burning_sirius wrote:Sabrblade, you are completely right in your post. I cannot agree with you more. The last episode had some great original banter. I hate it when people are uncreative and dredge up old banter. Now using old banter creatively, I approve of, but then it becomes a matter of taste. Some here hate Generation 1 and thus will never approve of G1 ever getting any nods. Sometimes they are right, and sometimes they are wrong. Video games are different imo in terms of writing given my support of using iconic phrases in FoC. I do not think Prime has beaten into the ground any Transformers phrasology. I mean 'Autobots Roll Out' is used a ton. I do not begrudge them for using that, or other phrases that can have duel meanings like 'Darkest Hour'. Obviously, this season will end on a very sour note, which I approve of.
The way something is used also plays a factor into this. An example of how an old quote was used in a unique and clever way would be in "Darkness Rising, Part 5", in which Ratchet said, "Then by all means, let us light our darkest hour." the context in which it was used shows he meant "light" as a metaphor for "blow up the space bridge to smithereens". But when they recreate Starscream's coronation scene in Fall of Cybertron and use all the exact same lines word-for-word with nothing new, it feels more like a ripoff of the original version rather than a new take on it.
Though, when I said that old quotes have been overused and run into the ground, I didn't mean to imply that TF: Prime or any one thing had done that. If it came across that way, I apologize. Rather, I meant to imply that many sources over the years have repeated the quotes so often that each new use of them feels unoriginal.
The worst offender, "One shall stand..." has been used at least thirteen times across different media and, as the years go by, its uses begin to pile up with each time it's repeated. Sometimes I wish a new ultimatum, like even one that's a new spin on this one, would be used.
The difference with something like "Transform and roll out" is that, unlike the movie quotes, it's something that was already said over and over from the get-go, so it's expected to be repeated like standard procedure. Like it's as common a military command as "Fire!" "Take cover!" "Retreat!" "Attack!" etc.