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Hotrodimust wrote:
This is even worse than I thought this figures weapon shoots discs lol that's way worse than mech tech. The prime line is totally kiddy now so sad

As far as accessories go, nothing is worse than MechTechs [that don't lock].

RAcast wrote:

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Gosh, what have they done to the voyager class?!

That BH OP toy looks like something that comes with your Happy Meal. Strangely, I don't think the alt mode's so bad--bit of a nice Mad Max vibe to it, actually. But the wheels jutting out from the waist...bleh. Not a fan of the green windows either.

That's clearly a mistransformation, it's foolish pass judgement based on that alone. These are stock photos after all.

And stock photos are almost ALWAYS mistransformed, and the colors are almost always brighter than they really will be.

Even if they were to swivel backwards, they'd still stick out when you look at the figure from sideways.

If they were on ball-joints, they might be able to flip up to form "wings" on the toy's back, but they look to be mounted on a swivel hinge.

But looking at the photo, it's clear that the wheel kibble in bot mode is mounted on a swivel hinge, as you can see in the alt mode. The part under the windscreen rotates 180 degrees to form the lower torso in bot mode.

BTW, I wasn't passing judgement, just giving a casual observation.

Either way, let's not argue over something like this.

As for colors, I didn't say anything about them at all. And if you were referring to the clear green windows, green is green no matter how bright or dark it is. I just don't like green windows on my Optimii--it's a matter of taste.

This looks like Animated Prime, Star Convoy, Monster Convoy, Cybertron Prime, and Energon Prime all mashed up into one Big Playschool mess that transforms into a monster truck!

GEEWUNICAL!

Hotrodimust wrote:This is even worse than I thought this figures weapon shoots discs lol that's way worse than mech tech. The prime line is totally kiddy now so sad

A children's toyline actually looking appropriate for children? THE HORROR!

Sabrblade wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:This is even worse than I thought this figures weapon shoots discs lol that's way worse than mech tech. The prime line is totally kiddy now so sad

A children's toyline actually looking appropriate for children? THE HORROR!

Damn it, I was going to say something like that! I mean god forbid a toy for kids looks like *gasp* a TOY for KIDS!

Sabrblade wrote:

Flakmaster wrote:What an ugly, over-saturated, under-engineered piece of garbage. It looks like the designers decided to create a combination of TFA Prime and Cybertron Prime, throw some completely tasteless "beast" details onto it, and then top it all off with a horrendously ugly dull-gray mechtech-style weapon. Heck, the Cyberverse figure looks better thanks to its lack of cheating on the chest transformation, and the silver, normal-sized weapons.

This looks to be just one tier above the Rescue Bots figures.

Yeah, let's just go back to the old Diaclone and Micro Change molds. That'll surely fix everything.

Compared to the utter garbage that I've just looked at, I'll even settle for one of Maz's broken figures.

PrymeStriker wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:
This is even worse than I thought this figures weapon shoots discs lol that's way worse than mech tech. The prime line is totally kiddy now so sad

As far as accessories go, nothing is worse than MechTechs [that don't lock].

I disagree big goofy looking weapons that shoot stupid projectiles are IMO. That's the type of weapons that come with crappy 4" Spider-Man figures or gi joe movie figures. But everyone likes what they like and I like my figures a little more serious than kiddy.

That Bot wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:This is even worse than I thought this figures weapon shoots discs lol that's way worse than mech tech. The prime line is totally kiddy now so sad

A children's toyline actually looking appropriate for children? THE HORROR!

Damn it, I was going to say something like that! I mean god forbid a toy for kids looks like *gasp* a TOY for KIDS!

Even my 6 year old soon says it looks like its from the rescue bot line and when I say kiddy I mean play school fisher price kiddy and there are tons of people on this topic saying this toy sucks and looks kiddy so go troll someone else.

Wow. The mention of the original Diaclone molds reminded me... that's what we were getting originally. BELIEVABLE vehicles. You could show them to friends and they were surprised when they changed into anything else.

These guys, you can tell.

But yeah, I don't think the argument is whether these are "aimed at kids"... but the fact that the age group is shifting drastically younger and younger, to the point of shutting out many the adults. (Though I'm sure this of course brings in a number of toddler kids in their place. I'd be curious to see the "safe for" age printed on the cover of these new ones. I'd wager they're doing child safety testing for younger kids. Softer plastic and tolerances.)

gothsaurus wrote:But yeah, I don't think the argument is whether these are "aimed at kids"... but the fact that the age group is shifting drastically younger and younger, to the point of shutting out many the adults.

Hasbro: Adults? Buying toys for themselves? Hogwash.

Looks like OP merged with Autolauncher. Very chunky.

Hotrodimust wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:
This is even worse than I thought this figures weapon shoots discs lol that's way worse than mech tech. The prime line is totally kiddy now so sad

As far as accessories go, nothing is worse than MechTechs [that don't lock].

I disagree big goofy looking weapons that shoot stupid projectiles are IMO. That's the type of weapons that come with crappy 4" Spider-Man figures or gi joe movie figures. But everyone likes what they like and I like my figures a little more serious than kiddy.

Okay. That's your opinion, but almost every Transformers line has included these "kiddy" firing projectiles up until DOTM, so this is nothing new. Many of us, myself included, have longed the return of firing projectiles. Beast Hunters is bringing me what I want with that.

Yeah, I'm with you. Giant MechTech gimmicks that take up half the box are NOT what I want. Scaled accessories that display well are much better... and some that fire missiles or discs? That's great. Much fun.

PrymeStriker wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:
This is even worse than I thought this figures weapon shoots discs lol that's way worse than mech tech. The prime line is totally kiddy now so sad

As far as accessories go, nothing is worse than MechTechs [that don't lock].

I disagree big goofy looking weapons that shoot stupid projectiles are IMO. That's the type of weapons that come with crappy 4" Spider-Man figures or gi joe movie figures. But everyone likes what they like and I like my figures a little more serious than kiddy.

Okay. That's your opinion, but almost every Transformers line has included these "kiddy" firing projectiles up until DOTM, so this is nothing new. Many of us, myself included, have longed the return of firing projectiles. Beast Hunters is bringing me what I want with that.

I have to agree. I'd much rather have firing projectiles than...the mechtech stuff. I mean, the mechtech idea COULD have been done really well, but it wasn't. I feel it wouldn't get better if it had continued, so better to just get rid of it. Also, projectiles are far more amusing than they should be...

I don't mind the firing projectiles, but the aesthetics of this Beast line is horrible to my eyes.

I've bought every single PRID mold (some twice to display in both modes) and 7 of the AMs, but it stops with these.

Get out of my head SkyWarpsGhost! Are you in my BBTS account or what? Stop buying everything I'm buying! AIGH!!!

But seriously, sound like you just detailed my past two years, including the handful of AM figures... tapering off to canceling my orders for the line. Figuring I'll get ONE Prime and Bumblebee for Beast Hunters (like I did for the four year run of movie toys) and call it done.

As a side note... Nice glass display cases, my friend. Looks great.

SkyWarpsGhost wrote:I don't mind the firing projectiles, but the aesthetics of this Beast line is horrible to my eyes.

I've bought every single PRID mold (some twice to display in both modes) and 7 of the AMs, but it stops with these.

I couldn't have said it better myself. I'm pretty much out on the Beast line. Like the larger version of Predaking, but I need to see more of him. Right now I'm putting my money toward the MP line instead.

I hope with a lot of adult collectors bailing, that Hasbro/Takara devotes some real thought to planning some adult collector toys, instead of just one Masterpiece figure every year or so. A line of original mold club exclusives or online store toy line aimed at high-end collectors would be very welcome.

Considering people are dropping $600 a pop for a good Devastator likeness, I know there's a market for it.

That said, does anyone know what an average "line" of Hasbro toys costs? Like a "standard" off the shelf set of movie toys, or animated, etc.? Wondering what it means having someone skip a line like Beast Hunters means in real money. Anyone feel like doing the adding to estimate it?

gothsaurus wrote:I hope with a lot of adult collectors bailing,

Well, if that's the result of this line, then that's fine with me. More for me to enjoy then. To the victor go the spoils.

gothsaurus wrote:I hope with a lot of adult collectors bailing, that Hasbro/Takara devotes some real thought to planning some adult collector toys, instead of just one Masterpiece figure every year or so. A line of original mold club exclusives or online store toy line aimed at high-end collectors would be very welcome.

Or, more likely, Hasbro will ditch the fan market completely due to no more revenue.

Sabrblade wrote:

gothsaurus wrote:I hope with a lot of adult collectors bailing,

Well, if that's the result of this line, then that's fine with me. More for me to enjoy then. To the victor go the spoils.

You and me both. More bots for us!

Manterax Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

gothsaurus wrote:I hope with a lot of adult collectors bailing,

Well, if that's the result of this line, then that's fine with me. More for me to enjoy then. To the victor go the spoils.

You and me both. More bots for us!

Count me in.

PrymeStriker wrote:

Manterax Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

gothsaurus wrote:I hope with a lot of adult collectors bailing,

Well, if that's the result of this line, then that's fine with me. More for me to enjoy then. To the victor go the spoils.

You and me both. More bots for us!

Count me in.

Of course. Of course.

TBH, I don't know why people hate this guy. You'd think they'd be happy he doesn't follow the movie design that alot of people hated and that he's done away w/ the crappy powerizer gimmick. Hell, he's done away w/ mechtech completely.

Manterax Prime wrote:TBH, I don't know why people hate this guy. You'd think they'd be happy he doesn't follow the movie design that alot of people hated and that he's done away w/ the crappy powerizer gimmick. Hell, he's done away w/ mechtech completely.

I think he's pretty good. The more I look at him, the more I want him. However, I need a little bit more to have me completely sold. Specifically, I need to see a review of this guy and how he should be transformed. As a side factor, I'd like to see if this "upgrade" happens in the show and how they handle it.