Seibertron.com Energon Pub Forums

[william-james88]

Wonder how the Hasbro versions will be priced...

The lower price point is a little concerning, because it would imply they cheaped out somewhere to lower it. Smaller molds, less paint apps, less complex, etc. The Brawl and Megatron we've seen so far didn't seem very simplistic, so I'm going to assume the sizes shrunk AGAIN, but maybe they'll surprise me.

I looked more into it and I think we are in the clear for it being the normal sizes we are used to. My comparison to previous listings was to the MB line and that line has a waaaay higher SRP. Which is odd since I bought Voyager Megs and Soundwave from the MB line for the same price as Voyager LG Lio Convoy. But the voyagers are priced the same as the voyagers in Takara's TLK line and the leaders are priced the same as the SRP for the standard TLK leaders in Japan (like Dragonstorm) so its basically the same quality as TLK that we can expect.

I changed my article accordingly.

[Spider5800]

Wonder how the Hasbro versions will be priced...

The lower price point is a little concerning, because it would imply they cheaped out somewhere to lower it. Smaller molds, less paint apps, less complex, etc. The Brawl and Megatron we've seen so far didn't seem very simplistic, so I'm going to assume the sizes shrunk AGAIN, but maybe they'll surprise me.

I looked more into it and I think we are in the clear for it being the normal sizes we are used to. My comparison to previous listings was to the MB line and that line has a waaaay higher SRP. Which is odd since I bought Voyager Megs and Soundwave from the MB line for the same price as Voyager LG Lio Convoy. But the voyagers are priced the same as the voyagers in Takara's TLK line and the leaders are priced the same as the SRP for the standard TLK leaders in Japan (like Dragonstorm) so its basically the same quality as TLK that we can expect.

I changed my article accordingly.

Sweet, thanks for the update! A leader Grimlock and Blackout of the same quality as leader Megs from the TLK line would be pretty awesome. Hopefully they don't have the same QA issues the TLK line had, though (eye's Dragonstorm's heads).

[Deathsanras]

Wonder how the Hasbro versions will be priced...

The lower price point is a little concerning, because it would imply they cheaped out somewhere to lower it. Smaller molds, less paint apps, less complex, etc. The Brawl and Megatron we've seen so far didn't seem very simplistic, so I'm going to assume the sizes shrunk AGAIN, but maybe they'll surprise me.

IF Hasbro release them. It’s not like they always follow what Takara does and vise versa

We already know Hasbro is releasing them, from other leaks and such.

And and we were suppose to get two more box sets from titans return and the final wave of animated was always gonna find release or the final line of dark of the moon would get put out.

I’ll wait and see. Things change and leaks aren’t always true.

Remember the leak about the beast wars box sets someone who claimed to work at amazon and “saw everything” like Optimus form apeface and Megatron from snapdragon only for POTP to reveal none of that was true because the headmaster gimmick has been replaced by combiners again. God that was an amazing amount of trolling.

Ok but... we've literally seen images of the packaging style for the Hasbro side of this line. That's how we know, at least for the Hasbro releases, that they'll come with display bases and backgrounds. This isn't some baseless rumor.

[Jeddostotle7]

Wonder how the Hasbro versions will be priced...

The lower price point is a little concerning, because it would imply they cheaped out somewhere to lower it. Smaller molds, less paint apps, less complex, etc. The Brawl and Megatron we've seen so far didn't seem very simplistic, so I'm going to assume the sizes shrunk AGAIN, but maybe they'll surprise me.

IF Hasbro release them. It’s not like they always follow what Takara does and vise versa

We already know Hasbro is releasing them, from other leaks and such.

And and we were suppose to get two more box sets from titans return and the final wave of animated was always gonna find release or the final line of dark of the moon would get put out.

I’ll wait and see. Things change and leaks aren’t always true.

Remember the leak about the beast wars box sets someone who claimed to work at amazon and “saw everything” like Optimus form apeface and Megatron from snapdragon only for POTP to reveal none of that was true because the headmaster gimmick has been replaced by combiners again. God that was an amazing amount of trolling.

Ok but... we've literally seen images of the packaging style for the Hasbro side of this line. That's how we know, at least for the Hasbro releases, that they'll come with display bases and backgrounds. This isn't some baseless rumor.

Okay, but those examples you're talking about are single waves or box sets. I'm talking about an entire line. Even if Hasbro for whatever reason doesn't end up releasing this line, we still know they're planning to for certain, which contradicts your original point, which was that you didn't think they were even planning to.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

As it currently stands, we have all the reasons to believe Hasbro is planning on releasing this line in some shape or form. The examples given to the contrary do not detract from that, as the initial thoughts and hopes concerning them were similar to the ones we have for this line. We only knew Hasbro changed plans when they were either not released (Animated and Movie Trilogy), or not as originally thought (The Titans Return boxsets).

Just be patient and wait for further details before drawing conclusions

[william-james88]

Hasbro has been known not to release one or two toys here and there, but not a whole line, and one that they financed and designed. I am 100% sure we will see more of these toys soon, hence why I wrote my article as a reference while we wait for better pics.

I will say this though, I do not expect any of these to be "mini MPs", as i have heard thrown around on the web by hopeful fans. These will be the same quality as the TLK toys. And that leader Blackout looked to be on the simpler side on the original images we got. It will be a fun scale, but I am not expecting anything mindblowing. It really will be like the leaders we got in AOE and TLK.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I'm hopeful for a good deluxe Jazz and leader Blackout

(had to post, wasn't following the thread)

[Emerje]

I feel like a lot of these are going to be them making the figures they wanted to make the first time around, but not having time thanks to the slimmer margin between design phase and release compared to the regular main line stuff. Plus modern engineering on some of the older guys like Starscream and Brawl. Blackout I still remain skeptical of with what looks to be thick arms and square feet.

Emerje

[Jelze Bunnycat]

New updated thread title, I think a recap is in order. The info here is mostly from the TakaraTomy listings, supplemented with info from the PotP leaks. The numbering comes from the Japanese listings, but they should reflect the numbering scheme found on the recent Hasbro Voyager Brawl and Megatron leaks. Like all Movie lines, Japan and the US should follow roughly the same release order. Finally, these are mere educated guesses, as such they're not set in stone until info comes from Hasbro or TakaraTomy direct.

Deluxe Class Wave 1
01 Bumblebee (TF6)
02 Stinger (TF4)
03 Crowbar (TF3)
04 Ratchet (TF1)

Voyager Class Wave 1
05 Optimus Prime (TF2)
06 Starscream (TF1)

Leader Class Wave 1
07 Grimlock (TF4)
08 Blackout (TF1)

Voyager Class Wave 2
12 Brawl (TF1)
13 Megatron (TF2)

[Quantum Surge]

You know fellas, it always felt weird for me that Movie Prime's first design is usually referred to as TF1 or TF2 when it remains unchanged until DOTM. That's probably just me, though.

[Va'al]

We have another couple of images courtesy of regular Weibo source user tf-factory /
淘宝店变形金刚改造工厂, featuring the same two characters we first saw when the new Transformers movie-verse toyline was first teased: Brawl and Megatron, who appear to respectively occupy the numbers 12 and 13. While we have yet to receive proper confirmation that these are indeed all part of the Studio Series line, we do have crosspromotion for an Optimus Prime (05) and a Starscream (06) in the same line too, all of which will also include a cardboard backdrop (probably the box itself, much like the case for the Transformers Prime First Edition figures and their little cardboard stand) with the words 'Studio Series' printed on it. Check out the grainy images of the two Decepticons below, and join the discussion in the Energon Pub!

[Quantum Surge]

Man, I just got Battle Blades Prime, and am I really going to have to buy this new mold? Of course I am!

[Decepticon Stryker]

These look like statues... Though Megatron's feet look like they can fold into treads so I might be wrong...

[Whifflefire]

These look like statues... Though Megatron's feet look like they can fold into treads so I might be wrong...

Didn't the initial report of these figures show Brawl's alt-mode?

[Emerje]

That doesn't appear to be the previous Voyager Battle Blades Optimus Prime. The tiny blurry image makes the chest look weird, but the seemingly more compact back kibble is interesting and the tire is now behind his leg instead of on the side of his hip which isn't very accurate. It could be a good figure, but I can't see it being better than the BB version.

Well the numbering is a little clear now.

Wave 1
Deluxe 01(?) Bumblebee (TF6Stryker2), 02(?) Stinger, 03(?) Ratchet, 04(?) Crowbar
Voyager 05 Optimus Prime, 06 Starscream
Leader 07(?) Grimlock

But then wave 2 gets confusing because in order to get to 12 and 13 they'd have to re-number Bee and Stinger in their re-release which is a very strange way of doing things. Bee has the same product ID of E0739 so it seems like it'll be an identical figure, as opposed to Starscream who's two figures start with E0 and E1 from what can be seen in the old leak to indicate the TF1 and TF2 versions. Maybe those two figures will be replaced in the final lineup with two other figures, they're the only ones being released twice in the series that we know of with no changes.

Emerje

[Jelze Bunnycat]

That doesn't appear to be the previous Voyager Battle Blades Optimus Prime. The tiny blurry image makes the chest look weird, but the seemingly more compact back kibble is interesting and the tire is now behind his leg instead of on the side of his hip which isn't very accurate. It could be a good figure, but I can't see it being better than the BB version.

Well the numbering is a little clear now.

Wave 1
Deluxe 01(?) Bumblebee (TF6Stryker2), 02(?) Stinger, 03(?) Ratchet, 04(?) Crowbar
Voyager 05 Optimus Prime, 06 Starscream
Leader 07(?) Grimlock

But then wave 2 gets confusing because in order to get to 12 and 13 they'd have to re-number Bee and Stinger in their re-release which is a very strange way of doing things. Bee has the same product ID of E0739 so it seems like it'll be an identical figure, as opposed to Starscream who's two figures start with E0 and E1 from what can be seen in the old leak to indicate the TF1 and TF2 versions. Maybe those two figures will be replaced in the final lineup with two other figures, they're the only ones being released twice in the series that we know of with no changes.

Emerje

And number 08 is Blackout.

Numbers 09, 10 and 11 are unaccounted for, but two of them will be taken up by the Wave 2 Deluxes Jazz and Lockdown. The final one is most likely the sole Wave 2 Leader, or the Wave 3 Voyager Ironhide that's released out of order.

[Emerje]

That doesn't appear to be the previous Voyager Battle Blades Optimus Prime. The tiny blurry image makes the chest look weird, but the seemingly more compact back kibble is interesting and the tire is now behind his leg instead of on the side of his hip which isn't very accurate. It could be a good figure, but I can't see it being better than the BB version.

Well the numbering is a little clear now.

Wave 1
Deluxe 01(?) Bumblebee (TF6Stryker2), 02(?) Stinger, 03(?) Ratchet, 04(?) Crowbar
Voyager 05 Optimus Prime, 06 Starscream
Leader 07(?) Grimlock

But then wave 2 gets confusing because in order to get to 12 and 13 they'd have to re-number Bee and Stinger in their re-release which is a very strange way of doing things. Bee has the same product ID of E0739 so it seems like it'll be an identical figure, as opposed to Starscream who's two figures start with E0 and E1 from what can be seen in the old leak to indicate the TF1 and TF2 versions. Maybe those two figures will be replaced in the final lineup with two other figures, they're the only ones being released twice in the series that we know of with no changes.

Emerje

Numbers 09, 10 and 11 are unaccounted for, but two of them will be taken up by the Wave 2 Deluxes Jazz and Lockdown. The final one is most likely sole the Wave 2 Leader, or a Wave 3 Voyager that's released out of order.

And 08? Blackout will likely be 14, the same line separating him and Grimlock in the leaked image is the one used to separate waves in the other images. I think the wave numbers were probably cut off from the top of the image. It would be weird if wave 3 Ironhide and wave 4 TF2 Starscream were 10 and 11.

Emerje

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Again, 08 is Blackout.

Releasing items out of sequence is nothing new. The T30 line had that with Crosscut 016, with Tankor 015 and Rattrap 017 released a wave prior.

[CobraKai]

I’m excited to see more of RotF Megatron. I feel like, with today’s engineering, they can give him a mold that would do him justice, like his Voyager Last Knight. Prime is definitely new, but still seems to be the OG style of the first three movies. It would be cool if they did DotM Prime.

[Emerje]

Again, 08 is Blackout.

Releasing items out of sequence is nothing new. The T30 line had that with Crosscut 016, with Tankor 015 and Rattrap 017 released a wave prior.

I guess that might be the case then if Hasbro and Takara Tomy are sharing packaging. Though I'm not entirely convinced they'll be doing the wave 2 Deluxe after having just done Jazz and Lockdown in the MB line in February. That might mean renumbering the line in Japan after Grimlock.

Emerje

[dragons]

Man, I just got Battle Blades Prime, and am I really going to have to buy this new mold? Of course I am!

Figure looks ok pass judgment on figure when we get clear pictures of figure

[Prime Target]

C'mon Hasbro where's Primes Face takers That megs looks good but they'll have to do a lot more for Starscream if they want to make him better than the DOTM deluxe and the ROTF Voyager and they'll also need to Skywarp and Thundercracker him.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

C'mon Hasbro where's Primes Face takers That megs looks good but they'll have to do a lot more for Starscream if they want to make him better than the DOTM deluxe and the ROTF Voyager and they'll also need to Skywarp and Thundercracker him.

The packaging says "Build the cast", so I don't think we'll be getting characters or redecos that weren't in the movie, including Thundercracker and Skywarp. In fact, the only leaked redeco is Starscream with the RotF Cyberglyphs

[Carnivius_Prime]

I need more! Better pics. I'm so damn genuinely excited about this line. :O

[william-james88]

I guess that might be the case then if Hasbro and Takara Tomy are sharing packaging. Though I'm not entirely convinced they'll be doing the wave 2 Deluxe after having just done Jazz and Lockdown in the MB line in February. That might mean renumbering the line in Japan after Grimlock.

Emerje

I think they will share packaging since the prices are identical to the prices we saw for the TLK toys which shared pakaging, much cheaper than their own MB line. Its also why I dont think Takara cares. They revealed a new MB TLK Megatron a little while after releasing the Leader Megatron from their TLK line. Same with Bumblebee and Hound. So I dont think that will detract them from doing it again with other toys like Jazz and Lockdown.