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Of course Scavenger is mistransformed in those stock images. The big wheels are supported by both struts each in the test shot and previous stock image:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Of course Scavenger is mistransformed in those stock images. The big wheels are supported by both struts each in the test shot and previous stock image:

If you look at how he is packaged, I can totally see the photographer taking one out of the box, turning the upper wheel 90 degrees and snapping away for bot mode.

Ultra Markus wrote:scavenger should have came with a miniature optimus prime figure
https://youtu.be/Pilx4NsU7D4

Except that that's Demolishor, not Scavenger.

It's Demolishor who should come with a mini-Optimus.

(Dem is White, Scav is Red)

Sabrblade wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:scavenger should have came with a miniature optimus prime figure
https://youtu.be/Pilx4NsU7D4

Except that that's Demolishor, not Scavenger.

It's Demolishor who should come with a mini-Optimus.

(Dem is White, Scav is Red)

then why does the box say scavenger

Ultra Markus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:scavenger should have came with a miniature optimus prime figure
https://youtu.be/Pilx4NsU7D4

Except that that's Demolishor, not Scavenger.

It's Demolishor who should come with a mini-Optimus.

(Dem is White, Scav is Red)

then why does the box say scavenger

Because it was Scavenger who formed Devastator's torso in the movie. Demolishor was the white one who got killed in Shanghai near the beginning of the movie.

This is Scavenger (in the middle):



And this is Demolishor:

Sabrblade wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:scavenger should have came with a miniature optimus prime figure
https://youtu.be/Pilx4NsU7D4

Except that that's Demolishor, not Scavenger.

It's Demolishor who should come with a mini-Optimus.

(Dem is White, Scav is Red)

then why does the box say scavenger

Because it was Scavenger who formed Devastator's torso in the movie. Demolishor was the white one who got killed in Shanghai near the beginning of the movie.

This is Scavenger (in the middle):



And this is Demolishor:

It doesn't help that the original RotF red toy was called Demolishor, who was later redecoed in white. Outside of Legends Class, Scavenger never had a transforming figure... officially that is.

I scored KSI Boss and....honestly, I want to love him because the paint is so engrossing but I don't think I love him.

I feel like I've been spoiled by the new SS and the new Siege products because this is just a little touch of the old with KSI, or Kissy as he's unfortunately intuitively nicknamed. Like this engineering to me feels like the step from where Transformers were before last year to where they are now. He's almost to where the current SS series and Siege figures are buuuuut...just a hair off. Not quite there. It makes me appreciate where the toys are now that much more.

Honestly, and I feel like I can be such a stickler...but it's the lack of ankle tilts that really gets me. It takes away so much dynamic posing. And with that paint that pops and the guns every where you want to get a cool saddle stance going on and a waist tilt but you don't get that here.

It's just a little thing but I've always been a stickler for little details like that. This is one that no pun intended gives the whole toy a poor foot to stand on for me.

Otherwise his guns are awesome and the jet mode looks pretty good. I love the paint and the look I mean he does look like he could be a knight-version-Gundam-type-robot. He just looks like a cool all around emotionless robot that could level the population of an average sized world.

His crotch won't stay pegged together (that's what someone said) which is super frustrating because it doesn't take much handling for his crotch to fall apart (also, said, person, order, not that in).

But I've again got to give it positive points for the transformation design because you just don't see that flipping of limbs in quite that way every day. It's definitely unique and sweet Christmas is he ever heavily armed. The cycloptic eye looks great and I love the versatility with the TR gimmick. The cockpit even fits a Titanmaster that's awesome.

All in all though, I think it's a solid $30 I would have rather saved for Thundercracker. Two out of five gravestars. This one might need to go back and find a better forever home than he'll find here.

The lack of ankle rockers on that mold is a pity. I have to say that aside from that I love my Thundercracker, enough that if they did the mold as Skywarp I'd buy it (though I'd rather Skywarp was a different mold to satisfy my "all the Seekers are different" idea).

Got the SS Leader Prime this past week, and I love it. There's some obvious complaints, the lack of paint on the weapons and the hollow parts on the wings are kind of annoying, but it's far and away the best version of the SS Voyager Prime mold. The orange fade at the front of the truck really makes it pop, the silver "abs" really compliment the robot mode well, and even with the lack of paint, having so many accessories makes for all sorts of fun poses and playability.

Currently have him next to my DOTM voyager Megatron and Shockwave, and they all look great together, which is a nice bonus, I never got any of the DOTM versions of Optimus from that line because I thought they all looked like garbage and/or didn't scale right with the other figures. May have to find a DOTM voyager Sentinel Prime to go with them all and recreate that final battle.

I ordered SS Shatter and the new car form of Dropkick off Amazon, hopefully I get one of the better versions of Shatter. Dropkick looks like a massive improvement in robot mode, although I'll probably still keep the first version around because I love the way the helicopter mode looks.

My feelings exactly when I got Studio series Thundercracker...same mold and everything. Good toy, awesome even...but not as awesome as proper Studio series toys. Still, KSI would make a good Nitro Zeus!

Stargrave wrote:I scored KSI Boss and....honestly, I want to love him because the paint is so engrossing but I don't think I love him.

I feel like I've been spoiled by the new SS and the new Siege products because this is just a little touch of the old with KSI, or Kissy as he's unfortunately intuitively nicknamed. Like this engineering to me feels like the step from where Transformers were before last year to where they are now. He's almost to where the current SS series and Siege figures are buuuuut...just a hair off. Not quite there. It makes me appreciate where the toys are now that much more.

Honestly, and I feel like I can be such a stickler...but it's the lack of ankle tilts that really gets me. It takes away so much dynamic posing. And with that paint that pops and the guns every where you want to get a cool saddle stance going on and a waist tilt but you don't get that here.

It's just a little thing but I've always been a stickler for little details like that. This is one that no pun intended gives the whole toy a poor foot to stand on for me.

Otherwise his guns are awesome and the jet mode looks pretty good. I love the paint and the look I mean he does look like he could be a knight-version-Gundam-type-robot. He just looks like a cool all around emotionless robot that could level the population of an average sized world.

His crotch won't stay pegged together (that's what someone said) which is super frustrating because it doesn't take much handling for his crotch to fall apart (also, said, person, order, not that in).

But I've again got to give it positive points for the transformation design because you just don't see that flipping of limbs in quite that way every day. It's definitely unique and sweet Christmas is he ever heavily armed. The cycloptic eye looks great and I love the versatility with the TR gimmick. The cockpit even fits a Titanmaster that's awesome.

All in all though, I think it's a solid $30 I would have rather saved for Thundercracker. Two out of five gravestars. This one might need to go back and find a better forever home than he'll find here.

I’m such a dork I should have specified Siege Thundercracker he’s who I’ve been kind of pining for I do like this mold! So many weapons and the TR gimmick but it’s just 90% there. You know if he’d been a TR figure he would have been like thee best TR figure.

PetesSuperRobots wrote:My feelings exactly when I got Studio series Thundercracker...same mold and everything. Good toy, awesome even...but not as awesome as proper Studio series toys. Still, KSI would make a good Nitro Zeus!

Technically, it was Nitro Zeus first, although the head doesn't really match him or KSI Boss.

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Nitro_Zeus#Toys

Anyone know if any 3rd party ever made a better head for him or KSI Boss that better matches their on-screen appearances? Seems like it would be a no-brainer there, but I've never seen anything.

Spider5800 wrote:Anyone know if any 3rd party ever made a better head for him or KSI Boss that better matches their on-screen appearances? Seems like it would be a no-brainer there, but I've never seen anything.

Well there is this.

https://www.shapeways.com/product/2C2M7 ... arketplace

But I don’t know about anything else.

Spider5800 wrote:
Anyone know if any 3rd party ever made a better head for him or KSI Boss that better matches their on-screen appearances? Seems like it would be a no-brainer there, but I've never seen anything.

There's a Titan master face for him on Shapeways, but that's about it AFAIK.
https://www.shapeways.com/product/2C2M7 ... arketplace

On the topic of SS Scavenger, I think the DOTM Cyberverse Prime would scale really good with it.

I actually only got him so my Legends headmaster Starscream could have a body instead of possessing Octane all the time... though now I use the figure as Thunder Zeus, Decepticon seeker. He's kind of a brute, a regular soldier and a background character in my Fanfiction, but the design is imposing and the toy good enough that I think he does make an excellent generic Decepticon antagonist for the Autobots to have trouble with...

Stargrave wrote:I’m such a dork I should have specified Siege Thundercracker he’s who I’ve been kind of pining for I do like this mold! So many weapons and the TR gimmick but it’s just 90% there. You know if he’d been a TR figure he would have been like thee best TR figure.

Freaking railgun-looking bowcaster right arm canon and afterburner gattling killgun left arm canon. Then, you know, just gattling guns on his shoulders and rockets on his other shoulders. I feel like if you look at this guy you just instantly killdead boom, game over. I mean I can't think of many Decepticons outside of Overlord who are just stacked for slaughter like this guy.

Picked up car Shatter and car Dropkick.

Shatter shattered as expected, but Dropkick dropkicked-ass! Man what a great mold, I love how the weapon attaches in bot mold, and what a clever transformation with the wheels. Just an outstanding overall mold.

I did find something to like about Shatter. Actually a few things, the car mode is sweet. IF it would hold together, the transformation would be pretty slick here as well, but instead it becomes a frustrating game of finding where the arms or the fenders popped off to. Hopefully some floor polish might be able to help.

But I did find my favorite thing about the mold. I'll call her Motorhead.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Hopefully some floor polish might be able to help.

I tried to do that with my brother’s Shatter, it helped with her vehicle kibble, but for me it somehow made the shoulders even more prone to popping off.

Stargrave wrote:And for a time you’re 8 again, and reminded why Transformers is the best.

Good news, I think I’m like way older than you are and it’s still the same feeling after all these years.

No no, 8 years ago, not when I was 8! i was 16 when DotM came out

Spider5800 wrote:Got the SS Leader Prime this past week, and I love it. There's some obvious complaints, the lack of paint on the weapons and the hollow parts on the wings are kind of annoying, but it's far and away the best version of the SS Voyager Prime mold. The orange fade at the front of the truck really makes it pop, the silver "abs" really compliment the robot mode well, and even with the lack of paint, having so many accessories makes for all sorts of fun poses and playability.

Currently have him next to my DOTM voyager Megatron and Shockwave, and they all look great together, which is a nice bonus, I never got any of the DOTM versions of Optimus from that line because I thought they all looked like garbage and/or didn't scale right with the other figures. May have to find a DOTM voyager Sentinel Prime to go with them all and recreate that final battle.

I ordered SS Shatter and the new car form of Dropkick off Amazon, hopefully I get one of the better versions of Shatter. Dropkick looks like a massive improvement in robot mode, although I'll probably still keep the first version around because I love the way the helicopter mode looks.

You and I have fairly similar opinions on that Prime. Yeah he has issues but he is an incredibly cool concept and mostly pulls it off great!

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Stargrave wrote:And for a time you’re 8 again, and reminded why Transformers is the best.

Good news, I think I’m like way older than you are and it’s still the same feeling after all these years.

No no, 8 years ago, not when I was 8! i was 16 when DotM came out

Spider5800 wrote:Got the SS Leader Prime this past week, and I love it. There's some obvious complaints, the lack of paint on the weapons and the hollow parts on the wings are kind of annoying, but it's far and away the best version of the SS Voyager Prime mold. The orange fade at the front of the truck really makes it pop, the silver "abs" really compliment the robot mode well, and even with the lack of paint, having so many accessories makes for all sorts of fun poses and playability.

Currently have him next to my DOTM voyager Megatron and Shockwave, and they all look great together, which is a nice bonus, I never got any of the DOTM versions of Optimus from that line because I thought they all looked like garbage and/or didn't scale right with the other figures. May have to find a DOTM voyager Sentinel Prime to go with them all and recreate that final battle.

I ordered SS Shatter and the new car form of Dropkick off Amazon, hopefully I get one of the better versions of Shatter. Dropkick looks like a massive improvement in robot mode, although I'll probably still keep the first version around because I love the way the helicopter mode looks.

You and I have fairly similar opinions on that Prime. Yeah he has issues but he is an incredibly cool concept and mostly pulls it off great!

Dude I'm such a dork my bad Sorry about that!

Hey guys does the leader class Prime combine with Jetfire? I know one Prime did not, was then modified, but I've gotten them all kind of mixed up. Because if leader Prime has the trailer and also combines with Jetfire I'd imagine that's 110% the one I'd get if I were to only get one.

Stargrave wrote:Hey guys does the leader class Prime combine with Jetfire? I know one Prime did not, was then modified, but I've gotten them all kind of mixed up. Because if leader Prime has the trailer and also combines with Jetfire I'd imagine that's 110% the one I'd get if I were to only get one.

Yes it does. Though, the connection for the ab piece from Jetfire and my copy of Leader Prime is scarily tight. No one else seems to have this issue though, so it should be fine

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Stargrave wrote:Hey guys does the leader class Prime combine with Jetfire? I know one Prime did not, was then modified, but I've gotten them all kind of mixed up. Because if leader Prime has the trailer and also combines with Jetfire I'd imagine that's 110% the one I'd get if I were to only get one.

Yes it does. Though, the connection for the ab piece from Jetfire and my copy of Leader Prime is scarily tight. No one else seems to have this issue though, so it should be fine

Here's a rundown if it helps:

#05: original Voyager release
#32: retooled from #05 to combine with Jetfire, lighter colors
#38: Bumblebee version
#44: redeco of #32, comes with trailer. Can combine with Jetfire.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Stargrave wrote:Hey guys does the leader class Prime combine with Jetfire? I know one Prime did not, was then modified, but I've gotten them all kind of mixed up. Because if leader Prime has the trailer and also combines with Jetfire I'd imagine that's 110% the one I'd get if I were to only get one.

Yes it does. Though, the connection for the ab piece from Jetfire and my copy of Leader Prime is scarily tight. No one else seems to have this issue though, so it should be fine

Here's a rundown if it helps:

#05: original Voyager release
#32: retooled from #05 to combine with Jetfire, lighter colors
#38: Bumblebee version
#44: redeco of #32, comes with trailer. Can combine with Jetfire.

#44 definitely ended up being the best. That paint job on the main robot is so good

Took Dropkick to work Friday, and he went through a parade with me on Saturday. We placed 4th! 3rd Year in a row!

Dropkick is still really good. 2nd best con and 2nd best carformer of the entire line

Guess I'll have to wait until December to experience Dropkick