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Deadput wrote:

Kurona wrote:Honestly, I'd say if we're getting a Topspin then Twin Twist is pretty much confirmed.

You would think so yet as of yet the rumors say nothing about him and the list has a lot of figures on it probably the next two or three waves.

They might do what they did with the insecticons and release Twin Twist in Prime wars or whatever it's called because I doubt Hasbro will do an entire line with only Primes in it.

I actually hope they don't push Twin Twist into the next phase (Power of the Primes?). So far, it has mainly been the Legends figures that have crossed over the toylines, with exception to the Jetfire/Seeker Leader Class mold. All the Deluxes and Voyagers have been unique models to the respective lines, mainly because of the gimmicks. If they push Twin Twist into the Power of the Primes (or whatever), then he likely won't be a titan master.

Krok and Quake do look like better repaints than Getaway but Krok is the only one I might pick up. As much as I don't like Krok turning into a gator it looks nice and he's in MTMTE. Quake and Kup are passes for me. I'll probably only get 4 or 5 figures from this wave which is about normal, more or less.

While Titans Return Krok looks like a decent option for those who didn't get the Club version, I think I'll be sticking with the latter. I think the key point for me is the separate Gatoraider figure it came with, which is probably the head on the TR figure.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I actually hope they don't push Twin Twist into the next phase (Power of the Primes?). So far, it has mainly been the Legends figures that have crossed over the toylines, with exception to the Jetfire/Seeker Leader Class mold. All the Deluxes and Voyagers have been unique models to the respective lines, mainly because of the gimmicks. If they push Twin Twist into the Power of the Primes (or whatever), then he likely won't be a titan master.

There's also Leader class PM Prime from CW UM. basically...I wouldn't expect to see any reuse of Voyagers or Deluxes from the previous line since they were all combiners (Bodies or Limbs), but as we see, there is limited crossover with Leaders and Legends. basically if every Leader/Legend gets at least 2 uses, you shouldn't see any crossover into the next line, but if not, there may be some.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
I actually hope they don't push Twin Twist into the next phase (Power of the Primes?). So far, it has mainly been the Legends figures that have crossed over the toylines, with exception to the Jetfire/Seeker Leader Class mold. All the Deluxes and Voyagers have been unique models to the respective lines, mainly because of the gimmicks. If they push Twin Twist into the Power of the Primes (or whatever), then he likely won't be a titan master.

No he would not be a Titan Master he would be a whatevernewgimmickz master so say all the figures that are rumored so far are it then even if we get a new Twin Twist he would still not match with Top Spin.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:it has mainly been the Legends figures that have crossed over the toylines, with exception to the Jetfire/Seeker Leader Class mold.

And Chromedome from Dead End

All this Titans Return Wave 4 news exciting everyone? Well, we've still got some news from Wave 3 - specifically, a new trailer recently released by Hasbro advertising the wave. It features - rather unsurprisingly - Optimus, Megatron and Hot Rod; but it also rather notably features Sawback and Fangry, this being the first time these characters have been featured in American animation. Check out the 20-second TV ad embedded below!

It's been so long since I've had regular television, do these commercials actually ever air, or are they just viewable online?

That's another thing I will say for the 80's...the commercials were on seemingly all the time, as long as a kids program was on, not just during the actual Transformers show itself. I have no idea where/when these commercials air.

In before all of the comments of "They should make a new G1 cartoon that looks exactly like the animated footage in that commercial!!!!"

Sabrblade wrote:In before all of the comments of "They make a new G1 cartoon that looks exactly like the animated footage in that commercial!!!!"

Aye...if Machinima ever does one! as they did with Combiner Wars

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:In before all of the comments of "They should make a new G1 cartoon that looks exactly like the animated footage in that commercial!!!!"

Aye...if Machinima ever does one! as they did with Combiner Wars

Missed the joke, you did. Over your head, it went.

Sabrblade wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:In before all of the comments of "They make a new G1 cartoon that looks exactly like the animated footage in that commercial!!!!"

Aye...if Machinima ever does one! as they did with Combiner Wars

Missed the joke, you did. Over your head, it went.

They make a new G1 cartoon that looks exactly like the animated footage in that commercial!!!!

I got it.

They should make a new G1 cartoon that looks exactly like the animated footage in that commercial!!!!

CGI Hotrod's A-Pillars are painted unlike the toy.

Bumblebee21 wrote:

GuyIncognito wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:

GuyIncognito wrote:I don't think Topspin is a "new" mold. I think it's a remold of the Highbrow mold.

you just started it

Started what?

the remold wars

No matter who it is don't like how figures look they little weird

Alright, checking Topspin's TM against those of every other Deluxe in the line so far, I can basically confirm that Topspin is indeed a new mold. The Titan Master's molding doesn't match up with any other Deluxe's (and presumably is also different from all the other classes too, not that that should matter since some kind of crazy cross-class TM transfer, if even possible at all, would probably require a new body mold anyway). Wolfwire is the one it's closest to, but even the similarities there are negligible, not nearly enough to suggest any kind of shared parts. So, three new molds this wave (assuming Perceptor isn't some kind of major retool of someone else)! Hooray!

Qwan wrote:Alright, checking Topspin's TM against those of every other Deluxe in the line so far, I can basically confirm that Topspin is indeed a new mold. The Titan Master's molding doesn't match up with any other Deluxe's (and presumably is also different from all the other classes too, not that that should matter since some kind of crazy cross-class TM transfer, if even possible at all, would probably require a new body mold anyway). Wolfwire is the one it's closest to, but even the similarities there are negligible, not nearly enough to suggest any kind of shared parts. So, three new molds this wave (assuming Perceptor isn't some kind of major retool of someone else)! Hooray!

Nice! Good to get confirmation; it did look a little like Triggerhappy to me but I'm glad it's a whole new mold.

Kurona wrote:

Qwan wrote:Alright, checking Topspin's TM against those of every other Deluxe in the line so far, I can basically confirm that Topspin is indeed a new mold. The Titan Master's molding doesn't match up with any other Deluxe's (and presumably is also different from all the other classes too, not that that should matter since some kind of crazy cross-class TM transfer, if even possible at all, would probably require a new body mold anyway). Wolfwire is the one it's closest to, but even the similarities there are negligible, not nearly enough to suggest any kind of shared parts. So, three new molds this wave (assuming Perceptor isn't some kind of major retool of someone else)! Hooray!

Nice! Good to get confirmation; it did look a little like Triggerhappy to me but I'm glad it's a whole new mold.

I checked it too, and he's right, all new. Now, who's Freezeout named and designed after? He's named after the AoE Kreon Micro Changer, and he's designed after ehm... I don't know? I checked Aimless for a possible Misfire retool, but nope. Maybe after Topspin himself? It has happened.
Perceptor is also a whole new mold: his Titan Master Convex is designed after the original G1 toy, mouthplate and all. That seems to be the trend: Titan Masters take on toy designs, while the head modes go full on cartoon or comic.

Krok and Quake are as predicted... so where are the Titan Master names? O, don't expect TakaraTomy to release them.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Qwan wrote:Alright, checking Topspin's TM against those of every other Deluxe in the line so far, I can basically confirm that Topspin is indeed a new mold. The Titan Master's molding doesn't match up with any other Deluxe's (and presumably is also different from all the other classes too, not that that should matter since some kind of crazy cross-class TM transfer, if even possible at all, would probably require a new body mold anyway). Wolfwire is the one it's closest to, but even the similarities there are negligible, not nearly enough to suggest any kind of shared parts. So, three new molds this wave (assuming Perceptor isn't some kind of major retool of someone else)! Hooray!

Nice! Good to get confirmation; it did look a little like Triggerhappy to me but I'm glad it's a whole new mold.

I checked it too, and he's right, all new. Now, who's Freezeout named and designed after? He's named after the AoE Kreon Micro Changer, and he's designed after ehm... I don't know? I checked Aimless for a possible Misfire retool, but nope. Maybe after Topspin himself? It has happened.
Perceptor is also a whole new mold: his Titan Master Convex is designed after the original G1 toy, mouthplate and all. That seems to be the trend: Titan Masters take on toy designs, while the head modes go full on cartoon or comic.

Krok and Quake are as predicted... so where are the Titan Master names? O, don't expect TakaraTomy to release them.

You may have answered your own question - Freezeout, at least to me without higher-quality pictures; does seem to resemble Topspin quite a bit.

dragons wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:

GuyIncognito wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:

GuyIncognito wrote:I don't think Topspin is a "new" mold. I think it's a remold of the Highbrow mold.

you just started it

Started what?

the remold wars

No matter who it is don't like how figures look they little weird

If it's from Highbrow I can dig it. I have Highbrow and he's a very sturdy and well-built toy.

SillySpringer wrote:

dragons wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:

GuyIncognito wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:

GuyIncognito wrote:I don't think Topspin is a "new" mold. I think it's a remold of the Highbrow mold.

you just started it

Started what?

the remold wars

No matter who it is don't like how figures look they little weird

If it's from Highbrow I can dig it. I have Highbrow and he's a very sturdy and well-built toy.

It appears to not be from anyone - as noted above, the Titan Master is new, indicating the mold itself is new!

Kurona wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

dragons wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:

GuyIncognito wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:

GuyIncognito wrote:I don't think Topspin is a "new" mold. I think it's a remold of the Highbrow mold.

you just started it

Started what?

the remold wars

No matter who it is don't like how figures look they little weird

If it's from Highbrow I can dig it. I have Highbrow and he's a very sturdy and well-built toy.

It appears to not be from anyone - as noted above, the Titan Master is new, indicating the mold itself is new!

The cockpit area reminds me a lot of Blurr's btw.

GATORFACE! That's the most beautiful thing I've seen all day

HOLD ON A SECOND

That Head scheme reminds me of...

OVERLORD CONFIRMED?

Straight from the Cybertron Phillippines Facebook page courtesy of fellow user steals_your_goats, we have packaging images for everything (sans Leader-class Sky Shadow) in Wave 4 of Titans Return - including the very recently confirmed Krok and Quake; redecoes of Wave 1's Skullsmasher and Hardhead!
With the packaging reveal not only comes some neat art and a close look at the toys themselves, but also finally the reveal of the names of the Titan Masters of Topspin, Quake and Krok - respectively; Freezeout, Chasm and Gatorface.

Have a look at the embedded images below, keep in mind that this wave has re-releases of older figures in the Legends and Titan Master classes:













We also have an image of Titans Return Deluxe Topspin on the TFND Facebook page

If you can't read it properly, this is what is written for Topspin's bio:

"FREEZEOUT gives AUTOBOT TOPSPIN the ability to target and deactivate the conversion cog of other bots, freezing enemies in whatever mode they are in."

Lastly here are recent official stock images found on Robot Kingdom:








Let us know what you think!