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Emerje wrote:Am I the only one that doesn't care which Constructicon did what in what movie and just wants a bunch of cool figures that turn into a big, multi-colored monster?

Emerje

I'm right there with you. Hell, I haven't even seen the movie, so I really don't care who did what, I just love me some combiners and this one looks to be massive, even better.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Hey, anyone who has SS Jetfire in hand -

Is the prime chest piece that comes with Jetfire the same metallic red as on SS-05?

No the lil piece is a bit brighter and slightly more 'pinkish'.

Oh, cool! Thanks!

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Hey, anyone who has SS Jetfire in hand -

Is the prime chest piece that comes with Jetfire the same metallic red as on SS-05?

No the lil piece is a bit brighter and slightly more 'pinkish'.

Oh, cool! Thanks!

Is ok. I tried to take a photo but my camera skills and current lighting here they end up looking very similar in colour in the photo but definitely in person they look different. Why were you wondering?

carytheone wrote:

Emerje wrote:Am I the only one that doesn't care which Constructicon did what in what movie and just wants a bunch of cool figures that turn into a big, multi-colored monster?

Emerje

There's hairs to be split, so you're probably in the minority (as am I). I have no interest in getting any of these toys, but I really wanna see this thing completed. It's gonna be 'UGE! I'm excited for those that are excited.

I'm also happy for those who are enjoying the SS line, but I'm not blown away by it. I've gotten 6 figures so far, and I probably won't get more than another few. I never cared for movie Devastator because he couldn't stand upright. I liked and cheered his combination scene in RoTF but when he couldn't stand up at the end I was bummed. Oh, and how can I forget, Devastator ballz. I guarantee Hasbro won't have the nerve give his SS toy those.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I never cared for movie Devastator because he couldn't stand upright. I liked and cheered his combination scene in RoTF but when he couldn't stand up at the end I was bummed.

Eh, physics. Plus I think hunching over like a gorilla makes him look more brutish, badass and unique.
Plus he's supposed to be 100ft tall if he could stand up, so hunching over and being 45ft tall instead helps get him in shot better with other characters while retaining all that chunk and mass. I always found G1 Devs rather goofy looking anyways (and for something supposed to be such a threat he seemed to always have the dumbest look on his face) and prefer the more beast-like RotF Devs.

As for the wrecking balls, I'm not generally one for crude humour but they had to store somewhere so that's as good a place as any I suppose (rather than adding a bit more weight to the already heavy top). They're just metal balls anyways, he's not a naked organic creature with actual testicles so it really didn't bother me.

Thanks for the news credit as always. I absolutely love the look of this dude, but I'm much more excited for the deluxe Hightower.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source= ... ower_(ROTF)&psig=AOvVaw1OkwCfP_TUk6aQ2m7OOuDc&ust=1547825928311319

That's gonna be awesome.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:As for the wrecking balls, I'm not generally one for crude humour but they had to store somewhere

Except, none of his nine components' altmodes had any wrecking balls. We get a good look at every single vehicle that forms him in the movie before they combine, and all of them are construction vehicles that didn't use, store, or carry wrecking balls. Of all nine components, Hightower was the only one that could have used a wrecking ball (not two, only one), but his crane altmode in the movie was not equipped with a wrecking ball, instead merely equipped with no attachments to its crane arm at all. Bay put the two wrecking on Devastator's underside in that scene just to make that joke because that's the kind of "humor" Bay likes.

Sabrblade wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:As for the wrecking balls, I'm not generally one for crude humour but they had to store somewhere

Except, none of his nine components' altmodes had any wrecking balls. We get a good look at every single vehicle that forms him in the movie before they combine, and all of them are construction vehicles that didn't use, store, or carry wrecking balls. Of all nine components, Hightower was the only one that could have used a wrecking ball (not two, only one), but his crane altmode in the movie was not equipped with a wrecking ball, instead merely equipped with no attachments to its crane arm at all. Bay put the two wrecking on Devastator's underside in that scene just to make that joke because that's the kind of "humor" Bay likes.

And the writers strike more or less allowed him to make that happen, though would have been nice for an executive producer to have stepped in but guess they were all busy

I have never understood the fandom-wide pearl-clutching over Devastator's wrecking balls. Like, I thought it was pretty funny. Heck, even my mother thought it was funny. Granted it wouldn't have been half as funny without John Tuturro's excellent delivery ("I am directly below...enemy scrotum!") but honestly, as crude jokes go it was OK. Heck, even within the same film it sure beats Wheelie humping Mikaela's leg, or Skids and Mudflap in general.

I always treat skids and mudflaps like the guy in Offsprings Pretty Fly for a White Guy video aka white guys trying desperately to be something else, or like Ali G. But I get this may be a culture thing here in the UK.

Speaking of them, surely the clock is ticking on when that pair turn up as deluxes in the Studio Series line, same with Jolt

Black Hat wrote:I have never understood the fandom-wide pearl-clutching over Devastator's wrecking balls. Like, I thought it was pretty funny. Heck, even my mother thought it was funny. Granted it wouldn't have been half as funny without John Tuturro's excellent delivery ("I am directly below...enemy scrotum!") but honestly, as crude jokes go it was OK. Heck, even within the same film it sure beats Wheelie humping Mikaela's leg, or Skids and Mudflap in general.

It's likely because of how much the rest of the film was so much of a stoner film that, by the time the wrecking balls showed up, it was just one more thing added to the pile of dumb that the movie had already built up so much of and people simply lumped it in with everything else to collectively illustrate all of that film's problems at once.

ZeroWolf wrote:I always treat skids and mudflaps like the guy in Offsprings Pretty Fly for a White Guy video aka white guys trying desperately to be something else, or like Ali G. But I get this may be a culture thing here in the UK.

Speaking of them, surely the clock is ticking on when that pair turn up as deluxes in the Studio Series line, same with Jolt

IIRC the intention (on the part of their voice actors FWIW, one of whom is black himself) was to take the mick out of tryhard wannabe "gangstas" regardless of race, but particularly taking aim at "wiggers". How well they succeeded with that is up for debate of course, and the characters were incredibly obnoxious, but I do think the accusations of racism (as opposed to them simply being crap characters) fall a little flat.

A shame really, aside from their heads they were cool designs. If I ever get round to writing a fancomic/fanfic I'll probably recycle them (with new heads and completely overhauled characterization) as "Tunes" and "Beatbox". Perhaps them, Jazz and Blaster could form a Rhythm and Blues band together?

As for SS figures, whilst I don't have Mudflap, the ROTF Deluxe Skids still holds up pretty well, so if we don't get updates I'll be happy with them.

Wouldn't that mean Soundwave leaving the Knights of Unicron band?

Looking at by films and only counting toys that we don't know are coming, but it looks like Dark of the Moon is the least represented in the line

Yeah, I'm waiting for the SS version of Sentinel Prime. Hopefully a leader class that has a better transformation than the one we got.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I never cared for movie Devastator because he couldn't stand upright. I liked and cheered his combination scene in RoTF but when he couldn't stand up at the end I was bummed.

Eh, physics.

Meaning...?

Plus he's supposed to be 100ft tall if he could stand up, so hunching over and being 45ft tall instead helps get him in shot better with other characters while retaining all that chunk and mass.

I'm willing to accept that explanation, even if I wouldn't have minded seeing him in wide shots because of that. I mean, Devy didn't really fight any other character, he just trashed the pyramid and got taken out from far away. Sure, he ate the green Twin and took some blasts in the face, but it wasn't really a fight.

I always found G1 Devs rather goofy looking anyways (and for something supposed to be such a threat he seemed to always have the dumbest look on his face) and prefer the more beast-like RotF Devs.

Not me. If Devastator from the comics (or even the cartoon) made it onto the big screen, it would have been great.

As for the wrecking balls, I'm not generally one for crude humour but they had to store somewhere so that's as good a place as any I suppose (rather than adding a bit more weight to the already heavy top).

How about as weapons? Have them be on a long chain and have Devy swing them at enemies, or even the pyramid he was tearing up. But as it's been pointed out, none of his components had them, so they shouldn't have been there to being with, even if I thought the crane could have had them.

They're just metal balls anyways, he's not a naked organic creature with actual testicles so it really didn't bother me.

But the fact that Simmons qualified them as such in dialogue makes them a sexual object. But I guess that's on Bay and his 14-year-old's maturity level. Instead of letting him finish the film on his own, Paramount should have pushed it back until the end of the strike so actual writers could have done the writing. The wait would have been worth it, because the first film wasn't bad.

Paramount was part of the problem, they might not have had anything to fill that slot and may have been worried that pushing it back may have hit profits. To be fair to them it did make a stupid amount of money...

How big was Sentinel in the movie? Was he bigger or same size as megs. Been a while since I've seen it and can't remember the comparison with prime or megs.

ZeroWolf wrote:How big was Sentinel in the movie? Was he bigger or same size as megs. Been a while since I've seen it and can't remember the comparison with prime or megs.

Plus its not like rewatching it is an option

If we do get a new Sentinel, I'd want him to include a similar feature to the Hound we got in TLK line with the removable helmet. It's a little thing, but I don't remember him being that big so if they do make him a leader, I'd expect that as a feature, just to help justify the parts count

william-james88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:How big was Sentinel in the movie? Was he bigger or same size as megs. Been a while since I've seen it and can't remember the comparison with prime or megs.

Plus its not like rewatching it is an option

It is for me as I don't own it

ZeroWolf wrote:
How big was Sentinel in the movie? Was he bigger or same size as megs. Been a while since I've seen it and can't remember the comparison with prime or megs.

According to the height guides, Sentinel is supposed to be 30 feet tall, so a little taller than Optimus (28) but still shorter than Megatron (35).

In the actual movie though, Sentinel is like just barely shorter than Megatron, almost the same height.



I think Sentinel being 30 feet tall checks out alright since he doesn't look to be that much taller than Optimus, I think it's actually Megatron whose height - at least in ROTF and DOTM - looks closer to 31ish feet on screen.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Hey, anyone who has SS Jetfire in hand -

Is the prime chest piece that comes with Jetfire the same metallic red as on SS-05?

No the lil piece is a bit brighter and slightly more 'pinkish'.

Oh, cool! Thanks!

Is ok. I tried to take a photo but my camera skills and current lighting here they end up looking very similar in colour in the photo but definitely in person they look different. Why were you wondering?

I'm trying to think out my game plan for SS Optimus. I know I'll be getting the DOTM Leader since that's my favorite look for him, but I wasn't sure about the metallic red. I was thinking that if I really didn't like it I could get SS-32 and give him the abs and flight tech/trailer from DOTM Prime. But if the shade of red is lighter than SS-05, it should be ok. Super excited to see how SS DOTM Prime looks and what he comes with!

Rodimus Prime wrote:I never cared for movie Devastator because he couldn't stand upright. I liked and cheered his combination scene in RoTF but when he couldn't stand up at the end I was bummed. Oh, and how can I forget, Devastator ballz. I guarantee Hasbro won't have the nerve give his SS toy those.

You missed a golden opportunity there.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I never cared for movie Devastator because he couldn't stand upright. I liked and cheered his combination scene in RoTF but when he couldn't stand up at the end I was bummed. Oh, and how can I forget, Devastator ballz. I guarantee Hasbro won't have the nerve give his SS toy those.

You missed a golden opportunity there.

I thought about saying it the other way, but good taste prevailed.

As for the height difference, I think Megatron and Sentinel look close to each other is because in DoTM Megatron hunched over, he rarely stood straight up, except at the end when he attacked Sentinel and then you could see he was taller and bulkier.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I never cared for movie Devastator because he couldn't stand upright. I liked and cheered his combination scene in RoTF but when he couldn't stand up at the end I was bummed.

Eh, physics.

Meaning...?

RotF Devs is extremely top-heavy so he has to walk on all fours. And that makes him move far more beast-like and certainly more threatening looking than the jolly green giant who just stood very still and punched things occasionally.

Rodimus Prime wrote:But the fact that Simmons qualified them as such in dialogue makes them a sexual object.

Nope. Just cos Simmons made reference to them looking like that doesn't make it so. They're just metal spheres. They have no actual biological function whatsoever. Fair enough that they didn't seem to belong to any vehicle shown to merge into Devs (and perhaps they were supposed to but things got a bit cut and messed up). Who cares? It's a harmless joke. Not my thing but I really didn't care.

Sabrblade wrote:It's likely because of how much the rest of the film was so much of a stoner film that, by the time the wrecking balls showed up, it was just one more thing added to the pile of dumb that the movie had already built up so much of and people simply lumped it in with everything else to collectively illustrate all of that film's problems at once.

Stoner film? Odd. Never been stoned in my whole life (Barely ever drank and only ever had one puff of a cigarette just to be sure I don't care for it. I did have a friend who had a similar situation to Judy did in the early part of the film so yes I know pot brownies are a thing and no I've never had them. That I'm aware of) but I actually quite enjoy the film. Not everything in it but the vast majority of the runtime goes along very nicely for me and has some really great scenes (the forest battle being the obvious one). And hey 'pile of dumb'? Sounds quite authentic to the G1 cartoon then. That show was one dumb thing after another but a lot of G1 fans don't seem to accept that, treating it like it's some kind of untouchable masterpiece rather than the sloppily written, poorly animated piece of crud almost totally devoid of any logic or sense, which it has always been (partly due to being based to sell a robot toyline made up of previous robot toylines that weren't designed to go together anyways). Jeez, even as a young kid in the 80s I couldn't bloody stand it. I loved the toys (though that decreased with each year as they dropped the attempts to have realistic alt-modes and actually detailed robot modes, thank god for bayverse bringing that back in full force which continues to this day after minor brief revivals of the concept with some of RiD2001).

ZeroWolf wrote:I always treat skids and mudflaps like the guy in Offsprings Pretty Fly for a White Guy video aka white guys trying desperately to be something else, or like Ali G. But I get this may be a culture thing here in the UK.

That's what I always assumed they were supposed to be. There are no black, white, chinese, french etc Transformers. They come to earth and some take on characteristics of whatever earth culture they were exposed to (given that it was mentioned very early on they learn stuff from the internet and god knows you're gonna run into some dumb crap on there soon enough) much like how they scan for alt-modes to blend in. And yeah, Skids and Mudflap were being like the desperate white guys trying to be all cool and with all 'gangsta' stuff as ZeroWolf mentioned. There's tons more actual racist stuff (actual brutal stuff that impacts people's lives in a severe way) going on in the world to get all riled up about rather than a couple goofy characters being goofy. It clearly didn't work for a lot of people so probably going back shouldn't have been done that way but eh that's what we got. I still found them kinda likable against Devs though.

Anyways Studio... I still haven't been able to find Sideswipe and Barricade for sale here in UK at moment like I did with Jetfire and Optimus. The one retailer that did have them that I found, I was literally hours late and they apparently sold out and just have the Crank, Clunk, Bones (the latter of which I'd like but I've spent too much lately and my last bit of money for now is reserved for Bad Cop Barry and the Silver Skater especially since I no longer have any of their previous toys having sold them in my previous figure culls to help pay for more Studio figures.

You're entitled to your opinion as I am to mine, so we'll just disagree on Devastator.