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Postby bodrock » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:04 am

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I need both Hun & E-1 -- I'll report in as soon as I can find 'em on the West Coast!

And I also had no plans to pick-up Rodimus, but I've enjoyed having him -- and Imma still pick-up Rodimus Unicronus, too!

As for the upcoming wave of Prime Masters, I will most likely have to impulse buy Alchemist Prime. I prefer the scale of Pretender Submarauder, but Baby Skullgrin was fun to have.
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Postby Rated X » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:35 am

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Rated X wrote:F***k I hate the stupid toy accuracy. Why cant we get a purple head with slanted antenna and a white face? The biggest fail of Hasbro chug decos is their assumption that a mold based to resemble the cartoon should be painted like the damn toy to include homage to gang-molded coloring and silly tech decals that look like polka dots. Perfect Effect please fix this guy.

You mad, bro? :-D



Hell yeah...The whole point of chug is to give us the toys from the cartoon we never had. Its obvious the Sunbow animators took certain liberties to make the dumbed down toys look cooler. So making them homage the brick toys is a step backwards.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Bumblevivisector » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:52 am

Rated X wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:
Rated X wrote:F***k I hate the stupid toy accuracy. Why cant we get a purple head with slanted antenna and a white face? The biggest fail of Hasbro chug decos is their assumption that a mold based to resemble the cartoon should be painted like the damn toy to include homage to gang-molded coloring and silly tech decals that look like polka dots. Perfect Effect please fix this guy.

You mad, bro? :-D



Hell yeah...The whole point of chug is to give us the toys from the cartoon we never had. Its obvious the Sunbow animators took certain liberties to make the dumbed down toys look cooler. So making them homage the brick toys is a step backwards.

So much pointless bickering before we FINALLY get to a complaint that's on-topic, and accurate. I know the smaller antennas would be a tad tougher for Hasbro to execute (they'd require articulation), but this Abominoggin needs 3rd party help even more so than Menasor's. Abominus was the only gestalt in the Sunbow 'toon whose head didn't really look anything like the toy, so the once-in-a-decade-or-so update should seriously have tried to give us that which we have not had in physical form before. Trying to simply outperform the original toy won't work in this case, since G1 Hun-grrr's legs were a rare example of extra articulation for the sake of extra articulation at a time when TFs were becoming bricks.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Flashwave » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:54 am

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I wish Hasbro would make a mainstream release of Medix and re-release Alpha Bravo, Rook, Streetwise (as Streetstar) and make versions of the extra Protectobots (red jet, yellow drill tank, etc) so that we could use them to make different versions of Defensor and Guard City respectively.


Thats precisely what I am using the leftover Strafe and Nosecone from the Hasbro Computron for. ;)

And since I never liked "Alpha Bravo" as a name, he makes a good Flyup. Side stripe is a little wrong, but maybe someone will Repro it someday.

Coincidentally, if you want to take it one step farther, Rook and Mirage, plus Nosecone/Heatrock and Strafe/Skyfeather make a good stand in for Rescue Force.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Evil Eye » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:04 pm

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Rated X wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:
Rated X wrote:F***k I hate the stupid toy accuracy. Why cant we get a purple head with slanted antenna and a white face? The biggest fail of Hasbro chug decos is their assumption that a mold based to resemble the cartoon should be painted like the damn toy to include homage to gang-molded coloring and silly tech decals that look like polka dots. Perfect Effect please fix this guy.

You mad, bro? :-D



Hell yeah...The whole point of chug is to give us the toys from the cartoon we never had. Its obvious the Sunbow animators took certain liberties to make the dumbed down toys look cooler. So making them homage the brick toys is a step backwards.

Are we talking about the same cartoon? The G1 toys were products of their time, but the actual details they had were pretty neat. Especially compared to the cartoon models, a great deal of which were just straight up flat box men to make them easier to animate. The combiners especially looked pretty cool in toy form but straight up awful in the cartoon, Menasor in particular.

Plus, did Abominus ever really do anything in the cartoon? I don't see the point in making a super-accurate version of a character who was ultimately barely of any consequence.

Also, CHUG isn't for straight-up reproductions of the cartoon. It's to combine and reinterpret the best elements of the designs of existing characters for a new generation. You're thinking of the MP line (Which IMO has gone too far down the "Make it look 100% like this badly drawn cartoon, even if it makes it look awful"). If you want to get 100% cartoon inspired figures then buy MPs. Because guess what, the mainline will continue to incorporate toy/original elements to the designs and that's not gonna change any time soon.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Jim Maximus » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:04 pm

Picked mine up this morning here in Oregon.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby william-james88 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:24 pm

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Jim Maximus wrote:Picked mine up this morning here in Oregon.


Did you see anything else from POTP wave 2?

Rated X wrote:The whole point of chug is to give us the toys from the cartoon we never had.

Nope. The whole point of CHUG is to have toys on the shelves in between films and tv show based lines to keep brand awareness.

What is included in a CHUG line or how the toys look will change depending on which designer is in charge of the line, there is no set rule.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:32 pm

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Cobotron » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:33 pm

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Lore Keeper » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:52 pm

Rated X wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:
Rated X wrote:F***k I hate the stupid toy accuracy. Why cant we get a purple head with slanted antenna and a white face? The biggest fail of Hasbro chug decos is their assumption that a mold based to resemble the cartoon should be painted like the damn toy to include homage to gang-molded coloring and silly tech decals that look like polka dots. Perfect Effect please fix this guy.

You mad, bro? :-D



Hell yeah...The whole point of chug is to give us the toys from the cartoon we never had. Its obvious the Sunbow animators took certain liberties to make the dumbed down toys look cooler. So making them homage the brick toys is a step backwards.

I hear what you're saying. Personally, I'm more in the camp of choosing which interpretation looks better overall and even mixing details of the toy and cartoon to achieve that perfect look. For example, I love how CW Superion uses the helmet from the G1 toy, but the face from the cartoon. It looks perfect to me.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:13 pm

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Caelus wrote:Is it still "mansplaining" when a Brit does it to an Australian?


I think it's called "blokesplaining" in this case. :lol:

Anyway, I do feel some of Rated-X's pain with the loss of Takara Tomy versions of Generations toys. I loved having the options there, especially because I prefer cartoon accurate details. For me, though, cartoon accurate toys don't need to be plain and devoid of detail. If something was on the toys but not in the cartoon, it's acceptable to me, in the interest of making a visually appealing toy. However, I prefer color choices and layouts to be as close to the cartoon as possible. For instance, I would prefer the Dinobots to all have blue eyes, but the "clear dome over gold paint" look for their "yellow" parts from the cartoon is a great use of toy detailing that makes the figures look much better in hand. With Abominus, I'd rather have the helmet be purple, the face silver, and the shades red, like in the cartoon, but what we have is a toy-accurate layout with a white helmet, purple face, and yellow shades. Once again, it's a shame that we don't have the options we used to. Maybe Takara will do a gift set redecoed for cartoon accuracy as a Takara Tomy Mall exclusive a number of years down the line, but for now, this is the only choice we have, and it leaves me wanting more, thinking of what could have been instead.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Munkky » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:55 pm

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It may be because I have no real attachment to the Terrorcons (I'll always associate the name with the drones from Transformers Energon personally), but the colours on Abominus don't look that bad to me. I'll still probably skip the Terrocons, but if the Pretender Monsters do happen I may pick those up, because I liked Monstructor when he was around in IDW. Though I only want one more Decepticon Combiner for my Generations collection, and I've been planning to get Unite Warriors Megatronia for a while, so it's a toss-up between her and a Combiner that could potentially happen but also may not.

Seeing the art for Inferno's Combiner form again, I'm half-tempted to head-canon it into Nexus Prime, because the black on his shoulders looks slightly dark blue if you squint, which coupled with the red of the helmet reminds me of FunPub Nexus. Once Prime Master Nexus comes out (assuming it does at all), I could just stick it exclusively on Inferno, add Moonracer, Novastar and my CW Mirage and Sunstreaker that no one will buy on Ebay, and boom, you have "Nexus Prime".
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:06 pm

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Munkky wrote:Seeing the art for Inferno's Combiner form again, I'm half-tempted to head-canon it into Nexus Prime, because the black on his shoulders looks slightly dark blue if you squint, which coupled with the red of the helmet reminds me of FunPub Nexus. Once Prime Master Nexus comes out (assuming it does at all), I could just stick it exclusively on Inferno, add Moonracer, Novastar and my CW Mirage and Sunstreaker that no one will buy on Ebay, and boom, you have "Nexus Prime".


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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby primalxconvoy » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:13 pm

Wolfman Jake wrote:
Caelus wrote:Is it still "mansplaining" when a Brit does it to an Australian?


I think it's called "blokesplaining" in this case. :lol:


But we're BOTH "blokes" in our respective countries!

Anyway, to the above poster that is going to customise their extra technobots, great idea! I was holding out for Takara to do this, and to also release a Battle Gaia repaint, too. Heck, I wanted an urban cammo/dessert cammo version of Ruination as troop builders, but perhaps I'm the only one?

Also, I agree with William about CHUG; It was originally a G1-esque filler line. For me, now, though, CHUG is a rough size/scale, containing ANY genre of toy. It's an acronym they I use to represent my "normal" sized TFs, basically.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Emerje » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:28 pm

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Rated X wrote:Hell yeah...The whole point of chug is to give us the toys from the cartoon we never had.

Yeah! They should be cartoon accurate like they've been since the beginning!

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Oh, I guess not. Well surely Universe was always cartoon accurate.

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Uhhh, maybe not... Generations then?

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You know what, forget it. The toys aren't sculpted to be G1 accurate to begin with so whether they're painted to look like the cartoon or the original toys is of equal value.

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:45 pm

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Zwolf! Glad you're back in action. ;)^

Haha it's good to be back, took you long enough to realise :-P thought you forgot all about me :lol:

It seems we're stiLL back at what the true meaning of the classics/universe/generations (leaving out United as that was just takara releasing the hasbro stuff cartoon accurate colours).
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:56 pm

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Rated X wrote:Hell yeah...The whole point of chug is to give us the toys from the cartoon we never had.

Yeah! They should be cartoon accurate like they've been since the beginning!

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Postby Rysquad » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:31 pm

Will each have get new DPCIs at Target?
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Jim Maximus » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:55 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Jim Maximus wrote:Picked mine up this morning here in Oregon.


Did you see anything else from POTP wave 2?

Rated X wrote:The whole point of chug is to give us the toys from the cartoon we never had.

Nope. The whole point of CHUG is to have toys on the shelves in between films and tv show based lines to keep brand awareness.

What is included in a CHUG line or how the toys look will change depending on which designer is in charge of the line, there is no set rule.


There were two Hun-Grrs and two Elita-1 toys in my local Walmart. There was also the leader class Optimus Prime (I bought him last month) and the Rodimus Unicronus (spelled right I hope).
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Rated X » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:27 pm

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Rated X wrote:The whole point of chug is to give us the toys from the cartoon we never had.

Nope. The whole point of CHUG is to have toys on the shelves in between films and tv show based lines to keep brand awareness.

What is included in a CHUG line or how the toys look will change depending on which designer is in charge of the line, there is no set rule.



Totally disagree. Youre talking about the point of CHUG from a corporate perspective. I'm talking about the point of CHUG from a designers perspective. And CHUG started in 2006 (arguably earlier with Universe line) The 1st Bay Movie was a year away. The Unicron Trilogy was over and the next show (Animated) was a few years away. So saying CHUG is strictly for "Brand Awareness" in-between shows/movies is a bit of a misstatement. I think its fair to say that CHUG was an experiment in 2006 but since 2016 it has pretty much been the main line. The last 2 movie lines failed and seem more like filler in-between CHUG lines.

william-james88 wrote:What is included in a CHUG line or how the toys look will change depending on which designer is in charge of the line, there is no set rule.


This I do agree with you. We have seen the line slowly shift from "Neo" alt modes to straight up G1 alt modes. I imagine the newer designers see the value of cartoon accuracy more than their predecessors who designed the Universe 2.0 lines. Especially when doing a homage to character with minimal appearances in the cartoon.

But I take issue with "G1 toy accuracy" when it homages decos that suck because of corporate decisions which have nothing to do with the fiction. My definition of "Toy accuracy" at its worst would be Hot Rod having orange hands or Blitzwing having a purple faces just because the G1 brick makers were too cheap to add a little more paint. Cheesy tech decals are another corporate concoction that I cringe that they love to homage. And now instead of giving actual "rub signs" like they did in Universe 2.0, they actually give you an imitation rub sign on Hun-Grrr's shoulder. :RUBSIGN: How stupid is that ? If Hasbro is too cheap to do rub-signs this round, just go with the cartoon accurate identical faction signs on each shoulder. :CON: Also the red tech decals on the dragon necks forming the proper shape of Abominus chest plate is total fail. That's the reason he doesn't have proper dragon heads on his knees which was another important distinctive feature of Abominus. A hell of a lot more important than weird punk rocker goggles which the G1 brick didn't even have. The stupid parts integration sacrificed the figure overall. Look at the dragons belly and the robots back. Its all purple, for what ? For some stupid kid who is too dumb not to loose his parts? Toy accuracy is so lame. We have 2 Slugslingers that are almost identical in blue color even though he was practically dark evergreen in the cartoon. To me the essence of CHUG is fixing all the wrongs of the brick toys from the 80's. I remember how disappointed I was when I saw the Blast Off toy months after the much cooler cartoon version premiered months earlier. And after seeing the 1986 movie and seeing Ultra Magnus and then we get the crappy toy. I was like, whats up with that stupid white prime repaint with fake Magnus armor? Granted I was 10 years old and I didn't know anything about Diaclone or the history of how the brand came to be. But what I did know is the cartoon was so much cooler. Ironhide got a freaking head ! How about that ??? If we are going to homage everything stupid about a brick toy that made it a "toy" we might as well put fake screws too. Oops they did that too on Powerglide's forehead.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Burn » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:46 pm

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby primalxconvoy » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:04 pm

Rated X wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Rated X wrote:The whole point of chug is to give us the toys from the cartoon we never had.

Nope. The whole point of CHUG is to have toys on the shelves in between films and tv show based lines to keep brand awareness.

What is included in a CHUG line or how the toys look will change depending on which designer is in charge of the line, there is no set rule.



Totally disagree. Youre talking about the point of CHUG from a corporate perspective. I'm talking about the point of CHUG from a designers perspective. And CHUG started in 2006 (arguably earlier with Universe line) The 1st Bay Movie was a year away. The Unicron Trilogy was over and the next show (Animated) was a few years away. So saying CHUG is strictly for "Brand Awareness" in-between shows/movies is a bit of a misstatement. I think its fair to say that CHUG was an experiment in 2006 but since 2016 it has pretty much been the main line. The last 2 movie lines failed and seem more like filler in-between CHUG lines.

william-james88 wrote:What is included in a CHUG line or how the toys look will change depending on which designer is in charge of the line, there is no set rule.


This I do agree with you. We have seen the line slowly shift from "Neo" alt modes to straight up G1 alt modes. I imagine the newer designers see the value of cartoon accuracy more than their predecessors who designed the Universe 2.0 lines. Especially when doing a homage to character with minimal appearances in the cartoon.

But I take issue with "G1 toy accuracy" when it homages decos that suck because of corporate decisions which have nothing to do with the fiction. My definition of "Toy accuracy" at its worst would be Hot Rod having orange hands or Blitzwing having a purple faces just because the G1 brick makers were too cheap to add a little more paint. Cheesy tech decals are another corporate concoction that I cringe that they love to homage. And now instead of giving actual "rub signs" like they did in Universe 2.0, they actually give you an imitation rub sign on Hun-Grrr's shoulder. :RUBSIGN: How stupid is that ? If Hasbro is too cheap to do rub-signs this round, just go with the cartoon accurate identical faction signs on each shoulder. :CON: Also the red tech decals on the dragon necks forming the proper shape of Abominus chest plate is total fail. That's the reason he doesn't have proper dragon heads on his knees which was another important distinctive feature of Abominus. A hell of a lot more important than weird punk rocker goggles which the G1 brick didn't even have. The stupid parts integration sacrificed the figure overall. Look at the dragons belly and the robots back. Its all purple, for what ? For some stupid kid who is too dumb not to loose his parts? Toy accuracy is so lame. We have 2 Slugslingers that are almost identical in blue color even though he was practically dark evergreen in the cartoon. To me the essence of CHUG is fixing all the wrongs of the brick toys from the 80's. I remember how disappointed I was when I saw the Blast Off toy months after the much cooler cartoon version premiered months earlier. And after seeing the 1986 movie and seeing Ultra Magnus and then we get the crappy toy. I was like, whats up with that stupid white prime repaint with fake Magnus armor? Granted I was 10 years old and I didn't know anything about Diaclone or the history of how the brand came to be. But what I did know is the cartoon was so much cooler. Ironhide got a freaking head ! How about that ??? If we are going to homage everything stupid about a brick toy that made it a "toy" we might as well put fake screws too. Oops they did that too on Powerglide's forehead.


I think at least some of the different points you made resonate with many of us in different ways. It would be a shame to just "chug it in the bin" and poo-poo it..
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Postby Hotconvoy » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:05 pm

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Jim Maximus wrote:Picked mine up this morning here in Oregon.


Did you see anything else from POTP wave 2?

Rated X wrote:The whole point of chug is to give us the toys from the cartoon we never had.

Nope. The whole point of CHUG is to have toys on the shelves in between films and tv show based lines to keep brand awareness.

What is included in a CHUG line or how the toys look will change depending on which designer is in charge of the line, there is no set rule.


There were two Hun-Grrs and two Elita-1 toys in my local Walmart. There was also the leader class Optimus Prime (I bought him last month) and the Rodimus Unicronus (spelled right I hope).

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Evil Eye » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:08 pm

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Rated X wrote:The whole point of chug is to give us the toys from the cartoon we never had.

Nope. The whole point of CHUG is to have toys on the shelves in between films and tv show based lines to keep brand awareness.

What is included in a CHUG line or how the toys look will change depending on which designer is in charge of the line, there is no set rule.



Totally disagree. Youre talking about the point of CHUG from a corporate perspective. I'm talking about the point of CHUG from a designers perspective. And CHUG started in 2006 (arguably earlier with Universe line) The 1st Bay Movie was a year away. The Unicron Trilogy was over and the next show (Animated) was a few years away. So saying CHUG is strictly for "Brand Awareness" in-between shows/movies is a bit of a misstatement. I think its fair to say that CHUG was an experiment in 2006 but since 2016 it has pretty much been the main line. The last 2 movie lines failed and seem more like filler in-between CHUG lines.

Yep, and at that point they were even less slavish to G1.

william-james88 wrote:What is included in a CHUG line or how the toys look will change depending on which designer is in charge of the line, there is no set rule.


This I do agree with you. We have seen the line slowly shift from "Neo" alt modes to straight up G1 alt modes. I imagine the newer designers see the value of cartoon accuracy more than their predecessors who designed the Universe 2.0 lines.

That or they just lack imagination to come up with anything different. And even then, a lot of the alt modes are changed/altered; from minor things like the Aerialbots and Stunticons (who are quite different cars and jets to the originals) to more radical changes like Megatron in TR getting a tank and jet mode as opposed to an unsellable and kinda daft gun mode.
Especially when doing a homage to character with minimal appearances in the cartoon.

What the hell is the point in being slavishly accurate to the cartoon depiction of a character that barely appeared in the cartoon? Especially for guys like the Jumpstarters who never appeared in the cartoon, or the Headmasters who got precisely a few minutes at most of screentime in the poorly animated even by G1 standards travesty that is The Rebirth (not to mention the fact that in the show that actually featured them prominently- The Headmasters anime- they looked very different). Why bother paying homage to such insignificant appearances?

But I take issue with "G1 toy accuracy" when it homages decos that suck

Most of the toy decos were fine though. The toys haven't aged well from an engineering standpoint because they were designed in the early 80s (or in some cases the late 70s!) but the decos were for the most part pretty good. In some cases blatantly superior to the cartoon. Like Astrotrain with his snazzy black loco mode and crisp white shuttle mode, or basically every instance of toy silver or chrome over toon white or grey.
because of corporate decisions which have nothing to do with the fiction.

Alas, real life is a b!tch.
My definition of "Toy accuracy" at its worst would be Hot Rod having orange hands

OH NO NOT THE ICONIC HANDS
or Blitzwing having a purple faces just because the G1 brick makers were too cheap to add a little more paint.

Blitzwing's face is a mess for sure, but not because of the colour. I don't mind the purple, the problem is it's applied way too thick.
Cheesy tech decals are another corporate concoction that I cringe that they love to homage.

Honestly those tech details were sweet as hell. The problem is they're stickers instead of proper tampographs.
And now instead of giving actual "rub signs" like they did in Universe 2.0, they actually give you an imitation rub sign on Hun-Grrr's shoulder. :RUBSIGN: How stupid is that ?

It makes you angry so IMO it's pretty good.
If Hasbro is too cheap to do rub-signs this round, just go with the cartoon accurate identical faction signs on each shoulder. :CON:

Fashionable asymmetry isn't so bad. I mean, I would have preferred actual tampos to those awful stickers, but I don't mind him having something different on each shoulder.
Also the red tech decals on the dragon necks forming the proper shape of Abominus chest plate is total fail.

"This interesting solution to giving the character his classic chest shape is awful! How DARE they use creative thinking!" -Rated X
That's the reason he doesn't have proper dragon heads on his knees which was another important distinctive feature of Abominus.

Ah yes, because when I think of important design cues of a combining robot I think of its...knees.
A hell of a lot more important than weird punk rocker goggles which the G1 brick didn't even have.

The G1 brick didn't have elbows either, better get rid of those!
The stupid parts integration sacrificed the figure overall.

"I hate toys that don't have to come apart into a pile of kibble to perform their basic functions" -Rated X
Look at the dragons belly and the robots back. Its all purple, for what ? For some stupid kid who is too dumb not to loose his parts?

No, to annoy some stupid manchild who is too dumb to understand basic common sense with regards to toy design.
Toy accuracy is so lame.

No, you just have appalling taste.
We have 2 Slugslingers that are almost identical in blue color even though he was practically dark evergreen in the cartoon.

Except in the anime in which he ACTUALLY DID STUFF, in which he was the colour of the Takara version.
To me the essence of CHUG is fixing all the wrongs of the brick toys from the 80's.

I could run through the whole argument all over again but you're clearly so dense I'll have to spell it out for you simply. CHUG = modern redesigns. MP = exact reprodution.
I remember how disappointed I was when I saw the Blast Off toy months after the much cooler cartoon version premiered months earlier. And after seeing the 1986 movie and seeing Ultra Magnus and then we get the crappy toy.

You must have been an awful child.
I was like, whats up with that stupid white prime repaint with fake Magnus armor?

"How DARE this toy company give me play options and cool features! I DEMAND EXACT ACCURACY TO THIS COMMERCIAL!" =Rated X, Age 10.
Granted I was 10 years old and I didn't know anything about Diaclone or the history of how the brand came to be.

Exactly. You were 10. You should know better now.
But what I did know is the cartoon was so much cooler.

...And then you grew up and realized that the cartoon, whilst charmingly doofy, was not exactly a masterwork of entertainment and is not the definitive version of Transformers. Oh wait, that's from Shattered Glass Seibertron where Rated X is a well adjusted individual without an unhealthy fixation on badly drawn robots. Goddmanit, Bizarro Worlds are supposed to be WORSE than the real world, not better!
Ironhide got a freaking head ! How about that ???

Ah, the magic of cherry picking.
If we are going to homage everything stupid about a brick toy that made it a "toy" we might as well put fake screws too. Oops they did that too on Powerglide's forehead.

What, you mean like his cartoon model?

I could go on for hours, especially with regards to the fact that a lot of these toys have features that are very different from their predecessors and thus render the "muh accuracy" demands moot anyway (characters being combiner parts, being Headmasters, actually having a personality etc) but I'll just echo the Aussie Avenger, Burn's sentiments.
Burn wrote:They're just toys dude. :lol:


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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Jim Maximus » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:09 pm

Hotconvoy wrote:
Jim Maximus wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Jim Maximus wrote:Picked mine up this morning here in Oregon.


Did you see anything else from POTP wave 2?

Rated X wrote:The whole point of chug is to give us the toys from the cartoon we never had.

Nope. The whole point of CHUG is to have toys on the shelves in between films and tv show based lines to keep brand awareness.

What is included in a CHUG line or how the toys look will change depending on which designer is in charge of the line, there is no set rule.


There were two Hun-Grrs and two Elita-1 toys in my local Walmart. There was also the leader class Optimus Prime (I bought him last month) and the Rodimus Unicronus (spelled right I hope).

Did you buy Rodimus Unicronus?


I did not. I live in a small town that is somehow full of Transformers fans, so I can’t imagine him sticking around very long.
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