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News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Wed May 23, 2018 9:22 am

My initial thought is basically this would be the equivalent of a "Trading card" for Predaking, I mean if they did include one, how much would that suck to have 12 different trading cards for Predaking, who would be crazy enough to try to collect all those? Abominus, Volcanicus etc... don't have tading cards because they were not released as a set. There is still no real news about if/ow the last 3 primes will be released.

Also, I know some are saying the matrix is a stand in for the 13th Prime, but see below early Promo art actually had 15 symbols, further proof in my mind that this line was seemingly cut short, though I'm sure someone will quickly post that this is not the case.

by **NTESHFT** » Wed May 23, 2018 9:46 am

bodrock wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:You should try and be in the UK, to get any of the terrorcons i need to go online.

The distro for PotP is really killin my buzz for the Hunt, honestly. I go online primarily for vintage -- if I had to go completely online for the latest, I'd probably spend less due to shipping, etc.

I've pretty much given up on hunting and just preorder from BBTS or TFsource now days. I've been wasting too much gas running around looking for anything especially since they don't seem to be sticking anything new. Every Wal-Mart and Target around me are just restocking wave 1 for some reason (but not the leader class figures) and are just now getting the studio series in.......

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Wed May 23, 2018 9:52 am

Wait fifteen symbols? Who did the other two belong to?

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Wed May 23, 2018 9:58 am

ZeroWolf wrote:Wait fifteen symbols? Who did the other two belong to?

I asked that question at least 3 times previously in this thread...Some speculate it's Primus and Unicron, others said the 3 additional (12+3) represented the 3 matrixes that come with the 3 leaders- OP, RU, and OO, but now that we have a 4th Leader Nemesis Prime and coming out...??? but there has been no definitive answers as far as I know.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Wed May 23, 2018 10:23 am

The thing is if one was supposed to be op then it would be redundant as he would be one of the thirteen :-?

Interesting.

News Credits: 42 · by **TF-fan kev777** » Wed May 23, 2018 10:26 am

o.supreme wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Wait fifteen symbols? Who did the other two belong to?

I asked that question at least 3 times previously in this thread...Some speculate it's Primus and Unicron, others said the 3 additional (12+3) represented the 3 matrixes that come with the 3 leaders- OP, RU, and OO, but now that we have a 4th Leader Nemesis Prime and coming out...??? but there has been no definitive answers as far as I know.

Actually,Nemesis prime would be the 5th leader, well 4th or 5th depending on whether he makes it out before monkey prime. OP, RP, RU, NP and OO. But, the 3 symbols being the 3 matrices could still work if we assume OP and NP share a matrix and RP and RU share a matrix. At this point, though, I believe it is anyone wild guess.

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed May 23, 2018 10:37 am

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Wait fifteen symbols? Who did the other two belong to?

I asked that question at least 3 times previously in this thread...Some speculate it's Primus and Unicron, others said the 3 additional (12+3) represented the 3 matrixes that come with the 3 leaders- OP, RU, and OO, but now that we have a 4th Leader Nemesis Prime and coming out...??? but there has been no definitive answers as far as I know.

Actually,Nemesis prime would be the 5th leader, well 4th or 5th depending on whether he makes it out before monkey prime. OP, RP, RU, NP and OO. But, the 3 symbols being the 3 matrices could still work if we assume OP and NP share a matrix and RP and RU share a matrix. At this point, though, I believe it is anyone wild guess.

I think he meant that both Optimus Prime and Rodimus Prime have the Matrix of Leadership while Rodimus Unicronus, Optimal Optimus, and Nemesis Prime all have different Matrices. But, Optimal Optimus's Matrix actually is still the Matrix of Leadership, so it is only three Matrices after all: the Matrix of Leadership, the Matrix of Chaos, and the Dark Matrix of Leadership.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed May 23, 2018 3:23 pm

Sabrblade wrote:BIGGER pic:

Megatronus: Dark Warrior
Vector: Time Traveler
Prima: Warrior of Light
Alchemist: Mystical Scientist

Quintus: Seeder of Life
Amalgamous: Shape-Shifter
Nexus: Power of Combination
Solus: Weapons Forger

Onyx: Beast Prime
Liege Maximo: Trickster
Micronus: Power Swap(?)
Alpha Trion: Infinite Knowledge(?)

Those last two are pretty blurry and hard to read.

It's nothing more but their standard titles, really. You can find them of the back of the cards.

News Credits: 1 · by **jungletron** » Thu May 24, 2018 4:34 pm

Prime Masters in weapon mode are too heavy for a deluxe. :-x

: Offroad with Skullgrin & Bomb Burst

: Offroad with Submarauder & Octopunch

: Offroad with Bludgeon

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Thu May 24, 2018 4:37 pm

I'm afraid where off road is going to stick bludgeon...

News Credits: 16 · by **It Is Him** » Thu May 24, 2018 9:14 pm

Heads up: stock photos for Sinnertwin, Blot and Cutthroat are all up at Amazon. Still not for sale

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Thu May 24, 2018 11:11 pm

https://www.facebook.com/Planetiacon.st ... =3&theater

JP packaging

so now, Amiami's JP domestic PotP stock has/will arrive and all paid for now.

News Credits: 1 · by **ExciKaiser** » Fri May 25, 2018 7:35 am

Hi,
Has anyone removed Elita's stickers to see how it is under ?

I was waiting for reprolabels, but the set they just released is probably even worse than Hasbro's, so I wonder to just remove all this stuff.

by **gothsaurus** » Fri May 25, 2018 9:01 am

Yeah, while I LOVE Reprolabels, I DO definitely prefer when they lean toward G1 style labels. The more they go in wild directions with distracting patterns or fake reflections on windows... that's when I pass. (Or sometimes get the set and only apply half of it.) Still unsure if I'll get this Elita set.

But bottom line — very curious if someone can post the pics you just requested (what's under factory stickers).

News Credits: 4499 · by **william-james88** » Fri May 25, 2018 12:17 pm

For a while now, we knew that Takara's Power of the Primes line would be identical to Hasbro's at least in terms of how the toys look. This brand unification has led to many toys being the same in the generations line, the Movie Masteriece line, the Studio Series line and even the traditional Masterpiece line (with Anime Prowl being released by both companies), but so far at least the packaging had some difference. But that won't be the case for Takara's Power of the Primes.

Planet Iacon on Facebook has images of the first wave of Takara POTP toys in packaging and it is the same packaging as the Hasbro release. They do have a sticker showing the name of the toy in Japanese, but as you can see below, that sticker doesnt eve completely cover the Hasbro logo at times.

Below you will find PP (snicker) 07-09, Jazz, Rodimus and Optimus Prime.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Fri May 25, 2018 12:40 pm

We should keep an eye on Jazz and his subliminal messaging

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Fri May 25, 2018 1:49 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:We should keep an eye on Jazz and his subliminal messaging

It's still there.

by **Rated X** » Fri May 25, 2018 2:16 pm

This brand unification thing turned out to be such a joke.

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri May 25, 2018 2:19 pm

Isn't this basically how Takara treated their releases of most of the toys in the pre-AOE movie toylines?

by **gothsaurus** » Fri May 25, 2018 3:27 pm

All I know is I'm gonna have to commission a custom Unite Warriors style box for my Abominus.

:-(

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Fri May 25, 2018 4:33 pm

I'm surprised there's no "Takara Tomy" sticker on the front of the box either. What's even more hilarious is the multi-lingual packaging. None of that is going to entice a Japanese consumer, and it takes up so much of the space on the box, especially on the back!

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Fri May 25, 2018 5:00 pm

I wonder how much takara are saving by going this route, this may have been initiated by hasbro (conspiracy to increase domestic sales) but this route may work out beneficial to Takara. Also if it means the west are getting the same masterpieces, that's good news isn't it?

News Credits: 1 · by **ExciKaiser** » Fri May 25, 2018 6:34 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Isn't this basically how Takara treated their releases of most of the toys in the pre-AOE movie toylines?

No. Micron Legends, Superlink and Galaxy force toys were often different than Armada, Energon and Cybertron toys.
While it was mainly deco/paint différences, not a lot of remolds.

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri May 25, 2018 6:35 pm

ExciKaiser wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Isn't this basically how Takara treated their releases of most of the toys in the pre-AOE movie toylines?

No. Micron Legends, Superlink and Galaxy force toys were often different than Armada, Energon and Cybertron toys.
While it was mainly deco/paint différences, not a lot of remolds.

Uh... Those were not movie toylines. /:)

News Credits: 102 · by **Qwan** » Fri May 25, 2018 6:41 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
ExciKaiser wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Isn't this basically how Takara treated their releases of most of the toys in the pre-AOE movie toylines?

No. Micron Legends, Superlink and Galaxy force toys were often different than Armada, Energon and Cybertron toys.
While it was mainly deco/paint différences, not a lot of remolds.
Uh... Those were not movie toylines.

The trick is in the wording - "pre-AOE, movie toylines" versus "pre-AOE-movie toylines". Either could be reasonably read. Unfortunately since I don't remember anything about Takara's previous movie toylines, I can't contribute anything else other than a pedantic explanation...