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Let's all go ahead and move on from this discussion. It is terribly off topic. This is certainly not a thread for ethical/moral debate. As interesting as it is.

@G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 - I see you feel very strongly on your position, but there are much more tactful ways to get your point across without your assumptions, accusations, and generally rotten tone. Have a great day at work.

WE ARE ALL MOVING ON FROM THIS DISCUSSION... NOW.
Any more posts on this matter will end in a warning.



Edit:Well I see Rodimus Prime isn't as lenient as me.

I will reiterate, any post from anyone on this matter will result in MORE warnings.

G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 wrote:Your right wing ignorance reeks, you don't care about the facts and how retail law is, so i will take it that you are either jealous of that guy or you are a millineal that does some form of drugs everyday, keeping you from understanding. Either way you're f#@ked... as for me, gotta get ready for work. I'll give you the last word, I know little girls always want it. But ive muted your convo so others can entertain you now

This is unacceptable. If you can't have a civil conversation with others on the board, perhaps you shouldn't participate. Have a warning.

Learn proper grammar before insulting others. Lacking it makes you look even more ignorant.

Rodimus Prime wrote: I watched a review of Rodimus Unicronus a day ago, made by user SoundJack426. His was up before this one.

And you chose not to share with the news staff because?

To be fair, I pulled the "Clue" line (i.e., "I'm going to go home and sleep with my wife") in an argument here about 14-15 years ago.

Once.

I was about 19-20 years old, in my first real relationship, and felt that having a wonderful partner somehow validated my character or maturity (or something).

I remember it after all this time because I pretty quickly realized doing it made me look like a putz, and eventually understood it was just wrong to exploit a romantic relationship to support your self-esteem or (worse) make others feel bad for being single.

I say this, because that latter part was an important life lesson that I didn't get from the general mockery of other posters or from a mod warning, but might have understood if someone had explained it outright at the time.

Hey guys, just wanted to say that the images of the Hun-Gurrr box are definitely legit. Mine also has the face removed on several panels on the back of the box (I took pictures in case you find it relevant).

And also confirming that Walmart seems to be the place to try to get the Voyager and Leader class figures, though you need to be a bit lucky, the stores only seem to be placing 1 of each out on shelves.

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote: I watched a review of Rodimus Unicronus a day ago, made by user SoundJack426. His was up before this one.

And you chose not to share with the news staff because?

Honestly, it didn't occur to me. At the time I watched it, I didn't realize there hadn't been any other reviews. It was the first one I saw, and clicked on it. (I was also pressed for time, so I mostly just skimmed it, and I also didn't look for any others.) Until you posted the one you found, I hadn't thought of there not being a review already in the review forum. I'm sorry if you felt slighted. If knew, I would have sent the link to it.

Ugh, I still just don't know how I feel about the wave 2 voyagers. It would be simple if it were a hard pass on either of them, but it's not. The Combiner completionist in me wants Abominus, but at the same time I'm really underwhelmed by Hun-Gurrr, and they've gotten so expensive. And Elita-1 looks surprisingly good as a standalone, but I already got Starscream, and I already have a 3rd party equivalent of Elita-1. On the otherhand, that figure is comparable to a lightweight deluxe, so posing her next to my Masterpiece Optimus Prime looks kind of... perverse.

I guess I'll probably get Hun-Gurrr right away for Abominus, and try to get Elita-1 on discount.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote: I watched a review of Rodimus Unicronus a day ago, made by user SoundJack426. His was up before this one.

And you chose not to share with the news staff because?

Honestly, it didn't occur to me. At the time I watched it, I didn't realize there hadn't been any other reviews. It was the first one I saw, and clicked on it. (I was also pressed for time, so I mostly just skimmed it, and I also didn't look for any others.) Until you posted the one you found, I hadn't thought of there not being a review already in the review forum. I'm sorry if you felt slighted. If knew, I would have sent the link to it.

To be honest, I felt more slighted by the comment. As news staff, we try really hard to keep up to date and inform the public in every way. So when we get any sort of dry comment that exists only to let us know that we are wrong or could have done something earlier (which is how I interpreted it), it kinda stings.

But since you meant nothing wrong by it, its all good. Just remember (and this goes to everyone) if you find anything you didnt see before, be it a pic, a sighting or a video, let us know. Yes, most of the times it might be old news but it will be worth it for the time it's indeed something new

Caelus wrote:but I already got Starscream, and I already have a 3rd party equivalent of Elita-1. On the otherhand, that figure is comparable to a lightweight deluxe, so posing her next to my Masterpiece Optimus Prime looks kind of... perverse.

Yeah and with this new Elita, she turns out to be a massive voyager, so her next to POTP Leader Optimus would look pretty good.

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote: I watched a review of Rodimus Unicronus a day ago, made by user SoundJack426. His was up before this one.

And you chose not to share with the news staff because?

Honestly, it didn't occur to me. At the time I watched it, I didn't realize there hadn't been any other reviews. It was the first one I saw, and clicked on it. (I was also pressed for time, so I mostly just skimmed it, and I also didn't look for any others.) Until you posted the one you found, I hadn't thought of there not being a review already in the review forum. I'm sorry if you felt slighted. If knew, I would have sent the link to it.

To be honest, I felt more slighted by the comment. As news staff, we try really hard to keep up to date and inform the public in every way. So when we get any sort of dry comment that exists only to let us know that we are wrong or could have done something earlier (which is how I interpreted it), it kinda stings.

But since you meant nothing wrong by it, its all good. Just remember (and this goes to everyone) if you find anything you didnt see before, be it a pic, a sighting or a video, let us know. Yes, most of the times it might be old news but it will be worth it for the time it's indeed something new

Well I definitely didn't mean to imply that you don't do a good job. I know all the news crew works hard to keep everyone informed. (No matter what Burn says about you fine folks. ) Thanks for understanding and again I apologize for the hasty comment.

As for Elita-1, now that I got a better look, I'm not sold on her. Maybe it's just my G1-ish mindset, but I think she should have slimmer arms and legs, and no wings. Otherwise, the colors and the head sculpt are great. Maybe if I get her in-hand it will change my mind. That's what happened with Grimlock and Starscream.

On the topic of Rodimus Unicronus/Nemesis Rod/Shattered Glass Rodimus/CHUG Titanium Menasor...

I never saw Rodimus Prime in hand, but being happy with Titans Return Hot Rod, would have been happy to pass him over for the repaint, since this is actually something pretty different. Granted, there have been a few black Rodimus figures, now, but none that I've had access to, so I guess it's new-to-me.

Anyway, not having Rodimus Prime, here are my thoughts:

(1) Vanity kneecaps are hilariously appropriate for an evil Hot Rod. Still wish he had the SG Autobot insignia, though. Being as he doesn't, and is supposed to be a mainline character, I find myself wondering: does that mean there's a heroic Rodimus Prime in the Shattered Glass universe? Is there a Zibarro Hot Rod?

(2) I like that the head isn't (as far as I know) just a repaint of RP's head. It has a distinct look, and the facial 'hair' is less reminiscent of Mirrorverse Spock, and more reminiscent of either Transformers: Animated Motormaster, or DCAU Lobo. I definitely hear Brad Garrett's voice in my head when I look at him.

(3) Oddly, his right knee is slightly loose - not floppy, but loose - while his left knee has a great deal of tension on it. If I force it all the way back, which freaks me out, it will stay in position, but any position short of that it kicks forward under its own tension. I assume the plastic most be warped or the pin through the knee is over-tight.

(4) In terms of the evolution gimmick, Hot Rod has the better alternate mode, and Rodimus has the better robot mode. In robot mode, Hot Rod feels kind of lanky and oddly proportioned, while Rodimus is bulky, hefty, and looks good with my other Leader and Masterpiece villains. Rodimus also just has more personality than Hot Rod, somehow. In vehicle mode, I'd be more impressed with Rodimus if (a) his trailer weren't so fiddly to attach, and (b) if his windshield came forward and lifted up a little, to look a bit more like a truck cab, and a bit less like Hot Rod is being swallowed by something.

(5) The transformation is a lot more clever than I expected. I had to check the instructions, partly because some things were tight enough I wasn't sure I was doing things right, but partly because it just didn't work the way I thought it did.

(6) The articulation on his shoulders doesn't really bother me. A change to Hot Rod's knees might have improved it, but probably would have caused problems for Hot Rod. Hot Rod's hands becoming Rodimus's ribs is a bit distracting.

(7) As far as the backpack, I think the weight helps balance him, but I do feel like the backpack could have folded up better. I kind of wish the spoiler could be extended to give him bigger wings in Rodimus mode, but I guess those would have just gotten in the way.

(8) The plain black wheels were a bummer, and I had to fix that with a paint pen sooner after I opened him.

(9) His rifle is cool, but doesn't look right with him. Armada Darksaber looks good with him, but what I think he really needs is a chain and hook. Because, again, Lobo.

william-james88 wrote:

Damn, that's one large toy. It's so weird that she's taller than my favourite Prime and Grimlock too. But that's toy logic for you, I guess.

I'll likely get her just to have, but I don't think she fits in with my collection.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Damn, that's one large toy. It's so weird that she's taller than my favourite Prime and Grimlock too. But that's toy logic for you, I guess.

I'll likely get her just to have, but I don't think she fits in with my collection.

Optimus Prime and Elita One will have to be displayed far apart from one another on my shelves. I use the Classics Voyager Optimus mold as my definitive Optimus Prime too. I'd be tempted to replace him with the Unite Warriors Optimus Prime, but that head sculpt just doesn't do it for me. Just for fun, though, if anyone with a CW/UW Optimus Prime picks up Elita One in the near future, could you pose them together for a size comparison?

This is probably why Starscream is so... manly bulky: to offset Elita's proportions I'm impressed with how many parts have been effectively switched out for robot mode...

...while the vehicle mode gets a new set of wings and jet engines. Nicely done.

Any comparisons of Hun-Gurrr with Silverbolt/Cyclonus/Scattershot?

elita-1 definitely works better then screamer in this mold. screamers proportions aren't something we haven't seen before, but when you match it with his teeny weenie smaller then a deluxe scale head, it makes everything else super baloonish looking. elita's head makes the proportions less unnerving, and the extra bits to the forearm guards makes it seem more like armor and less like popeye arms. though making them a different color would also help with that.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

This is probably why Starscream is so... manly bulky: to offset Elita's proportions I'm impressed with how many parts have been effectively switched out for robot mode...

I just had a crazy thought - given his robot mode is SO bulky, and given much of it (e.g., the entire chest) is unused in his alternate mode, how trippy would it have been if his robot mode had been sculpted/painted to look like his old pretender shell?

I mean, look at those flippin' boots!

Just an FYI Amazon has the wave 2 legends figures up for $16 each. That's not a mistake or typo.

Hello there . I am new in forums but I want to tell everyone something about this type of POTP Hun-grrr . G1 accurate ? Really god ? who paid him to tell this on video ? Hasbro maybe . Are they blind ? This will not work . Telling them this because designers are off one more time . Fired them ! Did he know exactly what he was saying in the video crap ? Did he know Hun-grrr from the G1 3rd season and over ? Also look 3rd party companies . This Hun-grrr is a dissapointment in all ways and point of views i can imagine and has so many innacurate points that made him ridiculous in all aspects ! Tail hide everything in front and might was from the back that's the right accuration not this . Legs as another guy told are totally wrong and unpainted . [first time we saw this was good grey now white and wrong on tops] and are meant to be the knees not chest also . Third flaw now the painting is totally ...unpainted in knees and chest as generally the total mechanism of Hun-grrr is a disaster flaw . Shame on you Hasbro you destroy another great hero in the Transformers world ! Cry for heavy addons or totally new third party Hungrrr compatible with combiners mechanism like Motormaster back then . A disaster and ruined design i expect many more after so many years . Told the designers to do lessons 1 hour more to learn the things they are doing better . A grand let down .... and a great dissapointment ! I give this design 5/10 and in accuration 5/10 also and this because it will work but will not be accurate G1 by all means ! Grand innacurration and heavy mistakes !

Still no luck in my area of Oregon, but I figure they'll show up soon. I'm glad Hasbro modified the mold for Elita-1.

Still no Deluxe or Prime Master sightings....

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Just an FYI Amazon has the wave 2 legends figures up for $16 each. That's not a mistake or typo.

It looks like there are other vendors selling at that price, through Amazon. Slash, Beachcomber, and Windercharger can all be had just shy of $10 directly from Amazon.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Just an FYI Amazon has the wave 2 legends figures up for $16 each. That's not a mistake or typo.

That isnt exactly true.

Amazon proper currently only has wave 1 POTP figures in stock and are selling them at MSRP, no wave 2.




I see no point in complaining or being surbrprised about 3rd party seller prices.

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Just an FYI Amazon has the wave 2 legends figures up for $16 each. That's not a mistake or typo.

That isnt exactly true.

Amazon proper currently only has wave 1 POTP figures in stock and are selling them at MSRP, no wave 2.




I see no point in complaining or being surbrprised about 3rd party seller prices.

I think some people get confused, not knowing that when they search Amazon, they get results not only for Amazon's own stock but for their affiliated 3rd party vendors as well. It's pretty shady of Amazon, actually.

Thank you

Learn proper grammar before insulting others. Lacking it makes you look even more ignorant.[/quote]
And thank you

Hot Convoy, your skirting the line buddy. Let it rest as I asked, or there will be consequences.

Please and thank you.