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Broadside27 wrote:It is one of my first digibashes.

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Sabrblade wrote:

Broadside27 wrote:It is one of my first digibashes.

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The thumbnail of the latest article.

YoungPrime wrote:It still would've made more sense if the carryover figure was Gnaw or even kickback since they're more likely to be troop built while Bumblebee will likely shelf-warm and receive more angst and resentment (it's not like his solo film is out this year so this is a dumb move by Hasbro if true).

Having his own TV show and likely having a huge role in the movie that IS coming out this year, that isn't good enough? It's been ten years of Bees, someone must be buying them.

Seibertron wrote:I still stand by my initial thoughts about Titans Return that the entire line would have been better have to have figured out how to do Powermasters, Targetmasters and Headmasters right, with a unified size for the Titan Masters. Not a fan of a double Targetmaster like Quake being turned into a Headmaster ... nor would I be a fan of Mindwipe being turned into a Targetmaster. I'm all for updating characters to suit a purpose, but at this point it's just kind of lazy that everyone gets the same gimmick. Oh well, a little late at this stage in the game.

With you that a mix would have been better (and there's also other things they could have looked into redoing, such as Braimasters if they wanted to make domestic toys of more Japanese characters or Micromasters to go with the bases they're making for Leader-Clas and up). But how well everyone getting the same gimmick goes over with me depends at least partly on what the gimmick is; "everyone is a Combiner" appealed to me more than "everyon is a Headmaster" does, and I'd take "everyone is a Triple Changer" over "everyone is a Double Pretender".

My minions still cannot find any sign of Gnaw or Kickback...

Yeah, no new Legends or Leaders in PDX - the only figures that are consistently available are Galvatron, Alpha Trion, Astrotrain....and Skywarp.

Still no Soundwave or Sixshot....or voyager Op & Megz.

Seibertron wrote:I still stand by my initial thoughts about Titans Return that the entire line would have been better have to have figured out how to do Powermasters, Targetmasters and Headmasters right, with a unified size for the Titan Masters. Not a fan of a double Targetmaster like Quake being turned into a Headmaster ... nor would I be a fan of Mindwipe being turned into a Targetmaster. I'm all for updating characters to suit a purpose, but at this point it's just kind of lazy that everyone gets the same gimmick. Oh well, a little late at this stage in the game.
I do like the aesthetics of most of this line, just want to keep the core characters as their original types for the most part.

I hope you get to read this response because there is something fun I noticed and wanted to share. I too found it too bad that they were turning everyone into a headmaster especially when John Warden first said that the Titan Masters would be what all the "masters" are called. I thought that just meant you would have diversified tiny bots that would all be bought under the titan master class. But then I realized that while poorly advertized, the titan masters can be used as both headmasters and targetmasters. Notice how all the titan master vehicles have weapon modes and in each of those modes, we are asked to place the titan master within it, as part of it. Like Apeface's titan master weapon configuration. In that case, the titan master, becomes a target master by fusing with the weapon mode.

Plus, look at all the weapons that come with the deluxes and voyagers. All of these weapons can have the titan master pilot them, once again having the titan master interact with the weapon rather than be a head. G1 didnt have that interaction between headmasters and weapons.

So now I see what Hasbro was going for when they said that titan masters would replace all the "masters", at least in the way that they interact as both headmasters and target masters, in this new take on it. Like that the titan masters can interact with all the bots in different ways and different configurations while being either heads or adding to the firepower.

In short, to catch up:

still not impressed with Kup, but still getting him.

Quake is the only one I can say I will definitely skip. I need to see Krok to make that decision.

Looking forward to Topspin and Perceptor.

Roadburn: my wish is coming true. Throttle bots!

Heh, just realized, Krok as an alligator is going to look a little like this:


Now we need a red character that can be made into a bat and then we can do some head swapping.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Heh, just realized, Krok as an alligator is going to look a little like this:


Now we need a red character that can be made into a bat and then we can do some head swapping.

Emerje

Erm......wouldn't Krok just be a reuse of the Skullsmasher mold

Hasbro seem to be slipping back into CW habits again. While I don't mind turning people in Headmasters, I wish they would actually do the "masters" - Head/Target/Power first before throwing in misc characters.

Still no sign of: Hosehead, Crosshairs, Sureshot, Pointblank, Misfire, Slugslinger, Cyclonus, Joyride, Snapdragon, Slapdash, Dreadwind, Darkwing, Scorponok, Scoop, Quickmix, Spinster, Needlenose, Landfill, Doubledealer

That's about 19 toys that should be made before anyone else.

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Emerje wrote:Heh, just realized, Krok as an alligator is going to look a little like this:


Now we need a red character that can be made into a bat and then we can do some head swapping.

Emerje

Erm......wouldn't Krok just be a reuse of the Skullsmasher mold

The colors, man, the colors.

Emerje

Qwan wrote:Sure do! Sorry it took me a while to get things in order to take the pictures.

Thanks very much for the time and effort with the scourge pics.

Much appreciated and looks useful.

I found this on a Facebook Page (idk what is the source links)
but hey, some retooling found on Topspin (Misfire?), the rest are redecoes (except Quake?)
a possible revealed of the deluxe waves?
Anyways, the waves are revealed, Featuring Quake (Retool/Remold?),Topspin,Kup (already revealed), Krok (with a weird repaint) and the most favorite and autobot scientist, is none of all is Perceptor!

This is the image in question I believe.

It's interesting how we saw images for the Combiner Wars G2 repaints almost a year before they were released and yet still haven't seen anything regarding Titans Return Krok and Quake which are coming out in less than a month (in some areas). Well, thanks to Albatross250 we finally have our first look at Quake and Krok in a small image of all 5 2017 wave 2 deluxes without their heads. This confirms that they are indeed straight redecos of Skullsmasher and Hardhead. We also see Topspin who looks like a new mold. If you are the owner of this image, please let us know so that we can give you the deserved credit.

william-james88 wrote:I hope you get to read this response because there is something fun I noticed and wanted to share. I too found it too bad that they were turning everyone into a headmaster especially when John Warden first said that the Titan Masters would be what all the "masters" are called. I thought that just meant you would have diversified tiny bots that would all be bought under the titan master class. But then I realized that while poorly advertized, the titan masters can be used as both headmasters and targetmasters. Notice how all the titan master vehicles have weapon modes and in each of those modes, we are asked to place the titan master within it, as part of it. Like Apeface's titan master weapon configuration. In that case, the titan master, becomes a target master by fusing with the weapon mode.

Plus, look at all the weapons that come with the deluxes and voyagers. All of these weapons can have the titan master pilot them, once again having the titan master interact with the weapon rather than be a head. G1 didnt have that interaction between headmasters and weapons.

So now I see what Hasbro was going for when they said that titan masters would replace all the "masters", at least in the way that they interact as both headmasters and target masters, in this new take on it. Like that the titan masters can interact with all the bots in different ways and different configurations while being either heads or adding to the firepower.

It's not only the head and target masters, but the titan masters also can combine with the vehicle modes on many of the releases to also emulate the power masters as well. Brawn is a great example. He can be a head, he can pilot the motorcycle thingy, be the engine for the offroad truck or a part of the gun.

I rather like this figure and I think he looks pretty fun. I have the Generations version, but don't like him nearly as much as I should, though I am not much of a Kup fan. Plus, my Generations version has a super loose and wobbly head.

I think I am looking forward to this wave of Deluxe figures more than any of the others in this line...so far.

Hope we get a Twin Twist retool from Topspin.

No promises on that TR Kup head not being wobbly. I love Titans Return, but man are those figures heads wobbly.

Quake looks great. Krok looks decent, but I hate the Skullsmasher mold.

We just saw the first image of Krok and Quake and now we get to see what their heads look like. This is courtesy of TFND's Facebook page. Below each is an image of their G1 counterparts for you to see where some of the design is coming from.




Transformers G1 1990 Krok with Gatoraider Gallery




Transformers G1 1988 Quake Gallery

I'm not a big fan of using Skullsmasher for Krok, but I'll be damned if that's not a beautiful facesculpt. Perfect.

And, of course, it looks just like him.

Looking at that new noggin for Krok... yeah, this is one instance where I feel the Club did in better, to be frank.



Action Master Krok weren't no blockhead.

Sabrblade wrote:Looking at that new noggin for Krok... yeah, this is one instance where I feel the Club did in better, to be frank.



Action Master Krok weren't no blockhead.

I think that toy is superior simply for the alt mode use. it gives h the right kibble in robot mode.

And can anyone confirm if those are the movie decepticon symbols we see on these guys?

darn i dont want to get quake but that face. idk if i will get him tho. im trying to cut down on characters i dont know or repaints bc i have some mps/3rd party to get