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njb902 wrote:
you very well could be right....assuming transformers mate.

as for the thousands that died...individuals have dificulty comprehending large numbers of death....individual or groups that they personally know affect people very differently than large statistics. I know tranaformers are not human......but they aeem very similar emotionaly to us.

Ever sense the first Female Transformer Elita One, Transformers have been in relationships with 'male' Transformers. There is definitely a sexual dichotomy there.

burning_sirius wrote:

njb902 wrote:
you very well could be right....assuming transformers mate.

as for the thousands that died...individuals have dificulty comprehending large numbers of death....individual or groups that they personally know affect people very differently than large statistics. I know tranaformers are not human......but they aeem very similar emotionaly to us.

Ever sense the first Female Transformer Elita One, Transformers have been in relationships with 'male' Transformers. There is definitely a sexual dichotomy there.

not sure if I agree with sexual dichotomy......not sure if its something hasbro has considered for a childs toy line..even if there are male and female

though beast wars makes me unsure of that.

No body means he's not officially dead. Transformers have survived bigger explosions. (I'm in denial.)

According to IMDB were getting jetfire, crankcase and crowbar this episode. I wonder if any are going to be permanent or just more flashbacks?

We have a couple of new teaser images from tomorrow's new episode of Transformers Prime "Loose Cannons". First, Wheejack is back! This promo image comes to us from the Transformers facebook page. Next we have the new Decepticon Dreadwing (voiced by Tony Todd!) courtesy of Comics Continuum. Both are mirrored below.

Check out this exclusive image from tomorrow's new episode of Transformers Prime, 8:30 pm ET on @The Hub network! In "Loose Cannons," a legendary Autobot returns to Earth to look for a new Decepticon, but Optimus finds that something is not right with the rogue Bot.

He's not Tebowing, he's Wheeljacking... which sounds kinda filthy now that I think about it.

Still can't get over the fact that Dreadwing is a lazy redeco of Skyquake.

Twitchythe3rd wrote:Still can't get over the fact that Dreadwing is a lazy redeco of Skyquake.

meh seen one seeker seen them all.......just so happy for gatling gun of doom.....me likey Gatling gun....and cheese
....gatling guns and cheese!!!!!!!



I need to lay off the sugar.......

You know what would be totally cool? If Wheeljack and Dreadwing were partners, killed Seaspray and had a plot to kill Optimus.

njb902 wrote:

Twitchythe3rd wrote:Still can't get over the fact that Dreadwing is a lazy redeco of Skyquake.

meh seen one seeker seen them all.......

But Dreadwing and Skyquake was never even a seeker! Now if they would have gone with the names Dirge and Acid Rain, that would be a plus for the show, but this way it's just lame.

Or even Darkwing and Dreadwind... that would even explain the similarity.

Chaoslock wrote:

njb902 wrote:

Twitchythe3rd wrote:Still can't get over the fact that Dreadwing is a lazy redeco of Skyquake.

meh seen one seeker seen them all.......

But Dreadwing and Skyquake was never even a seeker! Now if they would have gone with the names Dirge and Acid Rain, that would be a plus for the show, but this way it's just lame.

Or even Darkwing and Dreadwind... that would even explain the similarity.

sorry to me any decepticon who turns into a fighter is a seeker. plus seekers tend to look similar to eachother. just my opinion....don't even know if there are seekers in this continuity.

Actually Dreadwing's bio which was just revealed earlier today via his Cyberverse packaging did reference him as a Seeker.

magirus wrote:According to IMDB were getting jetfire, crankcase and crowbar this episode. I wonder if any are going to be permanent or just more flashbacks?

IMDB = fake.

Janus Prime wrote:You know what would be totally cool? If Wheeljack and Dreadwing were partners, killed Seaspray and had a plot to kill Optimus.

They already did the "Is Wheeljack an enemy?" story. Though done differently, it still involves the same character.

Sabrblade wrote:

Janus Prime wrote:You know what would be totally cool? If Wheeljack and Dreadwing were partners, killed Seaspray and had a plot to kill Optimus.

They already did the "Is Wheeljack an enemy?" story. Though done differently, it still involves the same character.

Ho yeah, I forgot all about that. I was just trying to think about a way this show could surprise me, since in all it´s episodes it hasn´t... but taking a bit of the story to outer space is actually very cool.

IMDB has David Kaye listed as jetfire. And its already been confirmed David kaye is in transformers prime. And the other twoactors have been in star trek which seems to be the trend. They touched on this in the tfcc mag.

magirus wrote:IMDB has David Kaye listed as jetfire. And its already been confirmed David kaye is in transformers prime. And the other twoactors have been in star trek which seems to be the trend. They touched on this in the tfcc mag.

IMDB has posted nothing but lies about new episodes of Prime, all of which were confirmed by the actual episodes themselves resembling nothing of what IMDB described upon their airing on TV.

Wow... I just can´t belive nothing happened... again!

Janus Prime wrote:Wow... I just can´t belive nothing happened... again!

Whaddya mean "nothing happened"? We got two new recurring/main characters.

This is no different that the Beast Wars episodes that gave us Tigatron, Airazor, Blackarachnia, Inferno, etc.

Plus, we got more character background, which is always a plus.

Well, that adds Roadbuster, Pyro, and Impactor to the list of casualties, and it confirms that Seaspray was a wrecker. Also, now there is another main Autobot and another main Decepticon. I hope Ironhide will stay too.

Optimus1116 wrote:Well, that adds Roadbuster, Pyro, and Impactor to the list of casualties, and it confirms that Seaspray was a wrecker. Also, now there is another main Autobot and another main Decepticon. I hope Ironhide will stay too.

You forgot Rotorstorm.



Well, it looks like the writers actually read the new comics, that's a plus. The minus is, the show is slow as hell, and there aren't many characters fully used in episodes - they are either just lurking in the background, or not showing up at all. The writers should ask for some advice from Roberts.

Chaoslock wrote:Well, it looks like the writers actually read the new comics, that's a plus.

More like they're probably just taking names from Hasbro's Binder of Revelation, which itself is an amalgamation of elements taken from past TF fiction prior to the year 2010.

Chaoslock wrote:The minus is, the show is slow as hell, and there aren't many characters fully used in episodes - they are either just lurking in the background, or not showing up at all. The writers should ask for some advice from Roberts.

Which main characters haven't gotten spotlighted yet?

Sabrblade wrote:

Chaoslock wrote:Well, it looks like the writers actually read the new comics, that's a plus.

More like they're probably just taking names from Hasbro's Binder of Revelation, which itself is an amalgamation of elements taken from past TF fiction prior to the year 2010.

Chaoslock wrote:The minus is, the show is slow as hell, and there aren't many characters fully used in episodes - they are either just lurking in the background, or not showing up at all. The writers should ask for some advice from Roberts.

Which main characters haven't gotten spotlighted yet?

Not "yet" - they should use more cast per episode, some variety.

Chaoslock wrote:Not "yet" - they should use more cast per episode, some variety.

You said some were just in the background or not showing up. Who are you referring to?

Optimus Prime/Orion Pax, Bumblebee, Arcee, Ratchet, Bulkhead, Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, Knock Out, Breakdown, the Vehicons, Airachnid, Jack, Miko, Raf, Fowler, June, Silas, and now Wheeljack and Dreadwing have all been used and focused on to an extent. Though, Soundwave's probably been given the least attention, but still. That's the whole main cast. How is there not variety among 19+ characters?

Sabrblade wrote:

Chaoslock wrote:Not "yet" - they should use more cast per episode, some variety.

You said some were just in the background or not showing up. Who are you referring to?

Optimus Prime/Orion Pax, Bumblebee, Arcee, Ratchet, Bulkhead, Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, Knock Out, Breakdown, the Vehicons, Airachnid, Jack, Miko, Raf, Fowler, June, Silas, and now Wheeljack and Dreadwing have all been used and focused on to an extent. Though, Soundwave's probably been given the least attention, but still. That's the whole main cast. How is there not variety among 19+ characters?

Clarifying: They have a relatively big cast, but they aren't using it in each episode how they should be used - for example, in the last episode, only Prime shows up to rescue Wheeljack, where's Arcee and Bumblebee? And why did Megatron simply wait with his hands folded to get his newest (and perhaps one of his most capable in a fight (since he doesn't have any more unique airborne heavy hitters now)) soldier get slagged? Did he get depressed?

In BW, there were lots of fights where both sides took all of their soldiers on the battlefield at once, but Prime lacks such battle royales.

Some positive thing:
Hitchhikers' Guide Reference!

Chaoslock wrote:Clarifying: They have a relatively big cast, but they aren't using it in each episode how they should be used - for example, in the last episode, only Prime shows up to rescue Wheeljack, where's Arcee and Bumblebee?

It's called specific character interaction. They brought in just Optimus becuase A) He was all that was needed for this mission, and B) So he and Wheeljack could have some spark-to-spark moments of getting to know and understand each other better. Bringing in more Autobots would have diminished the personal interation between Optimus and Wheeljack.

Plus, they all wouldn't have fit inside the Jackhammer together.

Chaoslock wrote:And why did Megatron simply wait with his hands folded to get his newest (and perhaps one of his most capable in a fight (since he doesn't have any more unique airborne heavy hitters now)) soldier get slagged? Did he get depressed?

Dreadwing wanted to have the chance of personally eliminating Optimus to prove himself to Megatron, and so Megatron agreed to let him, this time. But Dreadwing had also disobeyed Megatron's orders, and since Megatron was already doing fine without him, Megatron simply didn't care whether or not Dreadwing survived.

Chaoslock wrote:In BW, there were lots of fights where both sides took all of their soldiers on the battlefield at once, but Prime lacks such battle royales.

BW could do such grand scale fights since their war was no kept secret to the planet's populace. In this series, the Autobots try to keep the fights contained and as small scale as possible. The last thing they want is to draw attention to themselves and so must keep all the battles as minute as best they can.