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[D-Maximal_Primal]

I hope Barricade will be in stores here soon. I'm really looking forward to him and he is the one figure from wave 1 I want

[Ravage XK]

Are deluxe class figures worth £22.49? These seem to have shot up in price.

[Carnivius_Prime]

Still bit cheaper than what The Entertainer stores have been selling Titans Return Deluxes at (£22.99) I even questioned them on that and they tried to tell me that if I've found them cheaper else where it's just been a reduced sale promotion in those other places. Bulllllllllll...
ANyways I'm heading to Cambridge next Monday and hoping they'll have in the new toys and mainly Voyager Prime.

[william-james88]

I hope Barricade will be in stores here soon. I'm really looking forward to him and he is the one figure from wave 1 I want

Oh man, if Voyager Megs dissapointed you, I have no clue how this guy wont

[Evil Eye]

£22.49?!?!?!? That's as much as a Generations Voyager used to cost! That's just shameful.

[william-james88]

£22.49?!?!?!? That's as much as a Generations Voyager used to cost! That's just shameful.

It happened in canada too, our deluxes just jumped to the voyager price point with this line. Its nuts.

[Evil Eye]

£22.49?!?!?!? That's as much as a Generations Voyager used to cost! That's just shameful.

It happened in canada too, our deluxes just jumped to the voyager price point with this line. Its nuts.

Oh ye gods. This is getting silly. Like, if they were charging that much but giving us RTS/HFTD level engineering then yeah, I could stomach it. I don't mind paying for quality, hence why I buy 3P stuff. But the fact we're getting "meh" at best figures for nearly double the price is disgraceful. 7 years ago and that Barricade's roof would have folded up practically out of sight, AND he'd cost half the price.

I get that production costs have risen, I really do. But price should reflect quality. If they're going to charge such an extortionate amount of money then they should pass that to the consumer with better engineering, paint and QC. They're one of the biggest toy companies in the world, I'm sure it wouldn't put them out of business to give us slightly less awful backpacks.

[Cobotron]

You guys think these price jumps are going to apply to all lines, or is just because of the fancy packaging?

[Bumblebee21]

You guys think these price jumps are going to apply to all lines, or is just because of the fancy packaging?

that and theres a bit more paint added.

I hope Barricade will be in stores here soon. I'm really looking forward to him and he is the one figure from wave 1 I want

what about voyager prime and berserker.

he is a really good figure

[william-james88]

Like, if they were charging that much but giving us RTS/HFTD level engineering then yeah, I could stomach it.

Voyager Optimus has ROTF level of engineering and a decent amount of paint (just in the wrong places).

I don't mind paying for quality, hence why I buy 3P stuff.

I dont think 3p is a fair comparison when talking about what you get for the price. 3p's higher price isnt dependent on parts count or enginnering (especially when their workforce is paid less than hasbro's), its due to not using economies of scale. There are garbage 3p figures out there that still cost a bunch, I really wouldnt compare the two here.

You guys think these price jumps are going to apply to all lines, or is just because of the fancy packaging?

Whats weird is that only deluxes have nice new packaging while voyagers were already in a box so the packaging doesnt explain the price hike. The difference is that Hasbro has probably been making less money on generations figures but since they all share a similar price point, they couldnt raise the prices (especially since TRU uses the same code for all deluxes no matter the wave). So this brand new line is a chance to bump up the price point and make up for loss, capitalizing on the popularity of movie lines.

[Evil Eye]

Voyager Optimus has ROTF level of engineering and a decent amount of paint (just in the wrong places).

Oh? That's interesting to know. I look forward to your expanded thoughts on him.

I dont think 3p is a fair comparison when talking about what you get for the price. 3p's higher price isnt dependent on parts count or enginnering (especially when their workforce is paid less than hasbro's), its due to not using economies of scale. There are garbage 3p figures out there that still cost a bunch, I really wouldnt compare the two here.

Yeah, that wasn't the best comparison I've ever made. I wasn't really directly comparing the two FWIW so much as just using them as an example of "I don't dislike expensive figures just because they're expensive". Maybe a better example would be import toys like Figma, Figuarts, Revoltech etc.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I hope Barricade will be in stores here soon. I'm really looking forward to him and he is the one figure from wave 1 I want

what about voyager prime and berserker.

he is a really good figure

I may get those 2 at a later date, but Barricade is the only one I really want. The reviews kinda soured Beserker for me and Prime is one of those things that I don't really need and I believe will be readily available down the line

[william-james88]

Maybe a better example would be import toys like Figma, Figuarts, Revoltech etc.

yeah, I hear you now. Like those people who buy those Soul of Chockogin stuff (sorry for the mispelling).

The reviews kinda soured Beserker for me and Prime is one of those things that I don't really need and I believe will be readily available down the line

I know I sound like I am making myself important, but now you got me curious. Did my review not sour you over Barricade?

[Emerje]

He doesnt have any lightpiping.
And his car mode is also made up. There is no license.

He didn't say Barricade had light piping. But I do think that for the back of his head to be gray they must have intended for the eyes to be light piped at some point, but decided to go with paint instead, probably because they already had clear plastic on the windows. Why the would decide to move the back of the head to the gray plastic instead of the black is anyone's guess.

And BTW, there's a huge difference between a car that obviously couldn't be real and very scifi and able to have a free-form transformation, and a car that looks like it could be real and has to conform to that with its transformation. Of course there's a right way and a wrong way to do the later and it doesn't look like Barricade was done the right way. I sure hope Barricade isn't a repeat of what we saw with Generations in 2012 when the prices went up and the figures became smaller and simpler compared to the two years of Generations prior.

I feel like the only figures I'll be getting this time are the Leader and Voyager Megatrons and Voyager Prime if they make a better painted one somewhere. Oh, and the Prime Abominus repaints, gotta have those.

Emerje

[D-Maximal_Primal]

The reviews kinda soured Beserker for me and Prime is one of those things that I don't really need and I believe will be readily available down the line

I know I sound like I am making myself important, but now you got me curious. Did my review not sour you over Barricade?

The Beserker reviews turned me off because of how fiddly the figure was, and he most likely won't even be a real character anyway. Barricade is one of my favorite movie cons and I have thought the figure looks good. I have heard many more good than bad reviews, so I am not really turned off by the bad review

[Kurona]

The prices are nothing less than disgraceful; it's completely put me off getting anything from this line. I just hope it won't also apply to Power of the Primes and whatever follows RiD...

[Galva Prime]

I see they only forgot the main part of Grimlock's transformation on the instructions…

[william-james88]

The reviews kinda soured Beserker for me and Prime is one of those things that I don't really need and I believe will be readily available down the line

I know I sound like I am making myself important, but now you got me curious. Did my review not sour you over Barricade?

The Beserker reviews turned me off because of how fiddly the figure was, and he most likely won't even be a real character anyway. Barricade is one of my favorite movie cons and I have thought the figure looks good. I have heard many more good than bad reviews, so I am not really turned off by the bad review

I am glad I couldnt bring you down then, stay strong brother (and remember that Sixshot was recieved with great reviews too).

I sure hope Barricade isn't a repeat of what we saw with Generations in 2012 when the prices went up and the figures became smaller and simpler compared to the two years of Generations prior.

That was the FOC stuff right? How they were way simpler than WFC?

For this line, we can already confirm that its very similar with the deluxes. Sure, there are probably some that are complex, like Berserker and maybe the new Bee, but barricade is simple, Steelbane is pretty simple, Sqweeks is small with accessories, and then the rest are all repaints and retools (unless I missed one).

So crosshairs, slash, slug, first BB, strafe and Drift are all retools or repaints being resold 3 years later for 5$ more than their previous release.

So looking at these facts, looks like it is going that route and the price increase is arbitrary to the effort in releasing these toys. but like I said earlier, I think its to make up for the loss of having to stick to a price point for the generations toys while the cost of production increased. So this is a big bang meant to recuperate loss.

I just dont know if this will be to help finance and maintain the lower price point in other lines or if it will be a new price point for transformers classes from here on out in future lines.

[nemesis primus]

There are placeholders for them at Argos at the minute, voyagers only so far as I saw. If you look for Optimus in the search bar or Megatron or Grimlock you'll find all three, instore only. The online search doesn't work for them yet. Optimus' stock number is 673-4349 and due sometime between the 24th and 30th this month.

[Burn]

£22.49?!?!?!? That's as much as a Generations Voyager used to cost! That's just shameful.

It happened in canada too, our deluxes just jumped to the voyager price point with this line. Its nuts.

If the same happens in Australia, I can see a lot of deluxes not selling. It's not like voyagers fly off the shelves here.

[Deadput]

The Beserker reviews turned me off because of how fiddly the figure was, and he most likely won't even be a real character anyway. Barricade is one of my favorite movie cons and I have thought the figure looks good. I have heard many more good than bad reviews, so I am not really turned off by the bad review

It is possible however his alt form was spotted on set briefly so he might just be either a hi and bye dude or he spends most of his time in robot form.



I had to grab this image from my hard drive since I can't find it on the web but I do know the set pictures from that place were not uploaded as news on other sites like this and Tfw2005 so it's likely the original source got deleted and therefore the original pics are lost.

I can say that this is new stuff from TLK for example I think that's Barricade's hood in the bottom of the pic.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Speaking of Beserker, is his toy licensed? Or is Bumblebee the only one?

[-Kanrabat-]

I can see myself not getting much of this line. Which is fine, as far as movie figures go I've become VERY selective.

pace and money are also deciding factors. Money is not a problem for me, but SPACE is the real issue. Now, I even skip things that are non sale!

The days of grabbing everything in sight are clearly over for me.

[Autobot Roadburn]

I'm still looking forward to the new voyager Prime. It's nicer looking than I expected and I figure I'll end up painting a bunch more silver on his head. I have no idea why they put silver on his crotch guard section, there's no silver there in the movie and even if there was I'd rather get more paint on his face. I'm excited for the new Megatrons and Scorn like everyone else and definitely the new Bee. I love that they finally got his wheels in the right place and he looks way better put together than most of the previous Bumblebee molds. I'll put him next to my High Octane Bee on my shelf.

Also sorry for asking since I'm sure it's been brought up a few times, but what was the street date for wave 1 again? I thought it was the 24th, and my Toys R Us is saying if they don't get Titans wave 4 in tomorrow there's a good chance they'll come in with the Last Knight figures. Hopefully I can get Prime and Krok.

[chuckdawg1999]

You guys think these price jumps are going to apply to all lines, or is just because of the fancy packaging?

I've heard that this might be the new price point. Amazon has been slowly raising the price on deluxes when they have them in stock.