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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:19 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:Yep.. definitely looks like Hun-Grrr is a Silverbolt remold. Alas that they should go so lazy in that regard when they made totally new molds for all the other Terrorcons. The forelegs especially look pretty derpy, and the rear legs don't 'transform' enough to look convincing. Well, I'll get it regardless because I really want an Abominus, but still...

Not a remold just shared design.


A shared design can most definitely be considered a retool, as is standard in the toy industry.

But everyone has their own definition of what it means for something to be a retool so no one is right or wrong here.


The main difference between the two is that they share no parts, and the sharing itself is only truly evident in Torso Mode. Starscream has a similar transformation btw, he also makes a handstand :lol: .
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby bodrock » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:22 pm

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bodrock wrote:I have no plans to pick up PotP Starscream because I'm not crazy about his proportions....but on Elita-1, it's all good. No idea why, honestly.

Its because Elita 1 does not have the gauntlets the same colour as the forearms, making the forearms look proportional instead of looking like popeye. Also, now that I have starscream, I realize that those forearms could have been much leaner without compromising the gimmick (basically, they would be as big as Silverbolt's).


That's exactly it, Will!

Amazing how much a paint job can make all the difference (like Hasbro versus Takara). ;)
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Postby Hellscream9999 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:27 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:Yep.. definitely looks like Hun-Grrr is a Silverbolt remold. Alas that they should go so lazy in that regard when they made totally new molds for all the other Terrorcons. The forelegs especially look pretty derpy, and the rear legs don't 'transform' enough to look convincing. Well, I'll get it regardless because I really want an Abominus, but still...

Not a remold just shared design.


A shared design can most definitely be considered a retool, as is standard in the toy industry.

But everyone has their own definition of what it means for something to be a retool so no one is right or wrong here.


The main difference between the two is that they share no parts, and the sharing itself is only truly evident in Torso Mode. Starscream has a similar transformation btw, he also makes a handstand :lol: .

I mean, it was such a damn great design choice 8-)

Silverbolt and his design kin are best torso's, no competition [-(
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Postby Skritz » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:43 pm

If this Blast Off is real I'm really torn: on one hand I was planning to get a G2 Bruticus and this would clearly be a G1 colored Blast Off. The odds of getting this in G2 colors is functionally zero. That would mean hunting down a (near) full set of CW Combaticons to add this Blast Off to make a completely accurate Bruticus. On the other hand? I'm kind of a heretic who think the Combaticons having a space shuttle make zero sense and doesn't mind him as a jet.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:48 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:Yep.. definitely looks like Hun-Grrr is a Silverbolt remold. Alas that they should go so lazy in that regard when they made totally new molds for all the other Terrorcons. The forelegs especially look pretty derpy, and the rear legs don't 'transform' enough to look convincing. Well, I'll get it regardless because I really want an Abominus, but still...

Not a remold just shared design.


A shared design can most definitely be considered a retool, as is standard in the toy industry.

But everyone has their own definition of what it means for something to be a retool so no one is right or wrong here.


The main difference between the two is that they share no parts, and the sharing itself is only truly evident in Torso Mode. Starscream has a similar transformation btw, he also makes a handstand :lol: .

I mean, it was such a damn great design choice 8-)

Silverbolt and his design kin are best torso's, no competition [-(


... as long as the Combiner heads don't snap off :WHISTLE:
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby TaraTech » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:33 pm

gothsaurus wrote:I DO hope they eventually get around to at least finishing out a 5-bot femmebot.
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Chromia & Greenlight are on my list, Hasbro! Make it happen!!


Me too, and knowing Hasbro's penchant for repaints and retools, maybe they can make use of CW/UW Afterburner mold for an IDW version of Chromia and Flareup. Not G1 accurate but that would make the team, 2 cars and 2 cycles and a jet which I think would be an interesting mix. Sad we don't have a voyager car mold, but I suppose they needed a 2nd use for Starscream.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Skritz » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:52 pm

TaraTech wrote:
gothsaurus wrote:I DO hope they eventually get around to at least finishing out a 5-bot femmebot.
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Chromia & Greenlight are on my list, Hasbro! Make it happen!!


Me too, and knowing Hasbro's penchant for repaints and retools, maybe they can make use of CW/UW Afterburner mold for an IDW version of Chromia and Flareup. Not G1 accurate but that would make the team, 2 cars and 2 cycles and a jet which I think would be an interesting mix. Sad we don't have a voyager car mold, but I suppose they needed a 2nd use for Starscream.


When I first saw PotP Starscream and still speculating if he was going to be a Combiner torso (this was before we knew for sure), my first guess was Skyquake. Heck I even expected the big head to look like Machine War Starscream as a 'pretool' to Skyquake.

....Kinda wish I had been right, really.
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Stock Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Prime Masters Alpha Trion and Alchemist Prime

Postby Va'al » Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:09 am

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Coming at us this time not from Chinese portal weibo but German retailer Brandora's website, we have some new images from the Transformers Power of the Primes toyline - and more specifically, of the Prime Masters in wave 2: Alchemist Prime and Alpha Trion, with decoy suits Submarauder and Landmine respectively!

Nestled in with images of the three Prime Masters of the first wave (Liege Maximo, Micronus, Vector Prime), the two additional Pretenders by another name can be seen in packaging shots, inside the Decoy Suit, as three separate items (Prime Master, shell, accessory) and as the weapon for the other size class figures in the line. Expected release date for these is between March and June 2018, but you never know, given the early release of wave 1. Check them out below!

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Albatross250 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:46 am

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They better re-release Combiner Wars sets again.
Bruticus is by far the best CW ever built (Except you, Jet-Molded Blast Off)

ALSO THAT BLAST-OFF. I'm sooo waiting for its release :michaelbay: :twisted:

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Postby Insurgent » Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:57 am

I do not want these for my Masterforce shelf......
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Albatross250 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:03 am

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Skritz wrote:
TaraTech wrote:
gothsaurus wrote:I DO hope they eventually get around to at least finishing out a 5-bot femmebot.
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Chromia & Greenlight are on my list, Hasbro! Make it happen!!


Me too, and knowing Hasbro's penchant for repaints and retools, maybe they can make use of CW/UW Afterburner mold for an IDW version of Chromia and Flareup. Not G1 accurate but that would make the team, 2 cars and 2 cycles and a jet which I think would be an interesting mix. Sad we don't have a voyager car mold, but I suppose they needed a 2nd use for Starscream.


When I first saw PotP Starscream and still speculating if he was going to be a Combiner torso (this was before we knew for sure), my first guess was Skyquake. Heck I even expected the big head to look like Machine War Starscream as a 'pretool' to Skyquake.

....Kinda wish I had been right, really.


Skyquake's still a go, hoping for that Guy

Elita-1 looks THICC to be honest. :michaelbay:
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Postby RustedCross » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:23 am

Considering none of the other versions of the mood had any...if Inferno comes out having stickers, I’m going to be upset.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby william-james88 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:44 am

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Albatross250 wrote:They better re-release Combiner Wars sets again.
Bruticus is by far the best CW ever built (Except you, Jet-Molded Blast Off)

For CW, sure I guess we could say Bruticus was the best. But Unite Warriors Computron and Grand Galvatron are still better :-P
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Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:36 am

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I'm actually happy Elita looks like she has a retooled chest. I am still really on the fence with her and Inferno, but I do want an Inferno, and the chest remold actually makes her look pretty good. And I gotta hunt down a Chromia to go with the team.

And with that release date for the wave 2 Prime masters, I'm thinking wave 2 will be where the line slows back down to where it is supposed to be. Can't wait to start seeing these guys
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:59 am

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Insurgent wrote:I do not want these for my Masterforce shelf......


Here's something to make the temptation slightly less:

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... that is, if you're not into them.

Submarauder's shell needs a longer peg, it looks more like a fork rather than a trident.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby bodrock » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:11 am

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Lamdmine is definitely a simple repaint and slight mold change with Metalhawk's head-fin. Whether I pick him up is all about the Core's "face" and power-up it provides....
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Postby Evil Eye » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:12 am

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The Pretender/Prime Masters look so, so stupid...but I love them.
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Postby leokearon » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:36 am

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:52 am

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bodrock wrote:Lamdmine is definitely a simple repaint and slight mold change with Metalhawk's head-fin. Whether I pick him up is all about the Core's "face" and power-up it provides....


His function is Mystical Scientist, but he's mostly about mixing liquids... like a bar tender *hint hint*
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Power of the Primes Voyager Starscream Pictorial Review

Postby william-james88 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:00 pm

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While many are enjoying their deluxe and legends class toys from Power of the Primes, which have been fine for the most part, the voyagers are definitely the most divisive toys from the line. For a reason that still boggles the mind, Hasbro never did reveal that Voyager Starscream could turn into a torso, nor is that torso mode found in any promotional or stock images. This simply added more mystery to a toy that many were lukewarm about. So below is a pictorial review to help you see what the toy is all about.

Jet Mode

The Jet mode is as serviceable as Silverbolt's was. It is still a robot hiding under a jet (even more so than Silberbolt). Unlike Silverbolt though, we are treated to a staggering amount of foil stickers. While they don't look anywhere near as good as paint, I did not find this to be the main flaw with the toy. It does give more of a sense that this is a toy for an audience much younger than me (which is exactly what it is), but none of it was peeling and the application was fine, with lines meeting up.

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I remember Hasbro stating that they really tried to have that exact shade of off white plastic fans associated with Starscream back when they released the Combiner War leader figure. However, I always found the end result rather dull. The plastic is a tad bit lighter/brighter here but not by much. The red and blue are much brighter though and make me realize how the colours on the leader figure look faded.

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You can open the cockpit to place a Prime Master or Titan Master (it's more made for them in their "cube" mode). I don't find it to be a great look. You can place the smaller figures all across his jet mode though.

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A big issue I have with this toy is a design flaw with two robot leg panels which fold down so that the legs (which make up the back of the jet) can recede closer to the jet body. These panels each have a peg for them to stay secure to the knees in robot mode. Howver, them being symetrical means they end up protruding at the same spot and hit one another in jet mode so it looks like the jet is permanently split in the back. To me, this is a much bigger mishap than the use of stickers.

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Robot Mode

The conversion from jet to robot is more complex than I thought and by that I mean that it isn't just 3 steps. There is a nice moment where you have to pivot the wings 180 degrees. I always love when Takara gives us transformation with big movements like that, it makes the transformation feel more dynamic.

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The end result isn't great though. This mode is where the biggest flaw with figure comes into play, the proportions. Having his forearms be the same colour as the armour gauntlets was a bad idea. He looks like Popeye. The feet are giant too, plus he has a small head. These proportions have given a false sense of scale in the past (he is smaller than I imagined) so I have several comparison images below to give a sense of scale. I don't know about you, but he really seems to not mesh in style with any of the other toys we would line him up with.

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Now a reason for the odd proportions is that his arms hide the combiner ports. And to that I say "so what?!" Silverbolt's did as well but you don't see him with giant gauntlets. And those giant gauntlet flaps dont even cover anything since the combiner hole ends up being in his inner wrist so there is no point to his arms looking this big aside from the designers wanting to do something new and different. While I will always give an A for effort, the result and actual grade is far from spectacular. And plus they expect you to add the combiner feet to make even bigger gauntlets. Thanks, but I will pass. The null rays are nothing to write home about either. They just seem there like it was in their contract and they didn't find a way to get out of it in time.

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I really dislike those feet stickers. They definitely make this toy look like something from Imaginext. The head is also very generic. We have had tons of Starscream heads but they always find some way to invigorate them, like the Ghost Starscream head we got in Untie Warriors or the one we got in Robot in Disguise. But here it really is simply generic. And so is the combiner head for that matter. Which leads me to...

Torso mode

Firstly, the transformation into torso mode is stellar. It is by far the most involved transformation we have ever gotten from a combiner torso and it has a unique look which doesnt seem to be just a leftover from other modes (like Volcanicus). Plus it has a fun homage to movie Stasrcream's Doritos body and is incredibly solid. I still stand by the fact that the best torso is Silverbolt's (well, technically for me it's Galvatronus, but you catch my drift) but his chest can become undone. With Starscream, it's rock solid. Plus you can tab in the null rays for storage in an elegant manner. There is the idea that you can also plug in his enigma of combination and well, you will see the results below. The face is quite dull though, as generic as his robot mode face, and the crown seems to have the same contract the null rays got. But it is cool to have the cockpit form the chest, making him look like a bigger version of himself. I think that is very witty and gives a lot of sense to the smaller fake cockpit we see in his robot mode.

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There are of course flaws with the combiner mode, but not necessarily the torso. The combiner feet are far too narrow and while I appreciate the ankle tilt, him being so wide at the torso makes me avoid spreading his legs since it looks off and the lack of ratchets at the robot mode elbow makes him harder to pose properly. Adding the extra hands to the back of the feet is something I do not recommend. Firstly, with so much kibble in the front of his torso and most legs having more bulk in the front, he has more of a tendency to fall forwards, so there is no point to enforcing heels. Plus, you have to be really parallel to the feet or else you will just make any stance more unstable. So basically, adding them only raises the possibility of him being unstable while never adding to the stability.


All in all, I don't think I will keep this toy, but there is a lot of potential with the torso mode which is why I am still going to pick up Elita-1.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

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His function is Mystical Scientist, but he's mostly about mixing liquids... like a bar tender *hint hint*
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Postby Ig89ninja » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:52 pm

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby steals_your_goats » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:53 pm

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Will could you have made the combined mode look any dorkier? Seriously would one interesting pose have killed you?
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby RodimusConvoy13 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:54 pm

Motto: "Well, when I see five weirdos dressed in togas, stabbing a man in the middle of the park in full view of a hundred people, I shoot the bastards! That's MY policy!"
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steals_your_goats wrote:Will could you have made the combined mode look any dorkier? Seriously would one interesting pose have killed you?


Do your own pictorial reviews, dude. Jesus.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:54 pm

Motto: "The only good is knowledge, and the only evil is ignorance."
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bodrock wrote:Lamdmine is definitely a simple repaint and slight mold change with Metalhawk's head-fin. Whether I pick him up is all about the Core's "face" and power-up it provides....


His function is Mystical Scientist, but he's mostly about mixing liquids... like a bar tender *hint hint*
Landmine is Alpha Trion.


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