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Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise (2015) Products Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:45 am

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Cobotron wrote:Oh! PCC. I could see that. Maybe that style of combining would offer up a little more articulation.

If there is automorphing, then you usually get less articulation. The PCC toys had no articulation :( (and neither do Power Ranger zords)
Some zords and megazords of the past have had some kind of articulation.
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Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise (2015) Products Thread

Postby kurthy » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:46 am

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Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise (2015) Products Thread

Postby Cobotron » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:47 am

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Cobotron wrote:Oh! PCC. I could see that. Maybe that style of combining would offer up a little more articulation.

If there is automorphing, then you usually get less articulation. The PCC toys had no articulation :( (and neither do Power Ranger zords)
True, true. I was thinking of shoulder articulation mostly. These could be really good or really not. Only time can tell.

I agree too though that, "The kids will love'em". Oh the kids. :D

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Sabrblade wrote:]Some zords and megazords of the past have had some kind of articulation.
Ya. Come to think of it, I have a few older ones with elbows.
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Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise (2015) Products Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:53 am

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Galvatronus I can't say I was expecting... peeps are gonna hate me for this, but I'm kind of expecting Victorion now.
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Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise (2015) Products Thread

Postby Stuartmaximus » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:55 am

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Kurona wrote:Galvatronus I can't say I was expecting... peeps are gonna hate me for this, but I'm kind of expecting Victorion now.


Aye but was that not a fan selected or fan created one though :-?
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Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise (2015) Products Thread

Postby RAR » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:55 am

The mechanims in the PCC drones did inhibit motion and so cause a lack of functional elbows but they had fully mobile shoulders and some had opening hands. you can certainly pose them a lot they have waists, usually pretty mobile heads, knees, decent enough hips and so on.

I would be shocked if the $35.00 Combiners are that well jointed. I'm sure they will be an interesting talking point though.
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Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise (2015) Products Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:57 am

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Kurona wrote:Galvatronus I can't say I was expecting... peeps are gonna hate me for this, but I'm kind of expecting Victorion now.


Aye but was that not a fan selected or fan created one though :-?

I say so because of the fan-created part - of the many things fans chose for Victorion (like her gender, faction, component vehicles etc.) was what her rival should be. And - while this has unfortunately barely shown up in fiction at all yet - the fans chose Galvatronus to be her rival.
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Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise (2015) Products Thread

Postby Sigma Magnus » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:59 am

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While this is neat, and I'm excited to see the toys...those character models for the larger combiners look absolutely awful. :SICK:
Why do all the good things have to hurt my wallet...
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Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise (2015) Products Thread

Postby Cobotron » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:00 am

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RAR wrote:The mechanims in the PCC drones did inhibit motion and so cause a lack of functional elbows but they had fully mobile shoulders and some had opening hands. you can certainly pose them a lot they have waists, usually pretty mobile heads, knees, decent enough hips and so on.

I would be shocked if the $35.00 Combiners are that well jointed. I'm sure they will be an interesting talking point though.
Ya. They did have knees, and the ports as articulation worked pretty well. I know PCC was not well loved, but I think they are pretty neat toys. Toys being the key word.

I'm doubting these RID Combos will have knees.
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Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise (2015) Products Thread

Postby Stuartmaximus » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:04 am

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I hope they don't go all PCC, i can't remember if that pic we saw of Grimlock half transformed that would form the bottom half of the Bee Combiner has just two modes....his dinosaur & Bee's Combiner legs or if he has a robot mode :-?

If it's just the two....then it'll prob be all PCC like
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Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise (2015) Products Thread

Postby RAR » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:16 am

I guess I like them as they were what I keep saying I want "Original Characters". and they had Minicons too which is always nice.
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Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise (2015) Products Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:18 am

What worries me is how that Grimlock component looks to be just the legs, where's the rest of him?!
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Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise (2015) Products Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:27 am

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william-james88 wrote:What worries me is how that Grimlock component looks to be just the legs, where's the rest of him?!
I see Grimlock's beast mode head, neck, torso, and arms. Looks like his tail disappears where the combiner feet are.
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Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise (2015) Products Thread

Postby Stuartmaximus » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:46 am

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So it looks like we're getting 2 different sizes of Cyclonus then! one Legion & one larger that forms the torso of the combiner

it can't & it won't! but wouldn't it be funny if the legion Cyclonus could form one of the limbs of Galvatronus
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Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise (2015) Products Thread

Postby MrBlack » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:49 am

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The in-game models don't seem to look much like the images on the left side of each picture (which look more like in-show models). The Soundwave on the left, for instance, has a face much more reminiscent of his G1 look than the more Prime-esque look on the in-game model.

More importantly, take a look at the highlighted images on the left for Shocknado and Galvatronus. Shocknado looks much more like G1 Galvatron, while Galvatronus looks more like G1 Cyclonus, or at least an amalgam of Cyclonus and Galvatron.
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Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise (2015) Products Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:02 am

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Also, how have we not said anything about this yet?

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Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise (2015) Products Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:11 pm

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MrBlack wrote:The in-game models don't seem to look much like the images on the left side of each picture (which look more like in-show models). The Soundwave on the left, for instance, has a face much more reminiscent of his G1 look than the more Prime-esque look on the in-game model.
Pretty sure the left side ones are from the toys' packaging art.
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Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise (2015) Products Thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:02 pm

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Lunar Force Combiner? Sounds like an exclusive line of redecos. Target maybe? Or perhaps Walmart finally gets a shot :lol:

Shocknado looks like a redeco of Skyhammer, and a Decepticon one at that. Shockwave/Shockblast and Tornado is what I'll be guessing for the names.

Dragbreak... Guess I was wrong, it is a single pack, with Drag Strip/Dragstar and Wildbreak. What are the odds of seeing the other two?

Hi-Test is partnered with Combiner Optimus Prime, guess that comes close to a "Hi-Q" reference.

We already know about Activator Combiner Soundwave, but why is Laserbeak classified as a Torpedo and not as an Activator?

Galvatronus should indeed be Cyclonus... but what intrigues me is that he seems to have 5 members instead of the predicted 4 for the rest. Also, each limb has a different accent color. The arms are indeed Air/Jet Vehicons, so the legs must be another type.

I wonder how the legs work on Menasor. And "Ultrabee"... *groans* Bumblebee's inability to come up with something cool strikes again :lol:
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Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise (2015) Products Thread

Postby Bronzewolf » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:24 pm

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Sigma Magnus wrote:While this is neat, and I'm excited to see the toys...those character models for the larger combiners look absolutely awful. :SICK:

Thank you! They do look terrible. Those legs are like toothpicks.

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Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise (2015) Products Thread

Postby Stuartmaximus » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:48 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Lunar Force Combiner? Sounds like an exclusive line of redecos. Target maybe? Or perhaps Walmart finally gets a shot :lol:

Shocknado looks like a redeco of Skyhammer, and a Decepticon one at that. Shockwave/Shockblast and Tornado is what I'll be guessing for the names.

Dragbreak... Guess I was wrong, it is a single pack, with Drag Strip/Dragstar and Wildbreak. What are the odds of seeing the other two?

Hi-Test is partnered with Combiner Optimus Prime, guess that comes close to a "Hi-Q" reference.

We already know about Activator Combiner Soundwave, but why is Laserbeak classified as a Torpedo and not as an Activator?

Galvatronus should indeed be Cyclonus... but what intrigues me is that he seems to have 5 members instead of the predicted 4 for the rest. Also, each limb has a different accent color. The arms are indeed Air/Jet Vehicons, so the legs must be another type.

I wonder how the legs work on Menasor. And "Ultrabee"... *groans* Bumblebee's inability to come up with something cool strikes again :lol:


Eh the legs are vehicons(unless it's two halves of a vehicon) that's why they have wheels
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Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise (2015) Products Thread

Postby GalvatronG1 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:48 pm

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Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise (2015) Products Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:52 pm

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rockman_fan wrote:good lord that sideswipe looks bad. his torso is literally a flat panel screwed onto a frame. and not even screwed on right, his legs are misaligned.


It's nice to see some rotation in a One-step you don't often get that.

It looks like the knees up are on a hinge system so the chest is the nose of the car and I like the elbows he has - it seems he spins at the knees.

But I really would prefer some more Decepticons - heck they could do a much better job with Thunderhoof - or at least repaint him a bit.

They never made a Megatronus One step so that would be worth doing as would Starscream.

I think that Shark one would work really well as a one-step too.

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Also why not make Rescue Bots onesteps in with the RID line ?


Which Sideswipe featured the rotation? Also Blurr and the newer Sideswipe are part of the Combiner Force Wave 2 One-Step Changers. Bee, Drift, and Prime are wave one.
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Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise (2015) Products Thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:12 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:Which Sideswipe featured the rotation? Also Blurr and the newer Sideswipe are part of the Combiner Force Wave 2 One-Step Changers. Bee, Drift, and Prime are wave one.


The first is the switchblade type, the second is the car jack type, and it's the third that has the rotation. Twist the back spoiler and the whole body from the knees up twists along.
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Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise (2015) Products Thread

Postby RAR » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:00 am

Yep.
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Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise (2015) Products Thread

Postby Black Hat » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:53 am

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Part of me wanted to believe in the possibility of CW-compatible RID styled Stunticons (and thus a non-terrible Menasor torso be available) but it looks like they're going for both the legs being formed from one robot. And on top of that, even if by some miracle they were CW compatible, they'd be even flimsier than CW toys. :(

Argh. Being a combiner fan who doesn't like CW sucks. I just want good CHUG scaled combiners, damnit!
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