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News Credits: 95 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Thu May 14, 2015 9:00 pm

Rated X wrote:(...) do we really need a different Bumblebee for every year from ages 2-10 ???

Back then we got one Topspin, one Runabout, one Banzitron. Not 5 different versions encouraging kids not to exercise their brains.

THAT, I can agree with. There is so many characters possible in the TF universe. Yet, it's always the same 5 that are done over and over. AoE is a great offender in that regard by repeating the Bots in every single classes (Except leader). I can give a free pass on legion/cyberverse/legend class. However, bring on Power Battlers, one steps, deluxes, voyagers, and leaders! But try to make only 1 or 2 times the character per lines, shall we? With some being available in only one class. That way, we would have way more variety and newcomers will have more characters to discover.

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Thu May 14, 2015 10:59 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:THAT, I can agree with. There is so many characters possible in the TF universe. Yet, it's always the same 5 that are done over and over. AoE is a great offender in that regard by repeating the Bots in every single classes (Except leader). I can give a free pass on legion/cyberverse/legend class. However, bring on Power Battlers, one steps, deluxes, voyagers, and leaders! But try to make only 1 or 2 times the character per lines, shall we? With some being available in only one class. That way, we would have way more variety and newcomers will have more characters to discover.

Hasbro is showing signs of improvement. The Rid2015 toy line so far only has Three returning same characters.

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Fri May 15, 2015 12:30 am

Rated X wrote:
Rated X wrote:dumbed down versions of the same character big brother has.

So with that being said, do we really need a different Bumblebee for every year from ages 2-10 ???

Back then we got one Topspin, one Runabout, one Banzitron. Not 5 different versions encouraging kids not to exercise their brains.

List of G1 Optimus Prime toys (not including modern remakes)

Original
Powermaster
Action Master
Transform Jr Convoy (Japanese only release)
Star Convoy
G2 Hero Optimus Prime
G2 Laser Optimus Prime
Go-Bot Optimus Prime

List of G1 Bumblebee toys

Original yellow
Original red
Goldbug
Pretender
Action Master
Go-Bot

List of G1 Grimlock toys

Original
Pretender
Action Master

List of G1 Wheeljack toys

Original
Action Master

List of G1 Jazz toys

Original
Pretender
Action Master

List of G1 Starscream toys

Original
Pretender
Action Master

I AGREE that having the same 5 characters in 5 different classes on shelves at once is annoying, but let's not pretend that multiple toys for the same character is a new concept.

News Credits: 95 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Fri May 15, 2015 4:24 am

That Bot wrote:
Rated X wrote:So with that being said, do we really need a different Bumblebee for every year from ages 2-10 ???

Back then we got one Topspin, one Runabout, one Banzitron. Not 5 different versions encouraging kids not to exercise their brains.

List of G1 Optimus Prime toys (not including modern remakes)
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I AGREE that having the same 5 characters in 5 different classes on shelves at once is annoying, but let's not pretend that multiple toys for the same character is a new concept.

I hate to defend the X on that. Sure, those G1 toys did remake the same characters a few times. But did they appeared TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME ON THE SAME SHELVES? No, they did not. Some of these figures are years appart. G1 is not a line. It's a generation composed of multiple lines.
Since around 2007, it's the Clone Wars on the shelves...

News Credits: 4501 · by **william-james88** » Fri May 15, 2015 7:32 am

We had provided an article listing every Robots in Disguise figure that was yet to be announced and it seems we are now slowly getting the first images of these foretold products.

The first images, provided by listings from Redmercury, to come out for these new figures are those of Transformers Robots in Disguise One Step Night Ops Bumblebee and Ninja Sideswipe. These two are redecos of the previously released One Step Bumblebee and Sideswipe figures. I included an image of the foretold deco of the later for comparison.

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Fri May 15, 2015 8:28 am

Ninja Sideswipe sure looks like one wild rider.

by **Shuttershock** » Fri May 15, 2015 10:37 am

carytheone wrote:Ninja Sideswipe sure looks like one wild rider.

Also a little bit of Windcharger in not mode.

by **Siger** » Fri May 15, 2015 10:55 am

william-james88 wrote:
Siger wrote:Don't want them even with the price drop. I guess Hasbro's strategy to grab little kids and neglect the adult collectors backfired on them.

You call the Masterpiece line and Combiner Wars neglect?

No, I'm talking about their sales expectation and realization. I don't think they neglected adult collectors on the whole. Just that several major product lines probably failed their sales forecast.

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Fri May 15, 2015 1:09 pm

william-james88 wrote:We had provided an article listing every Robots in Disguise figure that was yet to be announced and it seems we are now slowly getting the first images of these foretold products.

The first images, provided by listings from Redmercury, to come out for these new figures are those of Transformers Robots in Disguise One Step Night Ops Bumblebee and Ninja Sideswipe. These two are redecos of the previously released One Step Bumblebee and Sideswipe figures. I included an image of the foretold deco of the later for comparison.

These colors look good. Since I don't have either figure yet I just might pick these two up

by **BlueBefore** » Fri May 15, 2015 1:17 pm

Siger wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Siger wrote:Don't want them even with the price drop. I guess Hasbro's strategy to grab little kids and neglect the adult collectors backfired on them.

You call the Masterpiece line and Combiner Wars neglect?

No, I'm talking about their sales expectation and realization. I don't think they neglected adult collectors on the whole. Just that several major product lines probably failed their sales forecast.

I'm pretty glad that kiddie line Combiner Wars is among them.
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/generations-combiner-wars-wave-1-price-drop-at-walmart/32913/

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Fri May 15, 2015 1:22 pm

BlueBefore wrote:
Siger wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Siger wrote:Don't want them even with the price drop. I guess Hasbro's strategy to grab little kids and neglect the adult collectors backfired on them.

You call the Masterpiece line and Combiner Wars neglect?

No, I'm talking about their sales expectation and realization. I don't think they neglected adult collectors on the whole. Just that several major product lines probably failed their sales forecast.

I'm pretty glad that kiddie line Combiner Wars is among them.
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/generations-combiner-wars-wave-1-price-drop-at-walmart/32913/

... except that price drop is temporary, and doesn't mean anything in the long run anyway.

by **BlueBefore** » Fri May 15, 2015 2:10 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
BlueBefore wrote:
Siger wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Siger wrote:Don't want them even with the price drop. I guess Hasbro's strategy to grab little kids and neglect the adult collectors backfired on them.

You call the Masterpiece line and Combiner Wars neglect?

No, I'm talking about their sales expectation and realization. I don't think they neglected adult collectors on the whole. Just that several major product lines probably failed their sales forecast.

I'm pretty glad that kiddie line Combiner Wars is among them.
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/generations-combiner-wars-wave-1-price-drop-at-walmart/32913/

... except that price drop is temporary, and doesn't mean anything in the long run anyway.

And what evidence do you have that the RiD one isn't any more permanent? What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

News Credits: 4501 · by **william-james88** » Fri May 15, 2015 2:15 pm

BlueBefore wrote:And what evidence do you have that the RiD one isn't any more permanent? What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

The RID isnt permanent. The user who called it in said it was only on until May 30 when he went back to recheck the in store markers.

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Fri May 15, 2015 2:21 pm

william-james88 wrote:
BlueBefore wrote:And what evidence do you have that the RiD one isn't any more permanent? What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

The RID isnt permanent. The user who called it in said it was only on until May 30 when he went back to recheck the in store markers.

I'll verify that for a dollar!

by **BlueBefore** » Fri May 15, 2015 2:21 pm

william-james88 wrote:
BlueBefore wrote:And what evidence do you have that the RiD one isn't any more permanent? What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

The RID isnt permanent. The user who called it in said it was only on until May 30 when he went back to recheck the in store markers.

Thanks.

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Fri May 15, 2015 3:01 pm

BBTS has Jazz and Sideswipe in stock. I just ordered them since this is the only place I can find selling the two outside of the case.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Sat May 16, 2015 5:35 am

Via the Mexican Hasbro Transformers site, we have stock images of the new Titan Changers Optimus Prime and Bumblebee from the Robots in Disguise animated show, with not much more information. The much reviled - by some parts of the Transformers collector community - Titan line (not the class) appears to be expanding, adding some more articulation and a 4-step transformation to their 'shampoo bottle' aesthetics! Check them out mirrored below.

by **BlueBefore** » Sat May 16, 2015 5:48 am

Why do you guys even share this stuff if you are just going to repeat yourself ad infinitum?

News Credits: 95 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sat May 16, 2015 5:58 am

Dear lord... Proportions are all off with these lanky, lean, post-like tall bodies! Still, they do transform and if the price is right, these could be lil' Timmy's first Transformers. The kid will have lot of fun and would surely move on to more complex TFs with age. So, if these oddballs TRANSFORMABLE TFs could replace the horrible and pointless champoo bottles, it will be all good.

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Sat May 16, 2015 6:00 am

BlueBefore wrote:Why do you guys even share this stuff if you are just going to repeat yourself ad infinitum?

Who is repeating what? Are you maybe confused with seeing the front page news posts appear as regular forum posts in the thread?

4-step changing titans. Well, they look slightly better than the previous assortments, I guess. They may trump the 3-steppers in complexity and articulation, which is kind of sad.

by **BlueBefore** » Sat May 16, 2015 6:08 am

That Bot wrote:
BlueBefore wrote:Why do you guys even share this stuff if you are just going to repeat yourself ad infinitum?

Who is repeating what? Are you maybe confused with seeing the front page news posts appear as regular forum posts in the thread?

No, that's not it. Everyone is repeating everyone else. It's a huge waste of resources which could be solved by not sharing this stuff at all.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Sat May 16, 2015 6:12 am

BlueBefore wrote:
That Bot wrote:
BlueBefore wrote:Why do you guys even share this stuff if you are just going to repeat yourself ad infinitum?

Who is repeating what? Are you maybe confused with seeing the front page news posts appear as regular forum posts in the thread?
No, that's not it. Everyone is repeating everyone else. It's a huge waste of resources which could be solved by not sharing this stuff at all.

Could you please clarify what you mean exactly? Is it about the news reporting, or something else? :-?

by **BlueBefore** » Sat May 16, 2015 6:14 am

Va'al wrote:
BlueBefore wrote:
That Bot wrote:
BlueBefore wrote:Why do you guys even share this stuff if you are just going to repeat yourself ad infinitum?

Who is repeating what? Are you maybe confused with seeing the front page news posts appear as regular forum posts in the thread?
No, that's not it. Everyone is repeating everyone else. It's a huge waste of resources which could be solved by not sharing this stuff at all.

Could you please clarify what you mean exactly? Is it about the news reporting, or something else?

I mean repeating "hurr hurr shampoo bottles" over and over again is a waste.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Sat May 16, 2015 6:26 am

Ah, so it's with the style of reporting. I was just trying something a little different, and it's a lighthearted morning in the UK.

But note taken, thank you for your feedback!

News Credits: 4501 · by **william-james88** » Sat May 16, 2015 6:32 am

I am baffled by these. Isn't this cannibalising the hyperchange line? It's even the very same characters. Also, the hyperchange ones looks way better in m opinion, these have really wonky proportions. And check out Optimus' arms!