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News Credits: 11 · by **Lore Keeper** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:41 am

I'm really excited for the shuttle mode Blast Off. I own UW Shuttler, and it's such a fantastic figure. I know it's probably hoping for too much, but I really would love to see a G2 version to round out the box set. Inferno is a neat addition, but the lack of a new Combiner head feels lazy and cheap to me. I'm with the people who want a proper G2 Defensor. I would also totally buy a Battle Gaia and Guard City, even if I had to pay Takara prices for them.

News Credits: 11 · by **Lore Keeper** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:44 am

Randomhero wrote:
Clockwork Animations wrote:YAAAAAAY now I don't have to buy the UW Bruticus to get that awesome Blast Off.

This pleases me...

It’s teally not that awesome. It’s kind of the worst proportioned and stable figure out them all and QC issues vary from fine to wtf

I didn't have any qc issues with Shuttler, but maybe I was just lucky. I like the way he looks, but that could be because TT reassembled him to flip his chest and back. The same can easily be done with Blast Off by popping of his arms and swapping them.

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:48 am

Lore Keeper wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
Clockwork Animations wrote:YAAAAAAY now I don't have to buy the UW Bruticus to get that awesome Blast Off.

This pleases me...

It’s teally not that awesome. It’s kind of the worst proportioned and stable figure out them all and QC issues vary from fine to wtf

I didn't have any qc issues with Shuttler, but maybe I was just lucky.

From all reports, Shuttler didn't have any of the QC issues Blast Off had, but that could have been in part due to the retooling done to give Shuttler his backwards torso transformation compared to Blast Off.

News Credits: 3 · by **Randomhero** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:58 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
Clockwork Animations wrote:YAAAAAAY now I don't have to buy the UW Bruticus to get that awesome Blast Off.

This pleases me...

It’s teally not that awesome. It’s kind of the worst proportioned and stable figure out them all and QC issues vary from fine to wtf

I didn't have any qc issues with Shuttler, but maybe I was just lucky.
From all reports, Shuttler didn't have any of the QC issues Blast Off had, but that could have been in part due to the retooling done to give Shuttler his backwards torso transformation compared to Blast Off.

Yeah and Strafe had some of the same QC issues blastoff had. Trust me I own both. If it’s real and they’re gonna use the takara mold the real question is which mold is takara lending out? The old one or the modified one that fixed issues.

by **RustedCross** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:59 am

There was retooling on Shuttler? I honestly thought you simply turned the head around.

News Credits: 11 · by **Targetmaster Kup** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:01 pm

That Blast Off looks so Photoshopped.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:24 pm

RustedCross wrote:There was retooling on Shuttler? I honestly thought you simply turned the head around.

The torso is turned 180 and the arms are switched. But there was a minor functional retool to make the hinge the head is on less prone to popping out. Such tweaks are usually permanent, so we can safely expect Hasbro Shuttle Blast Off to feature it.

Question is, what would anyone do with Jet Blast Off?

News Credits: 13 · by **steals_your_goats** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:34 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
RustedCross wrote:There was retooling on Shuttler? I honestly thought you simply turned the head around.

The torso is turned 180 and the arms are switched. But there was a minor functional retool to make the hinge the head is on less prone to popping out. Such tweaks are usually permanent, so we can safely expect Hasbro Shuttle Blast Off to feature it.

Question is, what would anyone do with Jet Blast Off?

My jet blast off makes up a leg for Grand scourge along with Terrorsaur, Off-road and Hasbro Vortex. I really hope this Blast Off is in toy colors so I can replace Terrorsaur and have a more unified Grand Scourge.

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:35 pm

Randomhero wrote:Yeah and Strafe had some of the same QC issues blastoff had. Trust me I own both. If it’s real and they’re gonna use the takara mold the real question is which mold is takara lending out? The old one or the modified one that fixed issues.

I own both as well, and I only had QC issues with Blastoff, my Strafe is excellent, although to be fair, I got mine only as a result of a quick grab of a pre-order cancellation on BBTS when the item was just being released. Maybe I got a closer-to-end production Computron that had fixed it? Its good to hear about Shuttler though that I wont have any issues once I get Bladigus.

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:38 pm

steals_your_goats wrote:My jet blast off makes up a leg for Grand scourge along with Terrorsaur, Off-road and Hasbro Vortex. I really hope this Blast Off is in toy colors so I can replace Terrorsaur and have a more unified Grand Scourge.

Did you steal my idea, or did we just think exactly the same :-?

. I love my unique outlier combiners, oh wait, its not exactly the same, my Hasbro Blastoff is an arm, as is Hasbro Vortex. Offroad and BC Terrorsaur are the legs to my Grand Scourge

..oh and TAV Runabout is the 6th member.

News Credits: 13 · by **steals_your_goats** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:42 pm

o.supreme wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:My jet blast off makes up a leg for Grand scourge along with Terrorsaur, Off-road and Hasbro Vortex. I really hope this Blast Off is in toy colors so I can replace Terrorsaur and have a more unified Grand Scourge.

Did you steal my idea, or did we just think exactly the same . I love my unique outlier combiners, oh wait, its not exactly the same, my Hasbro Blastoff is an arm, as is Hasbro Vortex. Offroad and BC Terrorsaur are the legs to my Grand Scourge ..oh and TAV Runabout is the 6th member.

Just the same idea lol. I was going to use Runabout as the sixth member but I didn't want to separate him from Runamuck so I'm just ditching the whole 6th member thing across the board. Except for Victorion.

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:55 pm

Yeah, I wanted to keep going with the 6th member thing, it has resulted in some wonky results though :lol:

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Speaking of which. I got Slash yesterday. I challenged my son to come up with something, but there's really not much you can do with her. I may wait until I have Grimlock in hand to see if there is any backpack (ala wreck-gar to Skylynx) fan modding that can be accomplished, otherwise, its just using the tail as a "gun handle" in the hand of a combiner (think Shuffler), it really doesn't look good, but I haven't seen anything else...yet...

News Credits: 3 · by **Randomhero** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:09 pm

o.supreme wrote:Yeah, I wanted to keep going with the 6th member thing, it has resulted in some wonky results though .

Speaking of which. I got Slash yesterday. I challenged my son to come up with something, but there's really not much you can do with her. I may wait until I have Grimlock in hand to see if there is any backpack (ala wreck-gar to Skylynx) fan modding that can be accomplished, otherwise, its just using the tail as a "gun handle" in the hand of a combiner (think Shuffler), it really doesn't look good, but I haven't seen anything else...yet...

Because it’s never been the intention with POTP legend class. They interact with prime masters and that’s it. I don’t understand why some are so adamant to try and shoehorn figures into something when it’s not the intention.

It’s so frustrating when the line was shown and people getting mad that they don’t know how slash merges with the others or why it’s not advertised is baffling. Hasbro never said it would!

News Credits: 14 · by **DecepticonFinishline** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:12 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
RustedCross wrote:There was retooling on Shuttler? I honestly thought you simply turned the head around.

The torso is turned 180 and the arms are switched. But there was a minor functional retool to make the hinge the head is on less prone to popping out. Such tweaks are usually permanent, so we can safely expect Hasbro Shuttle Blast Off to feature it.

Question is, what would anyone do with Jet Blast Off?

Obvious-boring guy (me) is doing the Obvious-boring thing and putting him on Galvatronus. Currently, I have Terrorsaur in the final spot using SG-Starscream's HFG. I would LOVE to replace that, though.

News Credits: 2 · by **Rodimus Knight** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:40 pm

I do want an elita-1 but if they were going to turn Starscream into a female jet, they should have gone with Slipstream.
Besides with her originally being from the G1 cartoon, she should really have been a Land Vehicle

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:51 pm

Randomhero wrote:
o.supreme wrote:Yeah, I wanted to keep going with the 6th member thing, it has resulted in some wonky results though .

Speaking of which. I got Slash yesterday. I challenged my son to come up with something, but there's really not much you can do with her. I may wait until I have Grimlock in hand to see if there is any backpack (ala wreck-gar to Skylynx) fan modding that can be accomplished, otherwise, its just using the tail as a "gun handle" in the hand of a combiner (think Shuffler), it really doesn't look good, but I haven't seen anything else...yet...

Because it’s never been the intention with POTP legend class. They interact with prime masters and that’s it. I don’t understand why some are so adamant to try and shoehorn figures into something when it’s not the intention.

It’s so frustrating when the line was shown and people getting mad that they don’t know how slash merges with the others or why it’s not advertised is baffling. Hasbro never said it would!

I'm fully aware it was never the intention. It was also never the intention for CW Bombshell to be a gun, or TAV Override to be a Bow etc... but hey, I'm having fun with it.

Why are you frustrated that people play with their toys differently 8-}

News Credits: 14 · by **DecepticonFinishline** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:57 pm

o.supreme wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
o.supreme wrote:Yeah, I wanted to keep going with the 6th member thing, it has resulted in some wonky results though .

Speaking of which. I got Slash yesterday. I challenged my son to come up with something, but there's really not much you can do with her. I may wait until I have Grimlock in hand to see if there is any backpack (ala wreck-gar to Skylynx) fan modding that can be accomplished, otherwise, its just using the tail as a "gun handle" in the hand of a combiner (think Shuffler), it really doesn't look good, but I haven't seen anything else...yet...

Because it’s never been the intention with POTP legend class. They interact with prime masters and that’s it. I don’t understand why some are so adamant to try and shoehorn figures into something when it’s not the intention.

It’s so frustrating when the line was shown and people getting mad that they don’t know how slash merges with the others or why it’s not advertised is baffling. Hasbro never said it would!

I'm fully aware it was never the intention. It was also never the intention for CW Bombshell to be a gun, or TAV Override to be a Bow etc... but hey, I'm having fun with it.

Why are you frustrated that people play with their toys differently

Additionally, it seems pretty clear (to me, at least) that even though combination is not the intention, that characters like Slash exist for the underlying purpose of keeping the teams of six. I think that is the ONLY reason we are (allegedly) getting Cindersaur- so that he can be a neo-Terrorcon.

This way, those that like the 6-member teams can have some consistency in their play.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:22 pm

Knightsword wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Knightsword wrote:The Matrix
The Enigma of Combination

Probably not. The first one only vaguely looks like a Matrix, I feel like Hasbro would have gone for something a little more on the nose and easily recognized as a Matrix. The second one I would think it was an Enigma it would have five points to represent the five members instead of six.

I'm probably wrong, but I'm going with the top being Primus and the bottom being Unicron. The first one reminds me of the circular formations on the surface of Cybertron while the second reminds me of Unicron's planet jaws as seen in G1 (not the clamping jaws from the Unicron Trilogy).

Emerje

The CW Combiners were all 6 members. Plus that is the symbol that is actually on the enigmas that come with the PotP Voyagers.

First off this isn't Combiner Wars and none of the PotP combiners have six members. It would be strange to base a symbol on an outlier like that when five is considered standard.

And second, none of the Enigma look like that:

Grimlock - Four sided cross shape with blocks at the corners
Starscream and Elita - Four sided cross shape with circles at the corners
Hun-gurrr and Inferno - Three sided like a nuclear symbol.

No six point stars here.

Emerje

News Credits: 3 · by **bodrock** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:57 pm

I have no plans to pick up PotP Starscream because I'm not crazy about his proportions....but on Elita-1, it's all good. No idea why, honestly.

It's wonderful wave1 is out there for most -- we're all waiting on the Leaders, now!

I am awaiting my Prime Masters now, but still enjoying the new Dinobot, Slash.

: Calling Optimus Primal for backup!

News Credits: 30 · by **DeathReviews** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:38 pm

Yep.. definitely looks like Hun-Grrr is a Silverbolt remold. Alas that they should go so lazy in that regard when they made totally new molds for all the other Terrorcons. The forelegs especially look pretty derpy, and the rear legs don't 'transform' enough to look convincing. Well, I'll get it regardless because I really want an Abominus, but still...

News Credits: 13 · by **steals_your_goats** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:42 pm

DeathReviews wrote:Yep.. definitely looks like Hun-Grrr is a Silverbolt remold. Alas that they should go so lazy in that regard when they made totally new molds for all the other Terrorcons. The forelegs especially look pretty derpy, and the rear legs don't 'transform' enough to look convincing. Well, I'll get it regardless because I really want an Abominus, but still...

Not a remold just shared design.

News Credits: 4501 · by **william-james88** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:47 pm

bodrock wrote:I have no plans to pick up PotP Starscream because I'm not crazy about his proportions....but on Elita-1, it's all good. No idea why, honestly.

Its because Elita 1 does not have the gauntlets the same colour as the forearms, making the forearms look proportional instead of looking like popeye. Also, now that I have starscream, I realize that those forearms could have been much leaner without compromising the gimmick (basically, they would be as big as Silverbolt's).

News Credits: 171 · by **notsoalex** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:49 pm

Hopefully, Blast Off will come with a set of POTP-style hands and feet for Bruticus.

News Credits: 4501 · by **william-james88** » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:10 pm

steals_your_goats wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:Yep.. definitely looks like Hun-Grrr is a Silverbolt remold. Alas that they should go so lazy in that regard when they made totally new molds for all the other Terrorcons. The forelegs especially look pretty derpy, and the rear legs don't 'transform' enough to look convincing. Well, I'll get it regardless because I really want an Abominus, but still...

Not a remold just shared design.

A shared design can most definitely be considered a retool, as is standard in the toy industry.

But everyone has their own definition of what it means for something to be a retool so no one is right or wrong here.