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cotss2012 wrote:Not a clue

My point exactly.

cotss2012 wrote:Okay... so... why do Megatron, Starscream, Bumblebee, Arcee, etc. look almost nothing alike between WfC and Prime? Why does Dark Energon have completely different properties between WfC and Prime? I assume there's some convoluted explanation, but it just doesn't seem as "aligned" as the name suggests.

Because Hasbro gave both the game creators and the show creators enough leeway for each to tell their own stories without having to rely too much on what the other party was doing. Basically, they each come with an idea for their respective stories, and then consult with Hasbro on whether or not they can use it, and/or how they can fit it in with contradicting Hasbro's overall plans for this continuity.

The two settings are spread apart by million and millions of years, which WFC/Exodus/Exiles/FOC set in the far ancient past, and Prime set in the present era. As more fiction is produced, there will be more connections made between the two time periods. For example, FOC uses the Prime designs of Cliffjumper's head, Optimus' gun, and the Nemesis. And Exiles added in Prime characters (such as Bulkhead, Makeshift, Wheeljack, Vehicons, etc.) to its roster, complete with the backstory info we knew about them in the show (Bulkhead a former Wrecker, Wheeljack a current Wrecker, etc.). After all, the season 1 finale of Prime made numerous callbacks to both Exodus and WFC that should now make their connection obvious.

As for those specific inquiries, body design changes aren't anything new in The Transformers. And Megatron's Generations toy bio states that he's always upgrading his body, which also jibes with how he's getting a new design in FOC.

With Dark Energon, notice how the show calls it the "Blood of Unicron", whereas the stuff in the games/books was called the "Sparks of Unicron". It can be assumed that the two may be different variants of Dark Energon. Not to mention that the Dark Energon in the show was a new supply from a different source than the Dark Energon of the games/books.

cotss2012 wrote:No. The general assumption at the time was that all of Evil Prowl's appearances after getting curb-stomped by Mumblebee were continuity errors, much like Skywarp and Thundercracker being present at Starscream's coronation in TFTM.

We last see him driving down the highway with Bonecrusher and Brawl. He swerves off the side till he disappears off screen, and then we see Optimus and Bonecrusher tussle. What we don't see is what had become of Barricade: He tried to go after Bumblebee again, but Ironhide took him out instead, causing him to crash off the side of the road and go offline. Starscream later came by after the Mission City battle and reactivated Barricade to serve him. More events followed between this time and the time when we see him in DOTM.

cotss2012 wrote:The movies made it clear that they tend to arrive in the form of flying turds.

But we never see how the Decepticons got there first. Or Bumblebee. Plus, only Bumblebee and Megatron flew there by themselves. The rest of the Movie 1 cast came in the Ark (not the same one from DOTM) and the Nemesis (not the same one from ROTF). While we don't know what happened to the Ark, we know that Starscream parked the Nemesis on Mars while he took a squadron down to Earth to search for the AllSpark (the rest of the crew stayed with the ship).

cotss2012 wrote:No. I was too confused by the continuity errors to worry about things that were unexplained but didn't really seem inconsistent with anything.

Yeah.

Though, even some of those continuity errors were explained in the comics too (though, there were still a few that were just too stupid to explain ).

cotss2012 wrote:Sorry, too busy trying to reconcile "Megatron started the war because of teh cube" with "The Fallen started the war because of teh matrix".

That all has to do with how Megatron came to serve The Fallen. The Fallen wanted the AllSpark's power and thus needed the Matrix to get it. But, he failed to take its power and so was imprisoned in his own sarcophagus by the other Primes. When his sarcophagus was discovered years later by the Autobots, it came into Megatron's possession. The Fallen went all Emperor Palpatine on Megatron, promising him power and filling him with delusions of grandeur. Now The Fallen's pupil, Megatron restarted the conflict over the AllSpark that his master had originally begun ages ago, naming his faction of followers after The Fallen's own group of followers: Decepticons.

So in other words, freelancers had to concoct huge amounts of bullshit to fill in the gaps in some not-very-well-planned-out "continuities", and even then, a lot of stuff was left to fan speculation.

See, this is why I prefer to sidestep anything that isn't a toy or a toy commercial. Fewer continuities = fewer continuity errors.

not that this will stop me from buying a legit copy of WFC so I can play as Slipstream in multiplayer...

cotss2012 wrote:So in other words, freelancers had to concoct huge amounts of bullshit to fill in the gaps in some not-very-well-planned-out "continuities", and even then, a lot of stuff was left to fan speculation.

See, this is why I prefer to sidestep anything that isn't a toy or a toy commercial. Fewer continuities = fewer continuity errors.

not that this will stop me from buying a legit copy of WFC so I can play as Slipstream in multiplayer...

IMHO,Their not Freelancers. a freelancer is a person who gets a temporay hire to do a specific job.

IMHO,most of the writters that help create & flesh out stories from hasbro. have permanent based jobs.

IMHO,most of the writters that help create video game stories & flesh out the characters in the game are permanent wokers of the video game company.

IMHO,From what I've read on the internet,more design sketch artist do freelance work. most writters have permanet jobs & get asked to write cartoon episodes for the entire cartoon series their being asked to write story episodes for.

IMHO,since most video games are one huge movie that gamers play & solve. the writters of these video game stories are not considerd freelancers. as these video game writters help create the story from start to finish. most of these video game writters are permanent employees of the company,they work on new projects all the time when they complete the previous project.

Tidalwavex wrote:

cotss2012 wrote:So in other words, freelancers had to concoct huge amounts of bullshit to fill in the gaps in some not-very-well-planned-out "continuities", and even then, a lot of stuff was left to fan speculation.

See, this is why I prefer to sidestep anything that isn't a toy or a toy commercial. Fewer continuities = fewer continuity errors.

not that this will stop me from buying a legit copy of WFC so I can play as Slipstream in multiplayer...

IMHO,Their not Freelancers. a freelancer is a person who gets a temporay hire to do a specific job.

IMHO,most of the writters that help create & flesh out stories from hasbro. have permanent based jobs.

IMHO,most of the writters that help create video game stories & flesh out the characters in the game are permanent wokers of the video game company.

IMHO,From what I've read on the internet,more design sketch artist do freelance work. most writters have permanet jobs & get asked to write cartoon episodes for the entire cartoon series their being asked to write story episodes for.

IMHO,since most video games are one huge movie that gamers play & solve. the writters of these video game stories are not considerd freelancers. as these video game writters help create the story from start to finish. most of these video game writters are permanent employees of the company,they work on new projects all the time when they complete the previous project.

Once again, Cotss proves he doesn't know as much as he let's on. The writers of all Transformers fiction do it as part of their professional careers as writers of fiction, not as temp jobs. Comic writer Simon Furman, in fact, has probably more contributions to TF fiction that any other writer ever, as it was he who established many iconic stories and many iconic aspects such as the nature of the Matrix of Leadership, Unicron's true origin as a god, Primus in general, etc. Why, he even wrote the final Beast Wars episode "Nemesis, Part 2".

Sabrblade wrote:The writers of all Transformers fiction do it as part of their professional careers as writers of fiction, not as temp jobs.

How many people specifically have had long-term jobs writing Transformers fiction, though? Nobody hires a doctor or seamstress to write for these shows/games/books/etc.

Sabrblade wrote:Simon Furman... wrote the final Beast Wars episode "Nemesis, Part 2".

Yes, I'm pretty sure that I mentioned that in another thread.

cotss2012 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:The writers of all Transformers fiction do it as part of their professional careers as writers of fiction, not as temp jobs.

How many people specifically have had long-term jobs writing Transformers fiction, though? Nobody hires a doctor or seamstress to write for these shows/games/books/etc.

Simon Furman
Bob Budiansky
Aaron Archer
Bob Forward
Larry DiTillio

Dead Metal wrote:Simon Furman
Bob Budiansky
Aaron Archer
Bob Forward
Larry DiTillio

Exactly. Not names that appear on the cover of "Reign of Starscream".

Have Bob Forward and Larry DiTillio done anything TF-related since Beast Wars? (serious question, not rhetorical)

cotss2012 wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:Simon Furman
Bob Budiansky
Aaron Archer
Bob Forward
Larry DiTillio

Exactly. Not names that appear on the cover of "Reign of Starscream".

Have Bob Forward and Larry DiTillio done anything TF-related since Beast Wars? (serious question, not rhetorical)

Yes, TFCC fiction and an episode of Animated.

Reign of Starscream went through 5 rewrites till the makers of the movies where happy with it so it wouldn't contradict anything of ROTF.

Dead Metal wrote:TFCC fiction

Keep in mind that I am fail @ acronyms...

cotss2012 wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:TFCC fiction

Keep in mind that I am fail @ acronyms...

Tranformers Collectors Club.

That's cool. Now what about MLP:FiM?

The ponies shall be rounded up and sent to the gas chambers at our earliest convenience.

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Prepare to experience the world of TRANSFORMERS PRIME like never before with perfect picture visuals and the purest digital sound available when the entire first season of the award-winning CGI animated series TRANSFORMERS PRIME arrives in stores everywhere in North America on March 6, 2012 in a deluxe 4-DVD set and a Limited Edition 4-Disc Blu-Ray™ collection from Shout! Factory, in collaboration with Hasbro Studios.

Both the DVD and Blu-Ray collections of TRANSFORMERS PRIME: THE COMPLETE FIRST SEASON boast all 26 action-packed episodes (including the 5-part miniseries Darkness Rising) and special bonus content. For a limited time only, TRANSFORMERS PRIME: THE COMPLETE FIRST SEASON Limited Edition 4-Disc Blu-Ray contains a 96-page IDW graphic novel based on this hit series.

Delivering a new level of heavy metal action and family entertainment for all ages, the limited edition Blu-Ray collection is priced to own at $64.99 SRP. The deluxe 4-DVD set is sold separately and has a suggested retail price of $ 29.93 SRP.

The TRANSFORMERS saga starts a new chapter as old foes return, legendary heroes rise, and new ones are found in unlikely places. The new EMMY Award winning series TRANSFORMERS PRIME, A Hasbro Studios production, currently airs on The HUB television network in the U.S. and Teletoons in Canada, deepens the epic mythology of both the AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS, while starting a new chapter for a new generation of fans.

In early 2011, loyal TRANSFORMERS fans, as well as families and kids, were introduced to this visually stunning five-part miniseries on The HUB. OPTIMUS PRIME, BUMBLEBEE, ARCEE, AUTOBOT RATCHET, BULKHEAD, and many others are back to "roll out" against MEGATRON's latest attempt to conquer Earth. And MEGATRON proves to be more powerful than ever, having acquired a rare element that allows him mastery over life itself. OPTIMUS PRIME and the AUTBOTS may be few against the DECEPTICON hordes, but they find increased strength through bonds forged with three human teenagers.

Season One of TRANSFORMERS PRIME boasts an all-star voice cast, including Peter Cullen, Frank Welker, Steve Blum, Jeffrey Combs, Adam Baldwin, Markie Post, Ernie Hudson, among other notables. TRANSFORMERS PRIME is produced by Hasbro Studios, with Alex Kurtzman, Roberto Orci and Jeff Kline serving as executive producers. Kurtzman and Orci served as writers for the feature films TRANSFORMERS and TRANSFORMERS: Revenge of the Fallen.

TRANSFORMERS PRIME recently garnered two Emmy® Awards for Outstanding Individual Achievement in Animation and six Emmy nominations.

TRANSFORMERS PRIME: THE COMPLETE FIRST SEASON
Bonus Content
Original Making of Special
Toy Featurette
Season Two Teaser Debuted at New York Comic-Con 2011
15 Audio Commentaries with the Creative Team and Voice Cast*

* Some of the participants in the audio commentaries include voice actors Peter Cullen, Jeffrey Combs, Ernie Hudson, Tania Gunadi, Josh Keaton, Sumalee Montano, and Andy Pessoa. Additional commentaries from creative team and executives which include Stephen Davis, Jeff Kline, Mike Vogel, Shaunt Nigoghossian and many other notables.


Technical Information
TRANSFORMERS PRIME: THE COMPLETE FIRST SEASON Blu-Ray Collection
Limited Edition 4-Disc Blu-Ray is packed with TRANSFORMERS PRIME graphic novel and bonus content
Street Date: March 6, 2012
Running Time: +/- 10 hours
Aspect Ratio: Anamorphic widescreen
Audio: English, Audio 5.1 Surround

TRANSFORMERS PRIME: THE COMPLETE FIRST SEASON DVD Set
4-DVD Set and bonus content
Street Date: March 6, 2012
Running Time: +/- 10 hours
Aspect Ratio: Anamorphic widescreen
Audio: English, Audio 5.1 Surround

About Hasbro
Hasbro, Inc. (NASDAQ: HAS) is a branded play company providing children and families around the world with a wide range of immersive entertainment offerings based on the Company’s world-class brand portfolio. From toys and games, to television programming, motion pictures, video games and a comprehensive licensing program, Hasbro strives to delight its customers through the strategic leveraging of well-known and beloved brands such as THE TRANSFORMERS, LITTLEST PET SHOP, NERF, PLAYSKOOL, MY LITTLE PONY, G.I. JOE, MAGIC: THE GATHERING and MONOPOLY. The Hub, Hasbro’s multiplatform joint venture with Discovery Communications (NASDAQ: DISCA, DISCB, DISCK) launched on October 10, 2010. The online home of The Hub is http://www.hubworld.com. The Hub logo and name are trademarks of Hub Television Networks, LLC. All rights reserved.

Come see how we inspire play through our brands at http://www.hasbro.com. © 2010 Hasbro, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

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Sweet. So we should also expect a pre-order for season 3 of Transformers Animated any day now?

Any day now....


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Any day now....
(rocks back and forth)

If all that's different content-wsie between the DVD and Blu-Ray is the Blu-Ray having the graphic novel, then I can just get the DVD (since I already own the graphic novel).

I think the omitting of the comic from the DVD set is bad form. It's bad enough that people have to pay The Hub a premium just to get the show, while others can't get it at all. Yet, on top of that, they expect people to pay even more to have the show, while others who haven't seen it are expected to plunk down their cold, hard cash sight unseen.

The least they could do is give everyone the comic.

Autobot032 wrote:I think the omitting of the comic from the DVD set is bad form. It's bad enough that people have to pay The Hub a premium just to get the show, while others can't get it at all. Yet, on top of that, they expect people to pay even more to have the show, while others who haven't seen it are expected to plunk down their cold, hard cash sight unseen.

The least they could do is give everyone the comic.

It's also gonna be available in a 2-pack with Starscream and Bumblebee in the Prime RID toyline.

And, it was made available in stores back before the Prime cartoon started. - http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=1600108326

I'll just stick with the regular DVD. 1) I don't have a blue-ray player and 2) from the displays I've seen in the past showing 3D animations side by side (regular and blue-ray) I rather dislike the crude sharpness blue-ray gives them.

It is dumb though that the blue-ray comes with the comic and the regular DVD doesn't. Guess it's Hasbro's way of trying to make it seem worth while buying

Shout! Factory just sent me an email with the following information about the audio commentaries.

Some of the participants in the audio commentaries include voice actors Peter Cullen, Jeffrey Combs, Ernie Hudson, Tania Gunadi, Josh Keaton, Sumalee Montano, and Andy Pessoa. Additional commentaries from creative team and executives which include Stephen Davis, Jeff Kline, Mike Vogel, Shaunt Nigoghossian and many other notables.

Am I the only one who finds the price on this to be a bit high?

I will buy the blue ray collection only if the French version is included. Of course, I'll prefer the original english, but I will not be able to share the awesomness of TF Prime with my French speaking friends and family.

Im just getting the DVd and the comic seperate. the Blu ray cost too friggen much.

For Immediate Release

TRANSFORMERS PRIME: THE COMPLETE FIRST SEASON
Featuring Over 10 Hours of Non-Stop Action, Special Bonus Content and More!

THE COLLECTIBLE 4-DVD SET & LIMITED EDITION 4-DISC BLU-RAY™ COLLECTION - PACKED WITH A 96-PAGE GRAPHIC NOVEL

OWN IT ON MARCH 6, 2012 FROM SHOUT! FACTORY



Prepare to experience the world of TRANSFORMERS PRIME like never before with perfect picture visuals and the purest digital sound available when the entire first season of the award-winning CGI animated series TRANSFORMERS PRIME arrives in stores everywhere in North America on March 6, 2012 in a deluxe 4-DVD set and a Limited Edition 4-Disc Blu-ray™ collection from Shout! Factory, in collaboration with Hasbro Studios.

Both the DVD and Blu-ray collections of TRANSFORMERS PRIME: THE COMPLETE FIRST SEASON boast all 26 action-packed episodes (including the 5-part miniseries Darkness Rising) and special bonus content. For a limited time only, TRANSFORMERS PRIME: THE COMPLETE FIRST SEASON Limited Edition 4-Disc Blu-ray contains a 96-page IDW graphic novel based on this hit series.

(Support Seibertron.com by ordering from our Shout! Factory affiliate links below!)

Transformers Prime: Season One [Limited Edition] (Blu-ray)


Transformers Prime: Season One (DVD)


Delivering a new level of heavy metal action and family entertainment for all ages, the limited edition Blu-ray collection is priced to own at $64.99 SRP. The deluxe 4-DVD set is sold separately and has a suggested retail price of $ 29.93 SRP.

The TRANSFORMERS saga starts a new chapter as old foes return, legendary heroes rise, and new ones are found in unlikely places. The new EMMY Award winning series TRANSFORMERS PRIME, A Hasbro Studios production, currently airs on The HUB television network in the U.S. and Teletoons in Canada, deepens the epic mythology of both the AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS, while starting a new chapter for a new generation of fans.

In early 2011, loyal TRANSFORMERS fans, as well as families and kids, were introduced to this visually stunning five-part miniseries on The HUB. Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Arcee, AUTOBOT Ratchet, Bulkhead, and many others are back to "roll out" against Megatron's latest attempt to conquer Earth. And Megatron proves to be more powerful than ever, having acquired a rare element that allows him mastery over life itself. OPTIMUS PRIME and the AUTBOTS may be few against the Decepticon hordes, but they find increased strength through bonds forged with three human teenagers.

Season One of TRANSFORMERS PRIME boasts an all-star voice cast, including Peter Cullen, Frank Welker, Steve Blum, Jeffrey Combs, Adam Baldwin, Markie Post, Ernie Hudson, among other notables. TRANSFORMERS PRIME is produced by Hasbro Studios, with Alex Kurtzman, Roberto Orci and Jeff Kline serving as executive producers. Kurtzman and Orci served as writers for the feature films TRANSFORMERS and TRANSFORMERS: Revenge of the Fallen.

TRANSFORMERS PRIME recently garnered two Emmy® Awards for Outstanding Individual Achievement in Animation and six Emmy nominations.

TRANSFORMERS PRIME: THE COMPLETE FIRST SEASON
Bonus Content
Original Making of Special
15 Audio Commentaries with the Creative Team and Voice Cast
Toy Featurette
Season Two Teaser Debuted at New York Comic-Con 2011


Technical Information
TRANSFORMERS PRIME: THE COMPLETE FIRST SEASON Blu-ray Collection (Pre-order here)
Limited Edition 4-Disc Blu-ray is packed with TRANSFORMERS PRIME graphic novel and bonus content
Street Date: March 6, 2012
Running Time: +/- 10 hours
Aspect Ratio: Anamorphic widescreen
Audio: English, Audio 5.1 Surround

TRANSFORMERS PRIME: THE COMPLETE FIRST SEASON DVD Set (Pre-order here)
4-DVD Set and bonus content
Street Date: March 6, 2012
Running Time: +/- 10 hours
Aspect Ratio: Anamorphic widescreen
Audio: English, Audio 5.1 Surround

About Hasbro
Hasbro, Inc. (NASDAQ: HAS) is a branded play company providing children and families around the world with a wide range of immersive entertainment offerings based on the Company’s world-class brand portfolio. From toys and games, to television programming, motion pictures, video games and a comprehensive licensing program, Hasbro strives to delight its customers through the strategic leveraging of well-known and beloved brands such as THE TRANSFORMERS, LITTLEST PET SHOP, NERF, PLAYSKOOL, MY LITTLE PONY, G.I. JOE, MAGIC: THE GATHERING and MONOPOLY. The Hub, Hasbro’s multiplatform joint venture with Discovery Communications (NASDAQ: DISCA, DISCB, DISCK) launched on October 10, 2010. The online home of The Hub is http://www.hubworld.com. The Hub logo and name are trademarks of Hub Television Networks, LLC. All rights reserved.

Come see how we inspire play through our brands at http://www.hasbro.com. © 2010 Hasbro, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

About Shout! Factory
Shout! Factory is a diversified entertainment company devoted to producing, uncovering and revitalizing the very best of pop culture. Founders Richard Foos, Bob Emmer and Garson Foos have spent their careers sharing their music, television and film faves with discerning consumers the world over. Shout! Factory’s DVD offerings serve up classic, contemporary and cult TV series, riveting sports programs, live music, animation and documentaries in lavish packages crammed with extras. The company’s audio catalogue boasts GRAMMY®-nominated boxed sets, new releases from storied artists, lovingly assembled album reissues and indispensable “best of” compilations. These riches are the result of a creative acquisitions mandate that has established the company as a hotbed of cultural preservation and commercial reinvention. Shout! Factory is based in Santa Monica, California. For more on Shout! Factory, visit shoutfactory.com.

Emmy® is the trademark property of the Academy for Television Arts & Sciences/ The National Academy for Television Arts & Sciences. Grammy® is the registered trademark of the national Academy of Recording Arts & Sciences, Inc.

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I may just have to get this.

Bought. On. SIGHT! i love this series, and just with Season 1 alone? S.2 is going to be epic.