fair healthcare system, etc. whats wrong with that? nothing.

Rodimus Knight wrote:Now that being said, I don't care about Jazz, I want my freaking 2nd wavers to show up!

Exactly Target is having a pretty good toy sale, and seems to be ramping up their stock to support it. There are plenty of studio series, and for some unknown reason, NEW stock of old RID figures coming in. Also plenty of new stock of PotP wave 1...So frustrating that a Target store about 3 hours south of me gets wave 3, and the stores in my area are getting more wave 1... (I know it's wave 1 because New Starscreams and Grimlocks)

On the flip side, this would have been a dream for collectors of Leader Class, They had all 3 (OP, RP, and RU) as well as SS Grimlock and Blackout, and even a couple left over Leader Megatron's from TLK all in stock at the same time, at the same store! (6 different leaders from 3 different lines I haven't seen that in recent memory)...plenty of the toys I don't want

Maybe they think completists will buy both versions.

Moonshot wrote:So far Ive only bought Jazz, Phoenix, WIndchager and Metalhawk. What Im really waiting for and excited about is wave 3. All the Pretenders and Primal in wave 3 have me pumped, nothing left in wave 2 I want. I was in High School during Beast Wars so collecting Transformers was the last thing on my mind. New molds of Beast Wars characters are always welcomed.

Who is Phoenix?

Wolfman Jake wrote:Who is Phoenix?

Wolverine Phoenix Is the name of Cloudburst in the Japanese Masterforce series.

Hey all!
Just a friendly reminder to keep the conversation about the Jazz thing to as it pertains to the toy. All are welcome to their political perspectives, but this is really not the place to discuss it.

And on that note:
I doubt Hasbro has any desire to pander to either side. They could probably care less how liberal or conservative our money is. They'd just like to have it. All of it.
They make fun toys for children regardless of who their parents vote for.

Well it appears that the last 4 PotP toys releases are available for preorder on BBTS, estimated release -end of November:

PP-37 Megatornus
PP-38 Outback
PP-39 Cindesaur
PP-40 Rodimus Unicronus

So...who wants to wager if all of PotP will be fully saturated in before by the end of November?

Also, Will *exclusives* such as Nemesis Prime, Wreck-Gar, Counter Punch & repugnus get releases by , or will these perhaps be excusives for thenm as well, or not released at all?

What about the 3 remaining Prime masters and perhaps any additional product we have not seen yet?

Just some of the burning questions I have as I await PotP Wave 2 Prime Masters, to show up ever, and Wave 2 deluxes to show up again other than the one time I saw them.

o.supreme wrote:

Rodimus Knight wrote:Now that being said, I don't care about Jazz, I want my freaking 2nd wavers to show up!

Exactly Target is having a pretty good toy sale, and seems to be ramping up their stock to support it. There are plenty of studio series, and for some unknown reason, NEW stock of old RID figures coming in. Also plenty of new stock of PotP wave 1...So frustrating that a Target store about 3 hours south of me gets wave 3, and the stores in my area are getting more wave 1... (I know it's wave 1 because New Starscreams and Grimlocks)

On the flip side, this would have been a dream for collectors of Leader Class, They had all 3 (OP, RP, and RU) as well as SS Grimlock and Blackout, and even a couple left over Leader Megatron's from TLK all in stock at the same time, at the same store! (6 different leaders from 3 different lines I haven't seen that in recent memory)...plenty of the toys I don't want

Man, you've seen RU show up at the stores... Dang you... I only saw him once at a comic convention. I would really like to be able to get him at a reasonable price.

william-james88 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Moonshot wrote:So far Ive only bought Jazz, Phoenix, WIndchager and Metalhawk. What Im really waiting for and excited about is wave 3. All the Pretenders and Primal in wave 3 have me pumped, nothing left in wave 2 I want. I was in High School during Beast Wars so collecting Transformers was the last thing on my mind. New molds of Beast Wars characters are always welcomed.

Who is Phoenix?

Objection

Only ones left on my definite buy list are the new Wreck-Gar and Novastar. I'm pretty susceptible to impulse buying, though...bwahahaha...

Cobotron wrote:Hey all!
Just a friendly reminder to keep the conversation about the Jazz thing to as it pertains to the toy. All are welcome to their political perspectives, but this is really not the place to discuss it.

And on that note:
I doubt Hasbro has any desire to pander to either side. They could probably care less how liberal or conservative our money is. They'd just like to have it. All of it.
They make fun toys for children regardless of who their parents vote for.

This. So much this.

As for wave saturation, living in the UK, we get one or two max. So shopping online is normally my default anyway. Welcome to how tf fans in the UK feel.

Also via Singaporean fan of the Seibertron.com community Daniel Oon, and linking to another video review from the Transformers Power of the Primes by YouTube toy reviewer Kevin Liu, we have our first full look in a clip at the Leader class fan voted figure of Evolution Optimal Optimus, with Optimus Primal smaller robot!

The video, embedded below, shows off the beast and robot mode for the larger figure, plus the robot and 'vehicle' mode for the smaller munkky character, and some of the combination options between the two, including the Matrix accessory that comes with the set. Check it out below, and join the discussion in the Energon Pub - is this a figure that scratches that Beast Wars itch?

I'm not sure why, but after watching that video all of the hollow areas on Optimal Optimus really bother me. I know why they are there, monies. And it's not like other figures don't have it. But it really bothers me on him..

Rodimus Knight wrote:Now that being said, I don't care about Jazz, I want my freaking 2nd wavers to show up!

This why we can't have wave 2 people!

They gotta start over. More wave 1 cases are on their way!

I'm not completely sold on the Optimal gorilla form, but the Optimus Primal figure looks fantastic, I can't wait until I get my hands on one! On a side note, I love that piano version of Jablonsky's Autobot theme in the video.

o.supreme wrote:Also, Will *exclusives* such as Nemesis Prime, Wreck-Gar, Counter Punch & repugnus get releases by , or will these perhaps be excusives for thenm as well, or not released at all?

Unless I'm totally forgetting it, Japan isn't getting the exclusive Studio Series Thundercracker in another line that's basically Hasbro's same figures, though they're putting a bit more effort into the packaging. That might mean exclusives aren't part of the sharing deal.

I could see Nemesis Prime showing up on Takara Tomy Mall or TRU Japan as a "USA Edition", but not the others.

Emerje

While the Optimal Optimus figure looks rather good for what it is and what they had to work with, and with the gimmick integrated as well, the vehicle mode for Primal by himself is absolutely lazy.

So far only Hot Rod/Nemesis Hot Rod (Rodimus Cron?) has a competent vehicle mode by himself, not even Optimus Prime can claim that fame.

I was already pretty sure that the black figure serves no purpose for combining, but this picture confirms it. After seeing this, I am SO tempted to just punch out that pin and have two Optimals on display.

Lucky Logician wrote:I was already pretty sure that the black figure serves no purpose for combining, but this picture confirms it. After seeing this, I am SO tempted to just punch out that pin and have two Optimals on display.

Hey, maybe a 3P company will make a kit that will conect the head/chest to the rest of the large Primal and gorila parts for the Small Primal.