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Qwan wrote:Naturally, the answer to the first question - "do you have any Transformers stock that isn't on the shelves" - was the stock-standard everything-we-have-goes-straight-onto-the-shelves

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Got a Swoop from my local Target tonight! Guy went in the back and got him for me. Can’t wait to open him!

What a crazy world we live in?!

We have seen the majority of Transformers Power of the Primes wave 1's stock images back in this news post here, and the deluxes from the wave are now showing up in stores across the US. But to complement our previous story on Rodimus Unicronus (which may look like a Shattered Glass Rodimus, but is in fact a corrupt version of Rodimus, imbued with Unicron's influence through a dark Matrix of sorts - the Matrix of Chaos), we now have some clear stock images via Toys'R'Us.ca and fellow Seibertronian ToxicSmoke!

You can check out the mustachioed evolved Leader class version, plus Nemesis Hot Rod, the smaller Deluxe robot/car, plus the purple Autobot symbol all over the paintjob - still not fully clarifying which of the two shields the figure will be wearing as a final product. Check it out!

You know, its really going to be weird if this line lacks any big and powerful Leader-class villains especially after just how many we got in Titans Return (Sixshot, Black Shadow and Overlord as well as the out-of-scale Leader Soundwave). Yet comparatively so far its been frankly anemic when it come to Leader-class villains, with only a (admittedly cool-looking) black repaint of Hot Rod/Rodomus. Or is this going to be a mostly-Autobots line for Leader-class figures whereas Titans Return had a lot of Decepticons?

It's just not like Hasbro to not release a Megatron in this line. Its kind of a requirement at this point. Like I know he already had a Leader-class figure in CW, a Voyager (as the Blitzwing pretool) in TR (or two if you technically count Galvatron). I know people don't need a new Megatron so soon but its just weird to not have any major lead villain revealed as a big toy. All we got so far is a new Starscream.

Unless we do get Star Saber as a Leader-class with Thunderwing as his pretool. That would be so damn cool.

To everyone who has a problem with Rodimus Unicronus being an evil Autobot, did you have the same issue with DOTM Sentinel Prime's toys? He was the main antagonist in that movie, so all his toys represented a bad guy Autobot. What harm does this one do that DOTM Sentinel's toys didn't do, especially when this Rodimus Unicronus is still supposed to be the same guy as the normal Rodimus Prime instead of a doppelganger?

And the hunt is on! Hopefully these will hit the East Coast by New Year's, but you can never trust distribution these days.
I love the powermaster homage with Dreadwind's armor. They even molded Hi-Test's hip joints!

Also, I have a theory about the leader class. There may only be three new molds per line. CW had Jetfire (released in T30, but could have been designed with the others), Megatron, and Ultra Magnus. TR had Blaster, Sixshot, and Overlord. We've seen three new molds for POTP.... uh oh. Hopefully I'm wrong and we get a Star Saber/Thunderwing after all, but it's looking a little dicey.

Latebrus-K wrote:And the hunt is on! Hopefully these will hit the East Coast by New Year's, but you can never trust distribution these days.
I love the powermaster homage with Dreadwind's armor. They even molded Hi-Test's hip joints!

Also, I have a theory about the leader class. There may only be three new molds per line. CW had Jetfire (released in T30, but could have been designed with the others), Megatron, and Ultra Magnus. TR had Blaster, Sixshot, and Overlord. We've seen three new molds for POTP.... uh oh. Hopefully I'm wrong and we get a Star Saber/Thunderwing after all, but it's looking a little dicey.

Retools from earlier lines still count towards the total budget (Starscream, Powermaster Optimus Prime). We got Optimus, Rodimus and Primal for new molds, but retools we know nothing about.

Latebrus-K wrote:Also, I have a theory about the leader class. There may only be three new molds per line. CW had Jetfire (released in T30, but could have been designed with the others), Megatron, and Ultra Magnus. TR had Blaster, Sixshot, and Overlord. We've seen three new molds for POTP.... uh oh. Hopefully I'm wrong and we get a Star Saber/Thunderwing after all, but it's looking a little dicey.

Crap, you're right. But then again, we might seem some serious retooling at works. There is also the distinct possibility that the share engineering between the two previous lines allow allow for more character variation.

It may very well be possible for a previous Leader class figure to get some MASSIVE retooling into something else. If not, oh well. Guess we're not seeing Star Saber, Thunderwing or Deathsaurus any time soon.

...Maybe next line?

Sabrblade wrote:To everyone who has a problem with Rodimus Unicronus being an evil Autobot, did you have the same issue with DOTM Sentinel Prime's toys? He was the main antagonist in that movie, so all his toys represented a bad guy Autobot. What harm does this one do that DOTM Sentinel's toys didn't do, especially when this Rodimus Unicronus is still supposed to be the same guy as the normal Rodimus Prime instead of a doppelganger?

I like Rodimus Unicronus, and might buy both colors of him and Prime, though I like Unicronus better.

As far as DOTM Sentinel goes, part of that was to throw us off of his character in the movie, to not spoil us with the fact he was a villain... though I don't mind the trick there either... only part I did mind was that they didn't make a leader Megatron too!

Sabrblade wrote:To everyone who has a problem with Rodimus Unicronus being an evil Autobot, did you have the same issue with DOTM Sentinel Prime's toys? He was the main antagonist in that movie, so all his toys represented a bad guy Autobot. What harm does this one do that DOTM Sentinel's toys didn't do, especially when this Rodimus Unicronus is still supposed to be the same guy as the normal Rodimus Prime instead of a doppelganger?

I did have the same issue DOTM Sentinel.

I'm a toy-first collector, and so- if he has a Shattered Glass Autobot Symbol he will be on an Autobot shelf. Just like my Collectors club combiner-Starscream.

I was bummed that he had SG-colors instead of MP-09B colors, but it's still close I can look past it. But, as someone that is endlessly upset by the vastly imbalanced Autobot-to-Decepticon ratio, I was still hoping for a .

Still going to get it, though.

Do we know for sure that Rodimus Unicronus won't come with a Decepticon sticker sheet sort of like CW Megatron?

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Do we know for sure that Rodimus Unicronus won't come with a Decepticon sticker sheet sort of like CW Megatron?

Emerje

We do not, which is why I pointed out in the story that we still have no clarification.

Va'al wrote:

Emerje wrote:Do we know for sure that Rodimus Unicronus won't come with a Decepticon sticker sheet sort of like CW Megatron?

Emerje

We do not, which is why I pointed out in the story that we still have no clarification.

I read it, but the new images confuse things even more:

Check it out, purple Autobot symbol on the front, Decepticon symbol on the side. Seems pretty likely to me that stickers will be included and someone accidentally mixed them, but I guess we'll know in a few months.

Emerje

o.supreme wrote:1. Sludge is a Brontosaurus, not a Brachiosaurus (man as a kid who grew up in the 80's it feels good to say that name again)

The Brontosaurus is still a real dinosaur

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brontosaurus

Cobotron wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:There, I said it, I've still got movie bee and slash and wave 3 (hotrod/doublecross) chillin warmin up my town :

You know, I don't think it's wave 3 that's loitering, it's that damn revision wave that had Hotrod, Twinferno, and who ever else that everyone already bought that is the culprit. For the last 4 weeks the 3 Targets I frequent, have each had 4 Twinfernos and nothing else. It's driving me nuts. I NEED SOME TWIN TWIST DAM MOTT!

while I cant speak for the hot rods, what cobotron is seeing is definitely the revision wave. I will make a news post about it since I see a lot of confusion. Its actually new (not that anyone wanted it)
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ion/39261/

Qwan wrote:So to help quell my self-righteous anger, I ask you, boardspeople - can someone with retail experience explain why it might be against policy for them to do that? I'm sure there's a reason, I just don't know it yet, and when I don't know things I get grouchy

There is a reason and its a good one too, its not part of their job. They will not keep a record of who wants what and call if ever something is found, especially when they could simply put in on the shelf and potentially have someone buy it right away instead of seeing it in a truck, then checking to see who wanted it, then calling the person to see if they still want it, and then put it aside until that person comes. Its just really not worth it and doing it once would cause a precedent. So making it a policy is a way to avoid that and maximizing their time especially since all stores are usually understaffed.

Not a happy answer, but I hope it sheds some light

Va'al wrote:Are you hungry (hun-gurry?) for more Transformers: Power of the Primes news?

That damn nearly killed me

william-james88 wrote:while I cant speak for the hot rods, what cobotron is seeing is definitely the revision wave. I will make a news post about it since I see a lot of confusion. Its actually new (not that anyone wanted it)
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ion/39261/

Aww man, I'd kill for that wave to freshen things up near me, no, I put some stock out a month ago and it was the legit wave 1('17) figures: hotrod, doublecross, triggerhappy and breakaway. I was so pissed since we had just finished moving that wave from our store which had been there since December of last year

Qwan wrote:So to help quell my self-righteous anger, I ask you, boardspeople - can someone with retail experience explain why it might be against policy for them to do that? I'm sure there's a reason, I just don't know it yet, and when I don't know things I get grouchy

There is a reason and its a good one too, its not part of their job. They will not keep a record of who wants what and call if ever something is found, especially when they could simply put in on the shelf and potentially have someone buy it right away instead of seeing it in a truck, then checking to see who wanted it, then calling the person to see if they still want it, and then put it aside until that person comes. Its just really not worth it and doing it once would cause a precedent. So making it a policy is a way to avoid that and maximizing their time especially since all stores are usually understaffed.

Not a happy answer, but I hope it sheds some light

If you can go somewhere with really nice people and explain things to them, they might make a note, but WJ's spot on with his answer, plus the fact that there's always a million + 1 things to do at a retail store.

While Hasbro had mentioned something along the lines when introducing Power of the Primes, it was never clear exactly what was going on with the cards that came with the Power of the Primes figures. Now with the wave one deluxes being found at US retail, fans have posted the back of the cards and it confirms that there will be more than one specific card for each character. From all the variations we have seen, it seems there will be one for every possible combination of Prime Master and deluxe, though there is currently no photo evidence of every single Prime combined with one specific deluxe. This may prove a real pain for the few collectors out there who have a collector card collection since that could potentially mean twelve cards for each deluxe. Also, it is not just the back that is different, but the front of the car, on the top right side would also show a different Prime symbol depending on the combination.

Below are examples at the diversity of the cards found so far. Some come from the recent Peugh reviews, others from fans like Anguirus and Gallade as well as many others whose sources were tricky to narrow down due to all the reposting, courtesy of this Power of the Primes frenzy. If any image below belongs to you, please let us know and we will give you the proper credit.

For now, here are several different takes on the same four characters, Dreadwind, Slug, Jazz and Swoop. You will notice how each different Prime gives these characters new powers.

So by my count...

Wave 1
Liege Maximo
(w/ Skullgrin Decoy Armor)
Micronus
(w/ Cloudburst Decoy Armor)
Vector Prime
(w/ Metalhawk Decoy Armor)

Wave 2
Alchemist Prime
(w/ Submarauder Decoy Armor)
Alpha Trion
(w/ Landmine Decoy Armor)

Future waves

Prima
(w/ Sky High Decoy Armor)
Nexus Prime
(w/ Splashdown Decoy Armor)
Solus Prime
(w/ Groundbreaker Decoy Armor)
Amalgamous Prime
(w/ Bugly Decoy Armor)
Quintus Prime
(w/ Finback Decoy Armor)
Onyx Prime
(w/ Iguanus Decoy Armor)
Megatronus
(w/ Bomb-Burst Decoy Armor)

NOTE: I only theorize about the pairings, but given there are 12 Primes (omitting Optimus/the Arisen, because that seems like a doubtful release) and 12 original Pretenders, this lineup isn't too far out of the question.

Oh god...you know there’s gonna be that one guy that just starts grabbing everything so he can have every card for characters...

I can hear ScottyP's screams into the empty card collector folders now.

If anybody knows how to read the Cybertronian font, I think we just got the names of the Waves 4-6 Prime Masters on the dials of those cards.

Hasbro revealed with their Transformers Power of the Primes product descriptions that the SRPs for the line were going to follow the price hike seen in the Transformers: The Last Knight toyline. The price hike wasn't felt too badly in the US due to there being a healthy competition in the toy market and stores like Walmart not changing their established price points from previous lines, along with the fact that the price hike in USD was not as egregious as, say, 30-100%. However, in other countries, like Australia and Canada, the price hike was massive, and felt throughout the fan community of these respective countries. For instance, Canada's price for deluxes went from $20 to $30 which is a 50% increase in price (This also comes to show how having fewer competitors in a market can wreak havoc for consumers.)

So the fact that Hasbro's SRPs for the Power of the Primes line was showing the same SRP as the Last Knight toyline was alarming. Thanks to the very first listings from a big box retailer, on Toysrus.ca, we now know that the Power of the Primes toys will not be following the price hike for the Transformers: The Last Knight toyline. They will instead keep their $20 for deluxe, $30 for voyager and $60 for leader price points which sure beat the respective $30, $40, $75 price points for the current movie line (all prices in $CAD of course).

What is interesting to see here is that this may indicate that the price hike may not have had a positive impact on toy sales and thus lowered. We already saw signs of this when both Walmart and Toysrus, the only big box toy retailers in Canada, lowered their prices for the TLK toys at the same time to better fit the prices of previous lines. It is unknown if that means Hasbro is still selling them at the same unit price as previous lines or at a higher price (accounting for their higher SRP) but retailers choosing to sell for less, which is the case with deluxes in the US at the moment. We still do not know how the US SRP will be reflected in other countries who had a major price hike with the movie toys.

Also, the listings give us the SKN numbers for three different classes:

Leader: 368657
Voyager: 368655
Deluxe: 368652

This can come very handy when asking if a toy from this particular line is in stock.

Madeus Prime wrote:So by my count...

Wave 1
Liege Maximo
(w/ Skullgrin Decoy Armor)
Micronus
(w/ Cloudburst Decoy Armor)
Vector Prime
(w/ Metalhawk Decoy Armor)

Wave 2
Alchemist Prime
(w/ Submarauder Decoy Armor)
Alpha Trion
(w/ Landmine Decoy Armor)

Future waves

Prima
(w/ Sky High Decoy Armor)
Nexus Prime
(w/ Splashdown Decoy Armor)
Solus Prime
(w/ Groundbreaker Decoy Armor)
Amalgamous Prime
(w/ Bugly Decoy Armor)
Quintus Prime
(w/ Finback Decoy Armor)
Onyx Prime
(w/ Iguanus Decoy Armor)
Megatronus
(w/ Bomb-Burst Decoy Armor)

NOTE: I only theorize about the pairings, but given there are 12 Primes (omitting Optimus/the Arisen, because that seems like a doubtful release) and 12 original Pretenders, this lineup isn't too far out of the question.

Not all 12 original Pretenders will be used, only the first wave it looks like. The leaks have shown the likes of Octopunch and Bludgeon, so the smaller ones are fair game too.

RodimusRex wrote:If anybody knows how to read the Cybertronian font, I think we just got the names of the Waves 4-6 Prime Masters on the dials of those cards.

The language is all on the wiki just look it up

Va'al wrote:I can hear ScottyP's screams into the empty card collector folders now.

I can hear Megatronus joining him in agony

Madeus Prime wrote:NOTE: I only theorize about the pairings, but given there are 12 Primes (omitting Optimus/the Arisen, because that seems like a doubtful release) and 12 original Pretenders, this lineup isn't too far out of the question.

Here is wave 3

Quintus Prime and Bludgeon Decoy Armor, Megatronus and Bomb-Burst Decoy Armor, Solus Prime and Octopunch Decoy Armor

You can check this post for all the info on everything we know https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... nts/39844/

Who wants more Power of the Primes in hand images? Well, the internet is bursting with them but two fans, Gallade and Anguirus have provided short pictorial reviews of Swoop and Slug respectively. What they show, which is something we did not see in today's video reviews, their limb modes. These two fans show Swoop and Slug in full on scramble city mode teamed up with Combiner Wars toys. Also, unlike the previous set of in hand images of them combined, these do not use add on kits so you can see how they look with the feet that came with the Combiner Wars figures (since the Power of the Primes feet only come with the voyagers and they aren't out yet). One other cool aspect is that we have confirmation of Titan Master ports on these toys, specifically Swoop with a fun image below.
So far these toys have been found only at Target and sightings seem to be spreading across the country. Let us know if you find one near you in our sightings section and sightings forum.

william-james88 wrote:Here is wave 3

Quintus Prime and Bludgeon Decoy Armor, Megatronus and Bomb-Burst Decoy Armor, Solus Prime and Octopunch Decoy Armor

You can check this post for all the info on everything we know https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... nts/39844/

I stand corrected, sorry for jumping the gun, I just saw a pattern and thought it fit. I missed out on that blurb.

Still kinda want a Bugly and Finback suit though...