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Eh. Not for me. I don't care enough about Black Shadow to want this, and to be honest, for Overlord I'm tempted to save up for Carnifex instead- he just looks so good. I know it's unfair to compare a retail Hasbro figure to a niche high-end 3P figure, but Overlord deserves no less. Now granted I have zero personal connection to Overlord (never watched Masterforce or read IDW) but c'mon, it's OVERLORD. Only the best for him.

Now a Leader figure I DO want at some point is Blaster. He just looks like a lot of fun, and if I'm honest the size doesn't bother me. A shame the only really good "cassette" mold at the moment is Rewind, but hey, he can only hold one at a time anyway.

Nah i'd rather wait for Overlord &/or Dai Atlas

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Sky Shadow is buy on sight at full price for me

Thanks for all the answers guys! (though Dalton, you dont feel too bummed about Sixshot to buy another leader figure full price?)

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:So, how many of you would actually buy this toy on site full price if you saw it in Walmart today?

Considering Walmart in the U.S. has reduced Leaders to just under $40.00 I totally would..

Ha, thats not buying this toy at full price though.

Black Hat wrote:Now a Leader figure I DO want at some point is Blaster. He just looks like a lot of fun, and if I'm honest the size doesn't bother me. A shame the only really good "cassette" mold at the moment is Rewind, but hey, he can only hold one at a time anyway.

I kid you not, Blaster is by far the best Leader Class TF from Titans Return, that is a smart choice right there. And stripes isnt that terrible, but I wouldnt say he is worth full price.

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Sky Shadow is buy on sight at full price for me

Thanks for all the answers guys! (though Dalton, you dont feel too bummed about Sixshot to buy another leader figure full price?)

I feel bummed about Sixshot, but from reviews I was having doubts. Reviews so far have given me real hope for the figure being really cool, and black/red/silver is pretty much my favorite color scheme, and I love the duocon gimmick. He's awesome to me

william-james88 wrote:Ha, thats not buying this toy at full price though.

If $40 is the new normal that Walmart charges for TR Leaders, how is that not Full Price?...you related your story specifically to on site at B&M, and even more specifically Walmart... considering there are possibly only 3 B&M places that will ever have this in the U.S. I chose the one you specified... If you ask me will I pay Full Price ($45) at Target or ($46) at TRU...I may have to think it over...

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Ha, thats not buying this toy at full price though.

If $40 is the new normal that Walmart charges for TR Leaders, how is that not Full Price?...you related your story specifically to on site at B&M, and even more specifically Walmart... considering there are possibly only 3 B&M places that will ever have this in the U.S. I chose the one you specified... If you ask me will I pay Full Price ($45) at Target or ($46) at TRU...I may have to think it over...

I misunderstood, I thought you meant that the $40 was a special price at walmart and not the full price.
In any case, I was being cheeky, its a $5 difference it would still count as pretty damn near full price.

After getting Sentinel Prime first and finding him mediocre, then finally getting Astrotrain and seeing how awesome he would have been if I'd bought him first, I've decided to stop buying the pre tools till after I get the character I want.

So no Megatron, no Optimus, and no on this guy.

william-james88 wrote:While the US is finally able to get Sixshot (albeit online), that leader has been out in Canada for a while and with wave 4 of Titans Return creeping up everywhere it was only a matter of time before we got our first sighing of the Leader figure for that wave. Sky Shadow was found at an Ontario Walmart according to a tweet from Ryan Sheehey.

What is odd about all this is that while he appears at a Canadian Walmart before the US even sees Sixshot at retail, Sixshot has yet to appear at Canadian Toysrus stores. So far, in North America, only Walmart Canada has recieved either Sixshot or Sky Shadow at brick and mortar. So, how many of you would actually buy this toy on site full price if you saw it in Walmart today?

ME!

I like him more than Sixshot's design. Waiting for figures to hit my area retail has become terrible. So like Sixshot I'll be grabbing this Phase Sixer online.

I saw Soundwave at my local Walmart just before Christmas. I'd already managed to snag him at A3&U for $29 when they were having their Christmas sales. That same local Walmart, by the way, just restocked 4 cases of Wave 1 Leaders a week or two ago.

What the HELL is up with Hasbro's distribution for this line?? Never has a full wave assortment managed to make it onto shelves at the same time during the ENTIRE run of Titans Return. Soundwave, that I mentioned above, he showed up a few weeks AFTER the one and only time I've seen Wave 3 deluxes at any retail. And now Wave 4 deluxes are starting to hit here and there, and we STILL have barely seen Sixshot, and only at online retailers at that.

Well, one cool thing is...I guess *if* as we speculate Overlord is based on Sky Shadow, and you have them both, you can mix/match torso's & legs...

o.supreme wrote:Well, one cool thing is...I guess *if* as we speculate Overlord is based on Sky Shadow, and you have them both, you can mix/match torso's & legs...

It's the other way around: Sky Shadow is based on Overlord. Not only is the Titan Master based on one of his engines (the female one if I may add), Overlord (and not Sky Shadow) was the one teased at BotCon 2016:



He also has a product code: C2388, with Sky Shadow's C1104.

I would ask "Why did they wait so long to release Overlord?", but that would be too obvious.

o.supreme wrote:Well, one cool thing is...I guess *if* as we speculate Overlord is based on Sky Shadow, and you have them both, you can mix/match torso's & legs...

Blue, white and purple with black and red... Could be fun.

So as we head into (hopefully) our next big set of reveals in just two days, I just want to say how very impressed I am at Hasbro's ability to keep things under wraps this time around. Considering that the last big set of reveals was pretty underwhelming since we'd been spoiled on most of them by leaks, I honestly can't think of a single thing we're predicting to be shown at this one that has been leaked or otherwise revealed beforehand. (Disregarding Trypticon of course, but even he was revealed both officially and intentionally!)

Qwan wrote:So as we head into (hopefully) our next big set of reveals in just two days, I just want to say how very impressed I am at Hasbro's ability to keep things under wraps this time around. Considering that the last big set of reveals was pretty underwhelming since we'd been spoiled on most of them by leaks, I honestly can't think of a single thing we're predicting to be shown at this one that has been leaked or otherwise revealed beforehand. (Disregarding Trypticon of course, but even he was revealed both officially and intentionally!)

Well there's Windblade (Out of possibly the Highbrow mold), and Misfire.

SillySpringer wrote:

Qwan wrote:So as we head into (hopefully) our next big set of reveals in just two days, I just want to say how very impressed I am at Hasbro's ability to keep things under wraps this time around. Considering that the last big set of reveals was pretty underwhelming since we'd been spoiled on most of them by leaks, I honestly can't think of a single thing we're predicting to be shown at this one that has been leaked or otherwise revealed beforehand. (Disregarding Trypticon of course, but even he was revealed both officially and intentionally!)

Well there's Windblade (Out of possibly the Highbrow mold), and Misfire.

I think they mean outside of rumour lists. Which we always have.

Kurona wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Qwan wrote:So as we head into (hopefully) our next big set of reveals in just two days, I just want to say how very impressed I am at Hasbro's ability to keep things under wraps this time around. Considering that the last big set of reveals was pretty underwhelming since we'd been spoiled on most of them by leaks, I honestly can't think of a single thing we're predicting to be shown at this one that has been leaked or otherwise revealed beforehand. (Disregarding Trypticon of course, but even he was revealed both officially and intentionally!)

Well there's Windblade (Out of possibly the Highbrow mold), and Misfire.

I think they mean outside of rumour lists. Which we always have.

Yeah, but those are apparently retools, so we at least know kinda how they'd look.

I really hope they show Slugslinger. He would be a nice surprise.

SillySpringer wrote:

Kurona wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Qwan wrote:So as we head into (hopefully) our next big set of reveals in just two days, I just want to say how very impressed I am at Hasbro's ability to keep things under wraps this time around. Considering that the last big set of reveals was pretty underwhelming since we'd been spoiled on most of them by leaks, I honestly can't think of a single thing we're predicting to be shown at this one that has been leaked or otherwise revealed beforehand. (Disregarding Trypticon of course, but even he was revealed both officially and intentionally!)

Well there's Windblade (Out of possibly the Highbrow mold), and Misfire.

I think they mean outside of rumour lists. Which we always have.

Yeah, but those are apparently retools, so we at least know kinda how they'd look.

I really hope they show Slugslinger. He would be a nice surprise.

Fair, fair.

Honestly, I'm kind of expecting them to show off the rest of the line. We only have two waves left, they probably couldn't hope to top Trypticon at another TR reveal, and there's a new movie coming up so they might want to get everything else out of the way quickly to build up hype for that.
Anyone know when CW Wave 6 and CW's boxsets were revealed, for comparison?

Kurona wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:
Yeah, but those are apparently retools, so we at least know kinda how they'd look.

I really hope they show Slugslinger. He would be a nice surprise.

Fair, fair.

Honestly, I'm kind of expecting them to show off the rest of the line. We only have two waves left, they probably couldn't hope to top Trypticon at another TR reveal, and there's a new movie coming up so they might want to get everything else out of the way quickly to build up hype for that.
Anyone know when CW Wave 6 and CW's boxsets were revealed, for comparison?

A quick Google informs me that Bruticus and Sky Reign were revealed at Botcon 2015, around mid-June, and Victorion seems to have been revealed around early July at SDCC (though she's a bit of a special case), along with G2 Superion at the same time. If we bear in mind that TR's waves are offset by approximately 6 months (since CW ran for 6 waves = ~18 months), this seems like about the right time to reveal everything.
'Course, I could be totally wrong. That's always an option.

And while I agree that we probably can more-or-less tell what Misfire will look like by knowing what he's pretooled from, I have to argue that we have no definitive idea what Windblade-from-Highbrow will actually be like. A minor retool (or even just a new head) of that mold would be extremely inaccurate to the character as we know her - so either she's a major retool, in which case we haven't got a solid idea how that'd turn out, or the name 'Windblade' is being used for a different character, in which case we can't possibly predict which character it is therefore we still can't really tell what it'll look like.
...But once again, I could be totally wrong and it actually will just be the Highbrow mold with a head that looks like someone painted Windblade's face on a cardboard box. In which case I will be extremely disappointed.

Kurona wrote:I think they mean outside of rumour lists. Which we always have.

There us a good question to be asked her, has there been any titqns return reveal that we didnt know of in advance so far?
Overlord's silouette might be the only one.

What also should consider is that we don't know when exactly Titans Return is going to end. Usually lines last full years, but Age of Extinction and Combiner Wars buck that by being 6 and 18 months respectively. In other words, will it end at the middle or the end of the year? That will influence the amount of content we get to see.

And we actually have only one more unknown wave to the full 4: Wave 5 is pretty much known except for Deluxe Class, it's the wave after that we don't know the lineup of, nor was anything hinted. Worse, the rumored amount of figures are worth more than a single wave can contain at this point, unless they all ended up in the box sets.

Already teased us with some Overlord Cameos
[SPOILER]

Also the Jet Form of his will be like on his Masterforce Counterpart, His fan mode too, None other than the SPACE JET MODE :

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:I think they mean outside of rumour lists. Which we always have.

There us a good question to be asked here, has there been any titans return reveal that we didn't know of in advance so far?
Overlord's silhouette might be the only one.

Anyways, that is a good question. I feel like some of the smaller classes, at least, had some surprise figures in them but I couldn't for the life of me say which ones. I'd also argue, though, that it doesn't matter so much because we had so many lists, with so many conflicting rumours, that we had (and still have) no idea what exactly is and isn't true until it gets revealed for real.

(Originally of course, I was just meaning actual images of the figure itself being leaked, but this is definitely a more interesting line of discussion.)

Kurona wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:As we wait to finally see some pics of the Blitzwing pre-tool of Titans Return Voyager Megatron, I'm hoping we get a pleasant surprise in the form of three Titan Masters for him, one for each of his Transformers Animated faces. I know a lot of people don't like the Thrilling 30 Blitzwing from a few years back, mainly because of the wonky shoulders, but I appreciated the face changing gimmick quite a bit. It would be a shame to loose that now. I know it's not really a thing for the G1 character, but it's a fun little option, nonetheless.

That would be a perfect use of the Titan Master gimmick... but unfortunately the current design team seems a bit too bogged down in Absolute-G1-accuracy-to-the-max-and-maybe-sometimes-we-throw-a-bone-to-IDW-and-Armada...

The last time they threw a bone to Armada, IIRC, was Thrilling 30 Starscream, and even that can pass for the G1 guy (and IDW even used it as him for a while). And that was because it was an anniversary line so they had to throw in a few random non-G1 figures to pretend they cared about the non-G1 "filler" lines. Even RiD is moving towards "all G1, all the time" now. At this rate, in a few years, there's gonna be a little boy in some toy store somewhere holding up a Rescue Bot going "Daddy, why does Chase's box say 'Prowl' on it?"

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Not me. Too big and expensive for a character I care nothing about other than he's previously used retools of Thunderwing toys.

Black Hat wrote:Eh. Not for me. I don't care enough about Black Shadow to want this,

Does ANYONE have any real attachment to this character? I mean, has he ever had any significant roles in anything other than one episode of Victory?

Zeedust wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:As we wait to finally see some pics of the Blitzwing pre-tool of Titans Return Voyager Megatron, I'm hoping we get a pleasant surprise in the form of three Titan Masters for him, one for each of his Transformers Animated faces. I know a lot of people don't like the Thrilling 30 Blitzwing from a few years back, mainly because of the wonky shoulders, but I appreciated the face changing gimmick quite a bit. It would be a shame to loose that now. I know it's not really a thing for the G1 character, but it's a fun little option, nonetheless.

That would be a perfect use of the Titan Master gimmick... but unfortunately the current design team seems a bit too bogged down in Absolute-G1-accuracy-to-the-max-and-maybe-sometimes-we-throw-a-bone-to-IDW-and-Armada...

The last time they threw a bone to Armada, IIRC, was Thrilling 30 Starscream, and even that can pass for the G1 guy (and IDW even used it as him for a while). And that was because it was an anniversary line so they had to throw in a few random non-G1 figures to pretend they cared about the non-G1 "filler" lines. Even RiD is moving towards "all G1, all the time" now. At this rate, in a few years, there's gonna be a little boy in some toy toy store somewhere holding up a Rescue Bot going "Daddy, why does Chase's box say 'Prowl' on it?"

Actually, the last time they threw a bone to Armada - and the only time this particular design team has done so - was the Armada Megatron new-head redeco in Combiner Wars.