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Emerje wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:So, now, since we have a dinoking members head as a prototype (which means a conscious effort to put it there) and now, a dinoking accesory, do you feel safe (like 'cw computron once botcon ramhorn was announced' safe) that Dinoking is coming somewhere, somehow?
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the parts existed between the Dinobots and Terrorcons to make both Dinoforce and the Pretender Monsters. Since Swoop and Cutthroat share parts, if the parts they share also contain the heads on the same sprew then we could see the the same head used on both molds to make a Yokuryu with a pteranodon alt mode and a Wildfly with a winged monster alt mode. Maybe Snarl has a Doryu head on the mold and maybe worked the same head into the Blot or Rippersnapper mold.
Really nothing would surprise me now.
Emerje
Hotconvoy wrote:Hotconvoy wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Moonracer looks terrific to me, except for that hefty backpack, of course. We need a new term for figures that really hit the mark except for a very noticeable chuck of kibble on the back. Maybe "butherback?" As in, "Moonracer has got a real butherback of a robot mode."
Well we could keep it simple with "Fatback"
Wait wait i'v got it "Hichhiker" like CW Prime would be hichhiker Optimus Prime
william-james88 wrote:Acesmcgee wrote:Doubt it was that. I was living either in Virginia or New York at the time. It's funny, living in Michigan since I was 7 (spent the first 7 years moving around due to my Dad being navy) I never realized how many collectors live in this state. Back to the primes line, I am so super excited for that Abominus to stand next to Computron.
Pretty sure someone just got you the whole set in individual packages. That means there were some pretty aware adults back in the day, lucky you
Delta Magnus wrote:This is because you are a hamhanded idiot.
Wolfman Jake wrote:Hasbro might just cheat like they did with its release of Liokaiser, reducing and remixing the team roster.
steals_your_goats wrote:We'll probably get official combiner names at some point just like how we eventually got names for the Titan masters in the two box sets.
william-james88 wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Hasbro might just cheat like they did with its release of Liokaiser, reducing and remixing the team roster.
I would be very surprised anythign different than that happens.
And anyways, its already inner robots turning into outer dino shells, which is different from G1 already, so might as well do other changes.
Flashwave wrote:This is sorta what they did back at the beginning in a way, hybridizing the Pretender characters' different aspects into a figure. Generations Skullgrin (still a better figure than the PotP brick we are getting) and Thunderwing, for example.
william-james88 wrote:Flashwave wrote:This is sorta what they did back at the beginning in a way, hybridizing the Pretender characters' different aspects into a figure. Generations Skullgrin (still a better figure than the PotP brick we are getting) and Thunderwing, for example.
And best of all
mordhelm wrote:So did anyone else read that editorial on another TF site (not sure if I'm allowed to mention the name not, always forget the rule). Anyway, he seems to think Generations is coming to a close with PotP Wave 4. It's an interesting theory, one that I think does warrant discussion, but I don't believe it to be correct on a great many assumptions. Here are some of my thoughts (keeping it pertaining to PotP as much as possible):
1. It was stated that Generations WOULD be continuing after PotP (by John Warden I believe). It was hinted though that they would do away with line-wide gimmicks for the next set.
He didnt say there wouldnt be any gimmicks, but he did say generations has a roadmap until 2021, so yeah right off the bat the editorial is wrong
2. Generations, IDW, and Earth Wars are pretty much hand in hand in many respects. And we know that there is a big event coming later this year and in 2019 for IDW (Unicron). Earth Wars is still making a crap load of money off of whales in the game, and they entered even more interesting territory by being an official sneak peek avenue for new releases (Volcanicus and Predaking). If EW slows down, you can bet Earth Wars 2 will come in short order to fill the gap.
3. It was pointed out that maybe TF Authentics/Evergreen will be the spiritual successor to PotP. I doubt it, because we haven't heard a peep about the Cyberverse line. I am guessing Cyberverse will tie into Authentics.
Cyberverse wont tie with authentics, they are different lines using similar designs. Just like Generations Lugnut was in a different line than Animated Lugnut. And Authentics is a sublne of generations, it is not the successor. We know this from the leaks. If there are Cyberverse toys, they will be in a show line, like RID was
4. CW, TR, and PotP are definitely making money. Transformers in general is one of Hasbro's hot tickets. In spite of TLK being somewhat of a flop (compared to the other films) toy sales still hit growth. Why would they sabotage that?
Just wanted to reinforce your point that yes, at Hsbro TFs are what is bringing in the most growth $ wise. It is their best performing brand, and generations is part of it.
5. PotP ending earlier than we think is starting to feel a bit more feasible. I cannot remember the exact dates for CW releases, but PotP definitely seems to be releasing slower. Robot Kingdom just posted that Wave 2 will ship in April 2018, while BBTS and TFSource seem to think it will still be Q1 (which could technically be as late as March 31st). If it does slip to April, that's a 4 month difference between releases. Even if it picks back up to 3 months, that's July for wave 3, and October for wave 4, which means new waves will be 2019.
So far, its been 6 quarters for CW, TR and will be the same with POTP. The release schedule is the same. POTP Wave 1 was supposed to show up in December, but we got it a month early, hence the 4 month rather than typical 3 month. But 3 month is just an average.
6. What if PotP is intentionally stopping early? Not as a way to sabotage Generations, but to improve the release process. What if, each sequence is yearly, instead of 18 months. PotP may very well be a trial run for the new system (much as the tail end of TR was). Introduce a new subline for January stock (some hitting in December), new toys/characters in the beginning and middle (Wave 1 and 2, and mostly 3). Then Wave 3 starts the repacks. Why would they do this? Well, I think it's to try to get more sales during the holiday season. B&M stores overload on the same 4 deluxes/legends because they get the latest wave. My Walmart STILL has Scourges, Blurrs, and Hardheads. What if retailers pushed on Hasbro to find a way to combat that, and Hasbro's way is to trickle down the new characters, so they can reload the rest of the years toys back in. For collectors, kids, and parents, more choices will lead to better chances of purchases. During the massive holiday rush (late november) you could actually see so many different characters on the shelves. I really want to see if this is the plan.
7. Shorter release cycles mean less time they have to spend in a particular ecosystem (Combiners/Headmasters) to be able to get new characters out. People are clamoring for Apeface and Snapdragon, but if PotP is a normal release cycle (18 months), that means it won't be till summer 2019 when we maybe could get them. Shorter releases would allow them to be a bit more agile and get a better breadth of characters/play patterns out there.
So really, my question is, has anyone's opinion changed as to whether PotP is going to be a shorter than usual cycle? And do you think it is for better or worse if that is the case?
I am certain this wont be the case. We already know there are 12 primemasters and theya rent releasing 3 per wave so right there we know there is mroe than 4 waves.
Moderators, if this strays too far off topic from PotP (which I tried not to do) feel free to let me know and we can start a new thread about it.
AFTRHR wrote:I really hope that if they end up doing Monstructor/Dinoking that they just make all 6 deluxes with Slog having the shoulder combiner ports and Birdbrain having the leg combiner ports. Then just have them both peg into each other top-down and bam, you have yourself a complete Monstructor.
(they should've done this for Devvy too)
william-james88 wrote:AFTRHR wrote:I really hope that if they end up doing Monstructor/Dinoking that they just make all 6 deluxes with Slog having the shoulder combiner ports and Birdbrain having the leg combiner ports. Then just have them both peg into each other top-down and bam, you have yourself a complete Monstructor.
(they should've done this for Devvy too)
Hope is just undiscovered dissapointment.
william-james88 wrote:AFTRHR wrote:I really hope that if they end up doing Monstructor/Dinoking that they just make all 6 deluxes with Slog having the shoulder combiner ports and Birdbrain having the leg combiner ports. Then just have them both peg into each other top-down and bam, you have yourself a complete Monstructor.
(they should've done this for Devvy too)
Hope is just undiscovered dissapointment.
Delta Magnus wrote:This is because you are a hamhanded idiot.
steals_your_goats wrote:william-james88 wrote:AFTRHR wrote:I really hope that if they end up doing Monstructor/Dinoking that they just make all 6 deluxes with Slog having the shoulder combiner ports and Birdbrain having the leg combiner ports. Then just have them both peg into each other top-down and bam, you have yourself a complete Monstructor.
(they should've done this for Devvy too)
Hope is just undiscovered dissapointment.
While I agree that we won't get a 6 deluxe monstructor that's a pretty poopy way to go about life.
william-james88 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:william-james88 wrote:AFTRHR wrote:I really hope that if they end up doing Monstructor/Dinoking that they just make all 6 deluxes with Slog having the shoulder combiner ports and Birdbrain having the leg combiner ports. Then just have them both peg into each other top-down and bam, you have yourself a complete Monstructor.
(they should've done this for Devvy too)
Hope is just undiscovered dissapointment.
While I agree that we won't get a 6 deluxe monstructor that's a pretty poopy way to go about life.
We can hope for a better tomorrow, but it will only happen if we make it happen. Hoping my kids will have something to eat tonight wont put food on the table. Me going to work does. We are the masters of our own destiny.
On a more on topic note, I will buy a 5 member Dinoking, if the price is right. I am far more interested by the dinobots being reused to make Dinoking than the terrorcons reused to make monstructor since the alt modes look more the part.
Delta Magnus wrote:This is because you are a hamhanded idiot.
steals_your_goats wrote:As for monstructor and dinoking I think we're all forgetting about what combiner wars introduced for 6th members. If either or both of these are to be released it'll most likely be in a box set so it'll need a legends figure to reach the $100 price point.
william-james88 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:As for monstructor and dinoking I think we're all forgetting about what combiner wars introduced for 6th members. If either or both of these are to be released it'll most likely be in a box set so it'll need a legends figure to reach the $100 price point.
But thats not what happened with Liokaiser, the only original 6 member combiner that was turned scramble city, and the best bot to base any of these hopes on. The 6th member was not a smaller version of one of its original members, but an homage to the breastmasters the original came with.
Delta Magnus wrote:This is because you are a hamhanded idiot.
mordhelm wrote:I am still extremely curious what the boxsets will be for this subline. The TR boxsets seemingly sold way better than CW.
william-james88 wrote:On a more on topic note, I will buy a 5 member Dinoking, if the price is right. I am far more interested by the dinobots being reused to make Dinoking than the terrorcons reused to make monstructor since the alt modes look more the part.
ScottyP wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing two molds retooled in various crazy ways to yield Slog & Birdbrain, Jarugar & Leozack, and Shouki & Kaen.
Don't ask me how on Earth that could ever actually work. That's not my job
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