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SureShot18 wrote:

Primacron's Little Helper wrote:Anyone else reckon next year's May Mayhem could be a repainted Chromedome body with a repainted Loudmouth as Nightbeat?

I'm sure we'll get bodies for the heads at some point whether their released in the main line, as exclusives, or through third party companies. Or like you said during May Mayhem or something similar. Hasbro might also have the chance to release UW Blast Off next year during May mayhem

Hopefully Hasbro won't do blast off.

Prowl4 wrote:

SureShot18 wrote:

Primacron's Little Helper wrote:Anyone else reckon next year's May Mayhem could be a repainted Chromedome body with a repainted Loudmouth as Nightbeat?

I'm sure we'll get bodies for the heads at some point whether their released in the main line, as exclusives, or through third party companies. Or like you said during May Mayhem or something similar. Hasbro might also have the chance to release UW Blast Off next year during May mayhem

Hopefully Hasbro won't do blast off.

Why hopefully? I mean, I think it looks a bit crap, but it's still a new mold and a lot of people would like it.

Prowl4 wrote:
Hopefully Hasbro won't do blast off.

Why? I think its great if they would because the only way to get that toy is to import a full set.

I don't think Hasbro should be allowed to make takara exclusives as single card figures when fans of the takara version have waited. If you haven't bought the takara box set you shouldn't get it from Hasbro. Just reeks of entitlement and cheapness IMO.

Even before the first wave of Titans Return hits North America, we have in hand images of the second wave Deluxe Headmasters Highbrow and Chromedome. These come from the tfnd Facebook page and are filled with comparison shots to their larger G1 counterparts. You will find comparisons between Hardhead, Brainstorm and their G1 counterparts as well. Enjoy!

I have to resist this line because money...

But everything bar a few cassettes look so good

Prowl4 wrote:I don't think Hasbro should be allowed to make takara exclusives as single card figures when fans of the takara version have waited. If you haven't bought the takara box set you shouldn't get it from Hasbro. Just reeks of entitlement and cheapness IMO.

But they did it for Groove.

william-james88 wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:I don't think Hasbro should be allowed to make takara exclusives as single card figures when fans of the takara version have waited. If you haven't bought the takara box set you shouldn't get it from Hasbro. Just reeks of entitlement and cheapness IMO.

But they did it for Groove.

Felt the exact same about that it was disgraceful to release that.

Prowl4 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:I don't think Hasbro should be allowed to make takara exclusives as single card figures when fans of the takara version have waited. If you haven't bought the takara box set you shouldn't get it from Hasbro. Just reeks of entitlement and cheapness IMO.

But they did it for Groove.

Felt the exact same about that it was disgraceful to release that.

But there's definitely other reasons to get the Takara sets as well - especially in Bruticus' case, who Brawl and Swindle aside has completely different colours. Defensor also had a different colour scheme reflecting his flatter cartoon colours more.
It's not really invalidating the Takara sets at all, and it seems a bit entitled to say "Well I waited for it so only I should get it".

Prowl4 wrote:=P~

Kurona wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:So is the sdcc or general retail version of fortress maximus closer to the g1 American toon?

General Retail. SDCC has the Cerebros head and Master Sword from The Headmasters.

Yeah that's true. Does the paint on the retail fortress maximus body match the American toon?

Takara's Fort Max is the only one with colors that actually look like Fort Max colors. Neither the Hasbro retail version nor the Hasbro SDCC version has colors that match any known Fort Max color scheme. The Hasbro retail version has a Cerebros head that is based on the one Cerebros had in The Rebirth and the Marvel Comics, but that's it. The rest of the set looks nothing like the color scheme Fort Max in the cartoon.




Hasbro retail:


Hasbro SDCC:


TakaraTomy:


Out of all three, it's Takara's Fort Max whose colors end up resembling the American cartoon Fort Max colors the closest.

I thought Hasbro Retail was supposed to have red on the top of the feet....

Kurona wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:I don't think Hasbro should be allowed to make takara exclusives as single card figures when fans of the takara version have waited. If you haven't bought the takara box set you shouldn't get it from Hasbro. Just reeks of entitlement and cheapness IMO.

But they did it for Groove.

Felt the exact same about that it was disgraceful to release that.

But there's definitely other reasons to get the Takara sets as well - especially in Bruticus' case, who Brawl and Swindle aside has completely different colours. Defensor also had a different colour scheme reflecting his flatter cartoon colours more.
It's not really invalidating the Takara sets at all, and it seems a bit entitled to say "Well I waited for it so only I should get it".

No it's not. Takara from the get go have said they were producing groove and blast off. Perhaps you weren't looking when the entitlement and whining of Hasbro should do them started. Ever since takara announced groove there was an entitlement and now too it's starting with blast off. I believe the takara decoes are always going to be better but promoting stuff as an exclusive then somewhere else releasing it isn't an exclusive. If something in America is an exclusive the wider world don't get it. What irritates me is people going Hasbro bashing takara then looking for scraps off takaras table by getting their exclusives.

Agamemnon wrote:I thought Hasbro Retail was supposed to have red on the top of the feet....

Early stock photos and colored samples on display at events had them, but looking at in hand photos of the final released product, apparently the red on the feet didn't make the cut.

Sabrblade wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:I thought Hasbro Retail was supposed to have red on the top of the feet....

Early stock photos and colored samples on display at events had them, but looking at in hand photos of the final released product, apparently the red on the feet didn't make the cut.

Ah, yeah, I was going off of photos like this one:



Interesting....



I wonder if Logan would do side by sides of all of these. *sends up Wolverine-signal*

Prowl4 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:I don't think Hasbro should be allowed to make takara exclusives as single card figures when fans of the takara version have waited. If you haven't bought the takara box set you shouldn't get it from Hasbro. Just reeks of entitlement and cheapness IMO.

But they did it for Groove.

Felt the exact same about that it was disgraceful to release that.

But there's definitely other reasons to get the Takara sets as well - especially in Bruticus' case, who Brawl and Swindle aside has completely different colours. Defensor also had a different colour scheme reflecting his flatter cartoon colours more.
It's not really invalidating the Takara sets at all, and it seems a bit entitled to say "Well I waited for it so only I should get it".

No it's not. Takara from the get go have said they were producing groove and blast off. Perhaps you weren't looking when the entitlement and whining of Hasbro should do them started. Ever since takara announced groove there was an entitlement and now too it's starting with blast off. I believe the takara decoes are always going to be better but promoting stuff as an exclusive then somewhere else releasing it isn't an exclusive. If something in America is an exclusive the wider world don't get it. What irritates me is people going Hasbro bashing takara then looking for scraps off takaras table by getting their exclusives.

At the very least, Hasbro waited several months before doing their own release of Deluxe Groove, and initially only made it available in Taiwan as a Toys 'R' Us promotional exclusive. So anyone who wanted Groove badly enough got it from Takara long before Hasbro put theirs out, so anyone who got Takara's when it came out not only got first dibs on the figure but also got four other specially-painted figures and a very nice display box in which they were all packaged. Whereas Hasbro's release of Groove was bare bones and got no such bells and whistles.

Prowl4 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:I don't think Hasbro should be allowed to make takara exclusives as single card figures when fans of the takara version have waited. If you haven't bought the takara box set you shouldn't get it from Hasbro. Just reeks of entitlement and cheapness IMO.

But they did it for Groove.

Felt the exact same about that it was disgraceful to release that.

But there's definitely other reasons to get the Takara sets as well - especially in Bruticus' case, who Brawl and Swindle aside has completely different colours. Defensor also had a different colour scheme reflecting his flatter cartoon colours more.
It's not really invalidating the Takara sets at all, and it seems a bit entitled to say "Well I waited for it so only I should get it".

No it's not. Takara from the get go have said they were producing groove and blast off. Perhaps you weren't looking when the entitlement and whining of Hasbro should do them started. Ever since takara announced groove there was an entitlement and now too it's starting with blast off. I believe the takara decoes are always going to be better but promoting stuff as an exclusive then somewhere else releasing it isn't an exclusive. If something in America is an exclusive the wider world don't get it. What irritates me is people going Hasbro bashing takara then looking for scraps off takaras table by getting their exclusives.

Do you feel the same way about Ratchet in UW Lynx Master then?

2 things guys...

Whoever did the display model didn't transform the right leg properly & 2nd, ALL versions of Fortress Maximus come w/the guns. The leg guns detach & have pop-out handles that fit perfectly in-hand. The only difference seems to be the Master sword. Overall nice figure. I will be picking up the Takara version.

@tr_414 wrote:2 things guys...

Whoever did the display model didn't transform the right leg properly & 2nd, ALL versions of Fortress Maximus come w/the guns. The leg guns detach & have pop-out handles that fit perfectly in-hand. The only difference seems to be the Master sword. Overall nice figure. I will be picking up the Takara version.

Those aren't the guns people want, though. The guns people want are guns like the two big guns that the G1 toy had that were separate from the leg cannons, which did not detach from the legs on the G1 figure. People want this Fort Max to be as armed, both handheld and body-wise, as the original.

Sabrblade wrote:

@tr_414 wrote:2 things guys...

Whoever did the display model didn't transform the right leg properly & 2nd, ALL versions of Fortress Maximus come w/the guns. The leg guns detach & have pop-out handles that fit perfectly in-hand. The only difference seems to be the Master sword. Overall nice figure. I will be picking up the Takara version.

Those aren't the guns people want, though. The guns people want are guns like the two big guns that the G1 toy had that were separate from the leg cannons, which did not detach from the legs on the G1 figure. People want this Fort Max to be as armed, both handheld and body-wise, as the original.

I thought people wanted the hip cannons the most.
http://superhappycashcow.com/pic/Transf ... re23-3.jpg

Kurona wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

@tr_414 wrote:2 things guys...

Whoever did the display model didn't transform the right leg properly & 2nd, ALL versions of Fortress Maximus come w/the guns. The leg guns detach & have pop-out handles that fit perfectly in-hand. The only difference seems to be the Master sword. Overall nice figure. I will be picking up the Takara version.

Those aren't the guns people want, though. The guns people want are guns like the two big guns that the G1 toy had that were separate from the leg cannons, which did not detach from the legs on the G1 figure. People want this Fort Max to be as armed, both handheld and body-wise, as the original.

I thought people wanted the hip cannons the most.
http://superhappycashcow.com/pic/Transf ... re23-3.jpg

From what I've seen, people want every gun and cannon that the original had.

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

@tr_414 wrote:2 things guys...

Whoever did the display model didn't transform the right leg properly & 2nd, ALL versions of Fortress Maximus come w/the guns. The leg guns detach & have pop-out handles that fit perfectly in-hand. The only difference seems to be the Master sword. Overall nice figure. I will be picking up the Takara version.

Those aren't the guns people want, though. The guns people want are guns like the two big guns that the G1 toy had that were separate from the leg cannons, which did not detach from the legs on the G1 figure. People want this Fort Max to be as armed, both handheld and body-wise, as the original.

I thought people wanted the hip cannons the most.
http://superhappycashcow.com/pic/Transf ... re23-3.jpg

From what I've seen, people want every gun and cannon that the original had.

Fair enough - can't say I disagree in the slightest. Just thought it was the hip cannons that was the most important to peeps

The guns on his legs should stay on his legs, thats where they belong, they dont count. What we all want are actual big bue guns he had:



Like what Hasbro kept including in all the promotional renders before unveiling him:

Is it just me or is skytread's tank like just a shade away from being an armada demolisher reference

This is a great pose because it lends to a compelling story because as soon as the propellers turn on, it begins the legacy of the new Anklemasters.

I myself am underwhelmed by those. They to me are too small. They should have stuck to the the original sizes or better yet make them several inches taller than those. For me in most cases bigger is better. That is part of the reason why I got an MPP10 Optimus Prime by Weijing. This is another example of why I think third party is better three quarters of the time. I don't own an original Chromedome but I would take it over the new one there. The very best to me of Chromedome would be Make Toys Cupola. One thing I will say though in regards to updates to the Headmasters would have to be that Fort Max looks **** badass I prefer the looks of the original ones city mode better but robot mode looks better to me. And in regards to Chromedome and his fellow Headmaster companions the articulation and other things about them are nice like the head sculpts. And who knows maybe there will be oversize K.O.'s of them eventually to satisfy people like me who like bigger scale Transformers.