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News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:54 pm

mordhelm wrote:So right now the Select Series would help round out Elita-Inf1nite for me. I would move Jazz and Ricochet to Elita, and Red Swoop would go with Firestormer. I kind of hope this Select Series pans out and throws a few more Combiner limbs our way in general. 4 more decepticons, and maybe give us some more 84/85 cars.

Nice! I keep forgetting how cool a name like "Firestormer" is, but I still like "Infernocus" I need a cooler one for my Lost Light guys, but no inspiration yet.

I feel that ricochet is totally logical too since in the deluxe department I think Jazz was the only one to not share any tooling with another figure in the line. All the beasts were kind of related, and then there was the Dreadwing bros as aerialbots and the ladies. Jazz is entirely unique with regards to CW/PotP limb bots in tooling and transformation.

by **RiddlerJ** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:51 pm

o.supreme wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
mordhelm wrote:Just curious how it is going to throw your combiners off? Did you miss some figures? Or collect TFSS or UW variants too?

Just wondering because if you collected all the mass release figures (including exclusives) until now, you should have "full" teams of Decepticons (multiples of 4) and 2 spare Autobots (right now Rook and Alpha Bravo for me).

I'll list mine off here:

I know you didn't ask, but I'll list my "Grand Plan", for 30 unique combiners. Keep in mind I don't have all of these, but I have most. Also ALL have a 6th legends class member (except Devastator and Predaking), which I wont list at this time, just for simplicity sake.

"Heroic Combiners"
1. Superion (UW01)
2. Defensor (UW03)
3. Convoy Grand Prime (UW05)
4. Optimus Maximus (CW Battle Core Optimus Prime, Alpha Bravo, Smokescreen, G2 Ratchet & (missing 1))
5. Victiorion (CW Box Set)
6. Wreckage (TFSS 5.0 & 6.0)
7. Mangaboss (BC2016)
8. Betatron (CW Computron Box Set)
9. Computron (UW08)
10.Lynxmaster (UWEX)
11.G2 Superion (CW Box Set)
12.Modulus
13.Volcanicus
14.Elita-Infin1te (Elita-1, Moonracer, Novaster & (missing 2))
15.Infernac (Inferno, Jazz, Wreck-Gar, Riccochet & (missing 1)

"Evil Combiners"
1. Menasor (UW02)
2. Devastator (UW04)
3. Grand Galvatron (UW06)
4. Bruticus (UW07)
5. Grand Scourge (UW EX Grand Scourge, Offroad, SG Ratchet, CW Blastoff, CW Vortex)
6. Megatronia (UWEX)
7. Baldigus (UW EX)
8. Thunder Mayhem (TFCC 5.0)
9. Predacus (BC2016)
10.LioKaiser (CW Box Set)
11.G2 Menasor (CW Box Set)
12.G2 Bruticus (CW Box Set)
13.Predaking (PotP Box Set)
14.Abominus
15.King Starscream (PotP Starscresm, Dreadwind, Blackwing, BC2016 Terrorsaur & GL Starscream renamed "Sunstorm")

This plan successfully integrates every truly unique combiner used thus far from this system, however as you can see, there are 4 heroic missing deluxes to attain the symmetry I desire.

If it helps anyone, you can always think of the extra torso bots the same way as the extra limbs bots, as auxiliary members.

Like Rook and Alpha Bravo are additional members of their teams, Inferno and Starscream could also be extra members. If Hot Spot or Onslaught go down in battle, these two could form the center and still complete Defensor and Bruticus. That's why their supposed gestalts weren't given a name. Because they don't form a new robot, they're a backup member of an existing combiner.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:30 pm

Speaking of auxiliary members... Wildfly for Abominus.

*quickly hides*

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:37 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Speaking of auxiliary members... Wildfly for Abominus.

*quickly hides*

Much like Computron, I am still holding out hope for a boxset Monstructor. It may take a while, but hopefully we will be rewarded again

News Credits: 48 · by **Nemesis Primal** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:01 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Speaking of auxiliary members... Wildfly for Abominus.

*quickly hides*

Much like Computron, I am still holding out hope for a boxset Monstructor. It may take a while, but hopefully we will be rewarded again

I mean, we know at least some of the tooling exists, given the Wildfly head and the Bristleback guns we saw with Hascon/NYCC samples, so it should happen at some point. I can get Hasbro not releasing a bunch of combiner limb repaints of previously non-combiner characters (even if I want them to), but skipping a whole combiner who hasn't been updated since G1 would be a seriously questionable decision on their part, especially given the ceaseless G1 focus with their current product releases.

by **Ultra Markus** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:53 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:(...) and how many other previously unreleased PotP tooling remnants are going to see show up in this "Select Series"?

WAVERIDER!!!

i hope we get a thundercracker and skywarp repaint from any jet combinerwars limbs for POTP starscream

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:56 pm

You're right Wolfman Jake, I was forgetting that. Because you said "two" and so my mind kinda went to the larger ones. #-o

That said, Metalhawk doesn't have a US counterpart that's just the same thing in different colors with no mold tweaks. (I notice we haven't had a Minerva or Goshooter or Ranger). If it came down to it, I would prefer Hydra and Buster to get the LGEX treatment. Because hopefully their combined mode could get some much-needed improvement.

Has anyone photographed Volcanicus with Landfill yet?

Nemesis Primal wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Speaking of auxiliary members... Wildfly for Abominus.

*quickly hides*

Much like Computron, I am still holding out hope for a boxset Monstructor. It may take a while, but hopefully we will be rewarded again

I mean, we know at least some of the tooling exists, given the Wildfly head and the Bristleback guns we saw with Hascon/NYCC samples, so it should happen at some point. I can get Hasbro not releasing a bunch of combiner limb repaints of previously non-combiner characters (even if I want them to), but skipping a whole combiner who hasn't been updated since G1 would be a seriously questionable decision on their part, especially given the ceaseless G1 focus with their current product releases.

Monstructor might be held up by debate over how to handle his torso. He is a G1 Combiner, but he's a six-member one like Devastator, Raiden, and Liokaiser (Piracon/King Poseidon don't fully count because the 6th is a weapon). So, what do they do? Work hard to develop a Deluxe Slog and Birdbrain who can form a torso for CW-style limbs? Shoehorn him into being a five-member one like they did with Liokaiser? And if so, does Slog get made the torso or does Birdbrain?

Given that the Combiner Wars combination scheme is an update of the "Scramble City" style from G1, the combiner team I think it would be really dumb to skip is the Seacons. Rippersnapper's mold could be used for Overbite and possibly Skalor/Gulf as well, and hopefully Snaptrap/Turtler is indeed Hun-Gurr's alternate as people speculate.

News Credits: 48 · by **Nemesis Primal** » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:50 pm

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Given that the Combiner Wars combination scheme is an update of the "Scramble City" style from G1, the combiner team I think it would be really dumb to skip is the Seacons. Rippersnapper's mold could be used for Overbite and possibly Skalor/Gulf as well, and hopefully Snaptrap/Turtler is indeed Hun-Gurr's alternate as people speculate.

Oh believe me, I not only agree with this but also would be much more excited for a new Piranacon than a new Monstructor. But since we have much more proof of a planned Monstructor than a new Piranacon, I figured I wouldn't add him to the current conversation.

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:06 pm

I REALLY REALLY want both Piranacon, and Monstructor. But hey I want a Raiden, a Dinoking, Roadcaesar and Landcross as well...

But Monstructor holds a special place because I believe the original toy was way too small. Of course I know this was for the sake of practicality, and a problem with all pretenders. If you look at 3P FP Surus-Ryu-Oh (Dinoking) and Beastructor (Monstructor), and the pretender molds they made for both the Dino and monster versions, they are just huge rubbery bricks, but are way too expensive and impractical IMHO, which I'm glad they developed them completely separately.

I would just love for a box set inspired by IDW's take on Monstructor (something I dont often say), no pretender shells needed, also I'd love for him to be sized similar to Devastator & Predaking (45cm/18 inches) something else I don't often say. Also if I knew it was going to be the Titan toy for 2021, (the 3rd part of the current Trilogy), I'd be willing to wait for it.

In IDW Monstructor had a past battle with Omega Supreme, so making him Omega's ancient Rival (as opposed to Devastator being Omega's current one) makes sense to me, have to scale him up to size.

IN any case, the announcement of these "PotP Select" gives me some hope, where before there was none.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:31 pm

I'm down for another swoop to make for proportionate arms, and if it looks cool enough, I'll go for ricochet too

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:07 pm

And thanks to Cobotron, my PotP collection is complete!!

...unless those select guys turn out to be true. then we are in a whole other boat of figuring stuff out.

anyways, here is INFERNOCUS!

EDIT: somehow the first combined form didn't make it on here :oops:

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:44 pm

Ya know, despite me saying that the Moonracer mold doesn't make a great leg, it's not too bad here

News Credits: 437 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:46 pm

Thems some slender legs he's got there.

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:03 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Thems some slender legs he's got there.

They are! But they're about the same as Wreck Gar and the helicoptor dudes. It's not bad! Tomorrow, i will try this configuration on Elita, though I far prefer her as her own figure. Same with Inferno, but he's a Defensor torso that I love, and Elita is perfect in robot mode.

Also, i edited my post 3 posts ago since somehow the first combined mode image didn't make it to that post :oops:

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:10 am

Has anyone else had issues either with Jazz as a leg, or with Inferno's Prime Armor feet being extremely loose? When I have Jazz as a leg I cant even lift the combiner his foot falls right off. :BANG_HEAD:

News Credits: 42 · by **TF-fan kev777** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:32 am

o.supreme wrote:Has anyone else had issues either with Jazz as a leg, or with Inferno's Prime Armor feet being extremely loose? When I have Jazz as a leg I cant even lift the combiner his foot falls right off.

I think it may be more Jazz than the foot. I have Jazz as a leg on Optimus Maximus borrowing Prowl's HFG and it is also pretty loose, not falling off, but close.

For those curious, I moved Jazz to Optimus Maximus, so that I could move prowl to Inferno/Firestormer. I have UW Lynx Master with CW Smokescreen replacing Ratchet and Ratchet also going to Inferno along with Alpha Bravo and Rook to have all white rescue/emergency limbs.

Inferno's feet work just fine with Prowl and Alpha Bravo, so I think the issue may be with Jazz instead of the feet.

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:39 am

TF-fan kev777 wrote: so I think the issue may be with Jazz instead of the feet.

Thanks Good to know. This makes sense as Jazz seemed to work as an arm, I plan to have Jazz as an arm eventually. Jazz and Riccochet will be Inferno's arm's just need another deluxe to come out so I can have another stable leg.

Also Op Op back in stock at HTS https://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/en/htsusa/-e0904as00

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:52 pm

Ya know what, Elita wears these guys pretty dang good!

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:30 pm

o.supreme wrote:Has anyone else had issues either with Jazz as a leg, or with Inferno's Prime Armor feet being extremely loose? When I have Jazz as a leg I cant even lift the combiner his foot falls right off.

I've got two PotP Jazz figures. For one of them, the foot holds VERY loosely, as it does for you. The foot piece almost spins around freely when pegged into that hole. The slightest jostle will make it fall out. On my other figure, the fit between the peg on the foot and the hole in the back of the car mode is MUCH more secure. I think it's just a "your mileage may vary" kind of QC issue, unfortunately. Put a little scrap of paper in the hole for the foot before you peg it in, specifically such that the paper lays against the cylindrical wall of the hole. That should help tighten up that connection without permanently altering either your figure or the foot piece.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:10 am

Wolfman Jake wrote:
o.supreme wrote:Has anyone else had issues either with Jazz as a leg, or with Inferno's Prime Armor feet being extremely loose? When I have Jazz as a leg I cant even lift the combiner his foot falls right off.

I've got two PotP Jazz figures. For one of them, the foot holds VERY loosely, as it does for you. The foot piece almost spins around freely when pegged into that hole. The slightest jostle will make it fall out. On my other figure, the fit between the peg on the foot and the hole in the back of the car mode is MUCH more secure. I think it's just a "your mileage may vary" kind of QC issue, unfortunately. Put a little scrap of paper in the hole for the foot before you peg it in, specifically such that the paper lays against the cylindrical wall of the hole. That should help tighten up that connection without permanently altering either your figure or the foot piece.

Out of curiousity, pre- or post-MAGA?

News Credits: 3 · by **bodrock** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:41 am

My Target didn't get any Siege, but more PotP Leaders -- including Optimal!

I finally opened up my Punch/Counterpunch....love him!

News Credits: 48 · by **Nemesis Primal** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:49 am

bodrock wrote:My Target didn't get any Siege, but more PotP Leaders -- including Optimal!

!!!!!!!!!!!! :DANCE:

News Credits: 4499 · by **william-james88** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:11 am

bodrock wrote:My Target didn't get any Siege, but more PotP Leaders -- including Optimal!
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I finally opened up my Punch/Counterpunch....love him!
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How much was he and where are you located?

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:29 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
o.supreme wrote:Has anyone else had issues either with Jazz as a leg, or with Inferno's Prime Armor feet being extremely loose? When I have Jazz as a leg I cant even lift the combiner his foot falls right off.

I've got two PotP Jazz figures. For one of them, the foot holds VERY loosely, as it does for you. The foot piece almost spins around freely when pegged into that hole. The slightest jostle will make it fall out. On my other figure, the fit between the peg on the foot and the hole in the back of the car mode is MUCH more secure. I think it's just a "your mileage may vary" kind of QC issue, unfortunately. Put a little scrap of paper in the hole for the foot before you peg it in, specifically such that the paper lays against the cylindrical wall of the hole. That should help tighten up that connection without permanently altering either your figure or the foot piece.

Out of curiousity, pre- or post-MAGA?

Both are without the "MAGA" tampograph.