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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:58 pm

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Well, I messed around with Megatron and Jetfire, and both are sort of weird to me.

Both look FANTASTIC in robot mode, like perfect, I could not be happier with either in robot mode. I wish Jetfire could hold his axe a little lower, but it's still really good. I like the fact that the cane actually tabs in somewhere and is stable. And everything about Megatron's robot mode is great!

But then we get to posing, transformation, and alternate modes.

Jetfire's posability is really good, so no complaints on him. But Megatron, come on, why did you design his thigh this way??? He is so hard to pose cause his thighs are only on highly restricted ball joints. For some reason, SIEGE is making leaps and bounds with posability, but STUDIO SERIES seems to be getting worse. Why?????

Megatron can transform, but the back is really finnicky in 2 spots with the tank, and he refuses to hold together back there without a lot of scary force, scary cause of how bendy all that plastic is. But once you get him there, he is really cool. I love him save for that once section of transformation and his thighs.

Jetfire, wow, Jetfire is BAD. I have tried 3 times over the course of 4 hours, and I have not gotten him into jet mode yet. His legs refuse to work, they refuse to tab in straight. I cannot get his legs and arms to tab into jet mode in ANY location, and his front and back parts of his legs will not align either. I have yet to see a good jet mode out of him, and it's so depressing! He just won't cooperate!
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:31 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Well, I messed around with Megatron and Jetfire, and both are sort of weird to me.

Both look FANTASTIC in robot mode, like perfect, I could not be happier with either in robot mode. I wish Jetfire could hold his axe a little lower, but it's still really good. I like the fact that the cane actually tabs in somewhere and is stable. And everything about Megatron's robot mode is great!

But then we get to posing, transformation, and alternate modes.

Jetfire's posability is really good, so no complaints on him. But Megatron, come on, why did you design his thigh this way??? He is so hard to pose cause his thighs are only on highly restricted ball joints. For some reason, SIEGE is making leaps and bounds with posability, but STUDIO SERIES seems to be getting worse. Why?????

Megatron can transform, but the back is really finnicky in 2 spots with the tank, and he refuses to hold together back there without a lot of scary force, scary cause of how bendy all that plastic is. But once you get him there, he is really cool. I love him save for that once section of transformation and his thighs.

Jetfire, wow, Jetfire is BAD. I have tried 3 times over the course of 4 hours, and I have not gotten him into jet mode yet. His legs refuse to work, they refuse to tab in straight. I cannot get his legs and arms to tab into jet mode in ANY location, and his front and back parts of his legs will not align either. I have yet to see a good jet mode out of him, and it's so depressing! He just won't cooperate!

That's a shame to hear about megs, I passed on him, cuz he felt like such a downgrade from the dotm voyager, and now, I'm not sure if I'll even bother.

As for jetfire, he takes a ton of work to get together, if you can get the feet to tab in properly to the thigh - or wherever - then it should make the legs rigid; as for the rest, it's all up to the pathetic back panels, I don't think all the measurements made on the tabs were accurate. The parts above his shoulders in bot mode actually keep the entire vehicle mode together, they tab the shoulders to the legs and 'lock' in with the rest of the fuselage; but they don't match up, or, at the very least the shoulders just won't stay tabbed in.

Fortunately, his vehicle mode is the least interesting mode, and his bot mode is so expressive and poseable that it doesn't even feel like a loss - especially since it's a combiner :KREMZEEK:
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:35 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:That's a shame to hear about megs, I passed on him, cuz he felt like such a downgrade from the dotm voyager, and now, I'm not sure if I'll even bother.

As for jetfire, he takes a ton of work to get together, if you can get the feet to tab in properly to the thigh - or wherever - then it should make the legs rigid; as for the rest, it's all up to the pathetic back panels, I don't think all the measurements made on the tabs were accurate. The parts above his shoulders in bot mode actually keep the entire vehicle mode together, they tab the shoulders to the legs and 'lock' in with the rest of the fuselage; but they don't match up, or, at the very least the shoulders just won't stay tabbed in.

Fortunately, his vehicle mode is the least interesting mode, and his bot mode is so expressive and poseable that it doesn't even feel like a loss - especially since it's a combiner :KREMZEEK:

See, Megatron is the better of the 2 to me. I wish he had more of his old toy posability, but the new looks is definitely better overall.

Jetfire annoys me cause I haven't been able to find Prime or Bonecrusher, and those are the only 2 figures from wave 1 I need to find period. I want to make Jet Prime, especially since Jetfire's jet mode is so disappointing
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:54 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:That's a shame to hear about megs, I passed on him, cuz he felt like such a downgrade from the dotm voyager, and now, I'm not sure if I'll even bother.

As for jetfire, he takes a ton of work to get together, if you can get the feet to tab in properly to the thigh - or wherever - then it should make the legs rigid; as for the rest, it's all up to the pathetic back panels, I don't think all the measurements made on the tabs were accurate. The parts above his shoulders in bot mode actually keep the entire vehicle mode together, they tab the shoulders to the legs and 'lock' in with the rest of the fuselage; but they don't match up, or, at the very least the shoulders just won't stay tabbed in.

Fortunately, his vehicle mode is the least interesting mode, and his bot mode is so expressive and poseable that it doesn't even feel like a loss - especially since it's a combiner :KREMZEEK:

See, Megatron is the better of the 2 to me. I wish he had more of his old toy posability, but the new looks is definitely better overall.

Jetfire annoys me cause I haven't been able to find Prime or Bonecrusher, and those are the only 2 figures from wave 1 I need to find period. I want to make Jet Prime, especially since Jetfire's jet mode is so disappointing

Prime's instock on pulse, you could use your 1-day shipping and have jetfire-prime by monday ;)

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby UnderYourCloset » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:36 pm

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When I got Blackout I had to use an X-acto knife the first time I transformed him to remove excess plastic in areas. Otherwise his leg wouldn't have been able to twist and he just wouldn't have been able to transform at all. Maybe Jetfire just needs some of that? Cuz after my first transformation for Blackout he's become fairly easy besides the couple areas that like to pop apart, but I can add some superglue to a couple of tabs to make it sturdier. Unless those tabs need to be shaved down instead because many times tabs pop apart because they're too big, not because they're too loose.

I just hope 38 Optimus will be good. Besides Clunker Bee who should be here on Monday, that geewuun style movie Optimus is the only one I'm really after in Studio Series. I have him preordered from Amazon too. Besides him and Clunker Bee, I wanna focus on getting that gorgeous Siege Springer and Redwing if he's real.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby william-james88 » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:46 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:Man, pre-orders aren't even up for those guys, how messed up does distribution have to be to have these guys stateside before e-tailers even have orders up for them :???:

Thats pretty standard actually. Walmart has a certain anti competition clause with Hasbro on online orders. I dont know the gist of it well but I know it exists. Hasbro's been able to circumvent it recently for the reveals of Toyfair 2018.
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Studio Series Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime and Rampage Out at Wide US Retail

Postby william-james88 » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:57 pm

We have amazing news for all those who just could not wait to get their hands on Transformers Studio Series 38 Optimus Prime, the one from the Bumblebee film with the more G1 aesthetic. It has been spotted, along with his wavemate Rampage at a Walmart in Florida. The image was posted on Reddit as proof. The toys are priced at $28.96 USD each. They were due out in April, so this is one month early. We wish you US fans all the best in tracking this sought after Optimus Prime toy down.

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby TrypticonCarne » Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:00 pm

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you know this should give an idea on how large devastator is gonna be, the old supreme class' leg is as tall as the new one's foot so I expect devastator to be around titan class If not bigger
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:19 pm

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:50 am

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Jetfire, wow, Jetfire is BAD. I have tried 3 times over the course of 4 hours, and I have not gotten him into jet mode yet. His legs refuse to work, they refuse to tab in straight. I cannot get his legs and arms to tab into jet mode in ANY location, and his front and back parts of his legs will not align either. I have yet to see a good jet mode out of him, and it's so depressing! He just won't cooperate!


I don't get this at all. I've had absolutely no issues with transforming Jetfire at all and have done so several times since I got him at start of year. It's actually a pretty simple transformation too and I didn't use the instructions (never even took them out of box).

I even posted two pics of him in jet mode on the previous page.
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Can you post pics of the parts you're having trouble with? I'm not saying this stuff to appear superior or smug, I'm genuinely trying to help folk enjoy the figure they've purchased that I have no had any trouble with. Kinda like when William-James had issues with Jazz not transforming properly but was cos he had missed the peg inside the roof that plugs into his backside and when done the panels fit just fine.

Edit: took a couple pics of the underside of my Jetfire if it's of any help to you guys. I took it with the axe attached first before realising I should remove it so took another pic without it too. :P
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If you need me to peel back any parts so you can see how the legs are transformed and such just let me know.


I swore off buying new toys for a lil while but that DotM Megatron is still tempting me. I still need Bonecrusher and to find a cheap Brawl someplace too.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:00 am

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:47 am

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Kapow currently have the wave 1 and 2 voyagers at only £16.97 each instead of £29.99. Dangit I just bid on a Brawl on eBay and gotta wait for that to end or get outbid. :P But here's links to the Kapow listings if you're a UK collector looking for these figures at a good price.

SS05 Optimus Prime https://www.kapowtoys.co.uk/transformer ... es-05.html
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SS13 Megatron https://www.kapowtoys.co.uk/transformer ... -6201.html
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Ironhidensh » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:34 am

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote: For some reason, SIEGE is making leaps and bounds with posability, but STUDIO SERIES seems to be getting worse. Why?????



In my opinion? Because Siege is primarily designed as a children's toys first, and Studio Series is primarily designed as a display piece first. I could be way off there, but that is how it feels to me.


I, too, am shocked that you are having trouble with Jetfire. I was able to transform him perfectly without instructions. I'm sorry you are having trouble.

I haven't transformed Megatron yet, to be honest, so I don't know about the issues there, but I would agree with you on the hips.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:42 am

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote: For some reason, SIEGE is making leaps and bounds with posability, but STUDIO SERIES seems to be getting worse. Why?????



In my opinion? Because Siege is primarily designed as a children's toys first, and Studio Series is primarily designed as a display piece first. I could be way off there, but that is how it feels to me.


I, too, am shocked that you are having trouble with Jetfire. I was able to transform him perfectly without instructions. I'm sorry you are having trouble.

I haven't transformed Megatron yet, to be honest, so I don't know about the issues there, but I would agree with you on the hips.

I wouldn't say Studio Series is being designed to be a line of display pieces. I'd actually say that it's a line that's trying to cope with transforming realistic vehicles to robot modes that have some parts of the vehicle, but also lots of parts that disappear or change size, and as a result of that, articulation is taking a step back to allow for transformation to take place. Though, I can't really explain the lack of wrist swivels on some of the figures...
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:50 am

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Sentinel_Primal wrote: Though, I can't really explain the lack of wrist swivels on some of the figures...


Which ones should and could (where transformation allows wrist be thick enough)? Blackout was certainly one but the Shockwave Lab hands on mine really helped with that and added finger articulation so that's good. It's rare on the Deluxes (given the size probably), with the voyagers Optimus (SS05 and SS32), Ironhide and Starscream have it (dunno about Brawl cos I don't have him and Megatron has weird hands in general), I can't remember if Grimlock had it on his one hand cos I sold him in favour of Black Mamba's version but Jetfire has similar wrists to Starscream.

Ironhidensh wrote:I, too, am shocked that you are having trouble with Jetfire. I was able to transform him perfectly without instructions. I'm sorry you are having trouble.


Not directly aimed at me but I thank you for proving I'm not crazy. About this anyways. :P
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:56 am

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Sentinel_Primal wrote: Though, I can't really explain the lack of wrist swivels on some of the figures...


Which ones should and could (where transformation allows wrist be thick enough)? Blackout was certainly one but the Shockwave Lab hands on mine really helped with that and added finger articulation so that's good.

Specifically, Ratchet could have benefitted with having them. And I think the Lockdown and Stinger molds could have been engineered slightly differently to allow for wrist swivels, but I don't they're as important there :lol:
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:00 am

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:Specifically, Ratchet could have benefitted with having them. And I think the Lockdown and Stinger molds could have been engineered slightly differently to allow for wrist swivels, but I don't they're as important there :lol:


Yeah I can agree on Ratchet, holding him in hand now. Not sure about Lockdown and Stinger molds since their hands are so integrated with the car doors (pretty much the whole back of the hand is door) I can't see that being possible. But yeah Ratchet's could have potentially been done.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:10 am

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:Specifically, Ratchet could have benefitted with having them. And I think the Lockdown and Stinger molds could have been engineered slightly differently to allow for wrist swivels, but I don't they're as important there :lol:


Yeah I can agree on Ratchet, holding him in hand now. Not sure about Lockdown and Stinger molds since their hands are so integrated with the car doors (pretty much the whole back of the hand is door) I can't see that being possible. But yeah Ratchet's could have potentially been done.

Personally, I can't really talk about most of the molds as distribution and shelf warming has made it to where the stores in my area just have Dropkick and DotM Ratchet for the deluxes, and RotF Starscream for the voyagers and they haven't restocked the leaders so I haven't been able to grab any of the figures I've been looking at, but wanting to see in hand how they look before buying. On the plus side though, it looks like all the coming figures look great in the renders and at the physically reveals, so I don't have to hunt for them in store when they come out cause I can just find them online :twisted: :lol:
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:16 am

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:and RotF Starscream for the voyagers and they haven't restocked the leaders



I had to get RotF Starscream shipped from the US cos I couldn't find it in the UK, certainly not in actual stores but it turned out to be about £7 cheaper including the shipping to do so anyways cos Amazon US were selling it for 20 dollars so yay for me :D But yeah I've not seen any of the Jetfire, SS32 Prime, DotM Megatron, Sideswipe, Barry and co wave to appear in stores here yet. I've bought the ones I have from that lot online. A ton of Thundercrackers seems to have recently appeared to clog up the shelves at The Entertainer for £19.99. Presumably left-over Toys R Us stock (though the nearest TRU closed over a year ago).
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:22 am

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So here is this morning's attempt at transforming. It's the legs and shoulders that are issues, They will not tab in and I think my ending covers are not aligned properly construction wise. The foot tabs into the rest, but the engine cover itself is off by about half an hour in terms of attempting to tab

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:43 am

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Hm, I'm not sure what's causing the issue. Can you pull it out at 90 degrees and ensure every detail and part is aligned or rotated (particularly the actual engine bits themselves since they need to be rotated into place properly) like in my photos below if it helps at all? Or take similar photos to these so we can have a look to? I know the issue might not even be visible in these but just to be sure?

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inner side of body
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How it should be when wing is pushed back into position
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:53 am

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I had all the parts aligned, they just don't want to stay tabbed in.

But as sad as the alt mode is, this robot mode is the bomb!

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:56 am

Motto: "A cunning smile is more devastating than the fiercest weapon."
Weapon: Anti-Thermal Cannon
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I had all the parts aligned, they just don't want to stay tabbed in.

But as sad as the alt mode is, this robot mode is the bomb!

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Heh, that pic is so very much why I love his robot mode. So much character. :) But yeah I really his jet mode a lot too and I'm really sorry yours doesn't seem to transform correctly. Maybe a QC issue? :/
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:58 am

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Weapon: Star Saber Sword
Oh for sure, if there is something Studio Series has killed at, it's the looks of the robot modes. Grimlock and Lockdown have stood out to me since the beginning for the awesome robot mode detailing, and Megatron and Jetfire continue that trend nicely!
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