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Rysquad wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Relic0037 wrote:

Rysquad wrote:Finally found the Clone Two-Pack at the two closest Walgreen's to me. They're putting them on the same shelf space as their Deluxes.

I'm still searching for that. Guess I'll make the rounds again today while I'm out & about. I really don't want to pay eBay prices for a clone set!

You and me both. They are the last of TR for me! grr twin completionism...

Of the two I checked, 1 store had 1 box left. But the other had 6 boxes.

Also, they're priced per store. One store had it for $18.99. The other had them for $17.99.

Hold out Siebertronian's and don't pull the trigger just yet. Here in the West I went to a local WG and found me a set as I too came close to buying on Ebay. (now I can delete all the "saved watches" in my account for this )

I paid $17.99 and I found them on a end-cap display just across from all the toys that are arranged for holiday buys and not were the regular toy section is. There were several there for both You and Me. Don't pay Ebay prices just yet!!!

Skritz wrote:With sales at TRU (and a really stocked Transformers rack) I've been thinking of grabbing Blitzwing and Octane. Are they worth it? Kinda need Astrotrain to complete the trio, so I guess finding a place which still sale him would be another factor to consider. This is a bit harder than it look because I initially passed up on Astrotrain when he was shelfwarming but now that Octane and Blitzwing are the one clogging up the store I regret not picking him up.

So, Blitzwing and Octane: thoughts on these two? Don't have a previous version of the mold of these two but I do have Sentinel in the Astrotrain mold.

Mind you, I am saving up for Power of the Primes once it hit and the triple-changer trio weren't originally in my collecting plans...

Well I have all 3, and I totally get wanting all or none. In my opinion, the Octane version is the best of that mold, and is actually my favorite voyager overall for TR. Blitzwing is definitely an improvement over the Thrilling 30 version. The tank mode suffers a little on the color scheme with the wings forming the back. Both are great molds, and more fun in my opinion than the fairly simple Sentinel/Astrotrain mold (which I do also like).

Getting both of these at a discount might make it worth it to track down an Astrotrain. That's where I think your real question lies. How much on top of Bliztwing and Octane it would take to complete the trio for a mold you already have.

Skritz wrote:With sales at TRU (and a really stocked Transformers rack) I've been thinking of grabbing Blitzwing and Octane. Are they worth it? Kinda need Astrotrain to complete the trio, so I guess finding a place which still sale him would be another factor to consider. This is a bit harder than it look because I initially passed up on Astrotrain when he was shelfwarming but now that Octane and Blitzwing are the one clogging up the store I regret not picking him up.

So, Blitzwing and Octane: thoughts on these two? Don't have a previous version of the mold of these two but I do have Sentinel in the Astrotrain mold.

Mind you, I am saving up for Power of the Primes once it hit and the triple-changer trio weren't originally in my collecting plans...

Eh, if you can find Astrotrain at a good price somewhere online, I would buy them both! Octone is a great figure, the 2nd best of TR behind Alpha Trion for me, though the Blitzwing mold has given me some issues, mostly with his legs being terrifying to transform. Astrotrain is pretty good too, though the shuttle mode is definitely better than the train mode

Skritz wrote:So, Blitzwing and Octane: thoughts on these two? Don't have a previous version of the mold of these two but I do have Sentinel in the Astrotrain mold.

only have the orig use of the molds, but the prime/octane is fun with his other fan modes/legends comic. I wasn't too fussed about getting the standard prime but after picking up nemesis/scourge legend it was hard not to (still waiting on finding the box set with him as g2).

Megatron/blitzwing, megs suffers from bits popping off when transforming (at least on mine) but the plane mode looks great leading my classics seekers and blitzwing doesnt have as short/stubby tank cannon so it's an improvement over the megs (I'm trying to find a megs cheap so I can have him in robot mode as well with it being a nice figure). I'd suggest the legends over the hasbro but as you have the luxury of picking it up at retail it might outweigh importing for some minor differences. The stickers arent great on megs and would have to assume the same for hasbro blitz.

Nemesis Destron wrote:

Rysquad wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Relic0037 wrote:

Rysquad wrote:Finally found the Clone Two-Pack at the two closest Walgreen's to me. They're putting them on the same shelf space as their Deluxes.

I'm still searching for that. Guess I'll make the rounds again today while I'm out & about. I really don't want to pay eBay prices for a clone set!

You and me both. They are the last of TR for me! grr twin completionism...

Of the two I checked, 1 store had 1 box left. But the other had 6 boxes.

Also, they're priced per store. One store had it for $18.99. The other had them for $17.99.

Hold out Siebertronian's and don't pull the trigger just yet. Here in the West I went to a local WG and found me a set as I too came close to buying on Ebay. (now I can delete all the "saved watches" in my account for this )

I paid $17.99 and I found them on a end-cap display just across from all the toys that are arranged for holiday buys and not were the regular toy section is. There were several there for both You and Me. Don't pay Ebay prices just yet!!!

This is why I went Takara. I figured by the time I tracked down the Clone Set and Fast Lane (I missed the first Box) I could sell my Pounce, buy both Takara Sets, and come out ahead. (taking intobaccount the income from Pounce) I actually preferred the Hasbro decos, but thus is so much less stressful

Skritz wrote:With sales at TRU (and a really stocked Transformers rack) I've been thinking of grabbing Blitzwing and Octane. Are they worth it? Kinda need Astrotrain to complete the trio, so I guess finding a place which still sale him would be another factor to consider. This is a bit harder than it look because I initially passed up on Astrotrain when he was shelfwarming but now that Octane and Blitzwing are the one clogging up the store I regret not picking him up.

So, Blitzwing and Octane: thoughts on these two? Don't have a previous version of the mold of these two but I do have Sentinel in the Astrotrain mold.

Mind you, I am saving up for Power of the Primes once it hit and the triple-changer trio weren't originally in my collecting plans...

If you dont have Prime and Megs, i would. Love borh molds. For me, I slightly prefer Megatron over Blitzwing, which is why I didnt buy Megatron but caved after getting Blitzy, but they are both fun, both good toys, the Headmaster in the jet cockpit looks great. With Octone, I am ver particular about what I am looking for in an Optimus Prime and that just wasnt it, so I give Octone the better use of (HIS OWN) mold. I want the Legends Scourge, but that aint happening.

These are I think the best neo G1 takes on the figures that we will get for a while, so I would pull that trigger if you think at all that you will be sad to miss out.

Whew, finally got the clones (North side of the Twin Cities in MN). Just need Grotusque and my TR set will be complete...

I hope Grotesque gets announced for new orders soon.Wingspan has been great -- what team doesn't need a big data-guy?

bodrock wrote:I hope Grotesque gets announced for new orders soon.

I just hope they don't do something stupid like make it TRU in stores only on Black Friday.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

bodrock wrote:I hope Grotesque gets announced for new orders soon.

I just hope they don't do something stupid like make it TRU in stores only on Black Friday.

You could definitely count me out on that!

I believe PotP was supposed to be available on Black Friday at Target -- I'm glad there was not an official release date preventing us from buying with the DPCI.

If only we knew if wave5 would ever be available aplenty at Target....

Skritz wrote:With sales at TRU (and a really stocked Transformers rack) I've been thinking of grabbing Blitzwing and Octane. Are they worth it? Kinda need Astrotrain to complete the trio, so I guess finding a place which still sale him would be another factor to consider. This is a bit harder than it look because I initially passed up on Astrotrain when he was shelfwarming but now that Octane and Blitzwing are the one clogging up the store I regret not picking him up.

So, Blitzwing and Octane: thoughts on these two? Don't have a previous version of the mold of these two but I do have Sentinel in the Astrotrain mold.

Mind you, I am saving up for Power of the Primes once it hit and the triple-changer trio weren't originally in my collecting plans...

Blitzwing is just a Megatron with a sword. Octane has a lot going on with it, including fixing a lot of the issues that people had with Optimus Prime

Fiddle around with Sixshot and Wingspan.

Tweak the colors on Wingspan and he and Pounce could be minions for Sixshot.

I'm impressed with Wingspan's wingspan.

Hate the jet mode on Sixshot - you can't really have a Titan Master pilot so my son and I came up with a jet mode from the car mode.

I haven't had much free time to write big posts about how I feel about certain toys in a while. And I really want to write one about TR Arcee. Now I am very grateful to have this toy since internationally speaking, this is a very limited release and its fun to have a new titan master (however odd he is done) and to get a toy with new molding we wont find anywhere.

That being said, I think this toy is very flawed, at a very very deep level.

It being a retool of Blurr doesnt rub me the right way simply because this is now the 4th toy which uses the same Blurr body with some changes to make it look different in both modes. When it was just redecos with a new head, no one was kidding eachother, we knew exactly what they were. They were place holder, homages, something fun for those who wanted it but nothing essential. Its not like T30 deadwinwg replaces G2 Dreadwing or how Generations / GDO Wheelie is really what we are getting for Wheelie. They are extras, fun things that exist. But this reuse of Blurr is scary. Turning it into 4 different alt modes with robot modes that are distinctive from oneanother by just swapping some parts portrays a bleak outlook on the future. Like we could get a good enough version of any cybertronian plane, car or boat by simply reusing the same mold over and over again. It wont look bad in robot mode, but it will be the same thing, over and over again. So thats one part of it, and it works into the next part.

By reusing the same engineering we end up with an Arcee that looks the part in both modes. And I once said that all I needed was a sleek vehicle mode, a sleek robot mode and a satisfying transformation. Arcee fits the bill on all of those (granted the transformation is assessed independently of it being something I saw before, since it is one of the standout transformations from the Titans return). But her process of conversion doesnt feel right.

See, they give her these iconic G1 details like those shoulder pads, which should be the front of the vehicle, but those parts are fake vehicle kibble. They arent the front of the vehicle and worse off, they dont resemble the front of the actual vehicle this toy transforms into. Its kind of like having Optimus be an airplane and having a very pronounced truck windshield on his chest when he turns into robot mode. This is how that mold reusing is scary, we lose some essential components that have been the basis of this brand and its toys. Her second most prominant visible alt mode kibble is fake, and just there for decoration, simply because it isnt using a mold made to get the desired effect using real parts. Simply said, she doesnt get to earn that look.

Oh and I dont think the alt mode looks great. The retooling means she has the fake shoulder alt mode kibble seen on the side of the alt mode and the front looks like a bottle nosed dolphin rather than the fun lollypop/popcycle front the car usually has.

So there you go, thats my rant on Arcee and why I much preffer the Generations version. We get to have a toy resembling the iconic look which transforms the way it should and uses her robot and alt mode kibble properly in both modes (ie, her hips in car mode and the car front on her shoulder s).

william-james88 wrote:I haven't had much free time to write big posts about how I feel about certain toys in a while. And I really want to write one about TR Arcee. Now I am very grateful to have this toy since internationally speaking, this is a very limited release and its fun to have a new titan master (however odd he is done) and to get a toy with new molding we wont find anywhere.

That being said, I think this toy is very flawed, at a very very deep level.

It being a retool of Blurr doesnt rub me the right way simply because this is now the 4th toy which uses the same Blurr body with some changes to make it look different in both modes. When it was just redecos with a new head, no one was kidding eachother, we knew exactly what they were. They were place holder, homages, something fun for those who wanted it but nothing essential. Its not like T30 deadwinwg replaces G2 Dreadwing or how Generations / GDO Wheelie is really what we are getting for Wheelie. They are extras, fun things that exist. But this reuse of Blurr is scary. Turning it into 4 different alt modes with robot modes that are distinctive from oneanother by just swapping some parts portrays a bleak outlook on the future. Like we could get a good enough version of any cybertronian plane, car or boat by simply reusing the same mold over and over again. It wont look bad in robot mode, but it will be the same thing, over and over again. So thats one part of it, and it works into the next part.

By reusing the same engineering we end up with an Arcee that looks the part in both modes. And I once said that all I needed was a sleek vehicle mode, a sleek robot mode and a satisfying transformation. Arcee fits the bill on all of those (granted the transformation is assessed independently of it being something I saw before, since it is one of the standout transformations from the Titans return). But her process of conversion doesnt feel right.

See, they give her these iconic G1 details like those shoulder pads, which should be the front of the vehicle, but those parts are fake vehicle kibble. They arent the front of the vehicle and worse off, they dont resemble the front of the actual vehicle this toy transforms into. Its kind of like having Optimus be an airplane and having a very pronounced truck windshield on his chest when he turns into robot mode. This is how that mold reusing is scary, we lose some essential components that have been the basis of this brand and its toys. Her second most prominant visible alt mode kibble is fake, and just there for decoration, simply because it isnt using a mold made to get the desired effect using real parts. Simply said, she doesnt get to earn that look.

Oh and I dont think the alt mode looks great. The retooling means she has the fake shoulder alt mode kibble seen on the side of the alt mode and the front looks like a bottle nosed dolphin rather than the fun lollypop/popcycle front the car usually has.

So there you go, thats my rant on Arcee and why I much preffer the Generations version. We get to have a toy resembling the iconic look which transforms the way it should and uses her robot and alt mode kibble properly in both modes (ie, her hips in car mode and the car front on her shoulder s).

I have tobagree withbyouvon all counts. For me, TR Arcee is the better toy
Since the limbs arent as frail thin which makesbthe gun handles stickbup too much, especially for forarm mountS, and what kibble this has does not almost dwarf the main body. But absolutely, the Generations Arcee is a MUCH better Arcee. Brainstorm has enough different stuff to make him different than Blurr. Its tight, but it works for me. I dont have Nautica, bit I wasnt sold on that Altmode. With Arcee, its a different car clearly, much like the CW giys were reshelled into different cars, but it doesnt have the right profile for a G1 Arcee and it doesnt. Really match the low slung, sleek Hot Rod. O actually ended up jead swapping Leinad and Magnus, I simply could not keep Arcee's head jammed in with the Leinad head. Tbat odd slope is not conducive to a plug

From the Facebook page of Emiliano Santalucia, the toy designer for many figures in the Titans Return line including Wolfwire, we have more concept sketches of one of those toys - namely, Leader Class Soundwave! While it's not exactly clear where these sketches fall in the range from 'functional toy concept' (like those for Titans Return Skullsmasher) to simply ideas uninhibited by reality like we saw from Alpha Trion's concept art, it seems as though these designs fall somewhere in the middle, where physical design is considered but isn't totally binding.

The images show a few interesting differences from the final toy, including: an animation-accurate red visor rather than the toy-accurate yellow on the final Hasbro product; the classic blue-and-black chest panel instead of the eventual clear plastic; a much longer shoulder cannon (with an appearance that suggests a possible composite weapon); and more classic shoulder detailing than we ended up with, along with several other small details. On top of that, the accompanying text posts from Santalucia reveal that the sketches were "based on Blaster from the same line" (whether that means the designs were done concurrently or Titans Return Soundwave's design was actually tweaked from Blaster's remains up for debate), and that the figure's altmode was in fact intended to be a soundbar.

Check out the concept images and accompanying posts below, view the Leader Soundwave they ended up becoming in our gallery of the toy, and as always share your thoughts in the Energon Pub!

I forgot I had never posted my sketches for the Titans Return Soundwave! Created in collaboration with Hasbro design team and based on the Blaster figure from the same line

Soundwave alt mode! It was supposed to be a soundbar, but not many got it

I always wished Soundwave and Blaster were Voyagers; they don't always get enough attention in the Generations lines and some figures seem too big or small.

I absolutely love this artwork! It almost looks like what Soundwave could have looked like in Transformers: Energon.

Skritz wrote:With sales at TRU (and a really stocked Transformers rack) I've been thinking of grabbing Blitzwing and Octane. Are they worth it? Kinda need Astrotrain to complete the trio, so I guess finding a place which still sale him would be another factor to consider. This is a bit harder than it look because I initially passed up on Astrotrain when he was shelfwarming but now that Octane and Blitzwing are the one clogging up the store I regret not picking him up.

So, Blitzwing and Octane: thoughts on these two? Don't have a previous version of the mold of these two but I do have Sentinel in the Astrotrain mold.

Mind you, I am saving up for Power of the Primes once it hit and the triple-changer trio weren't originally in my collecting plans...

I'm not sure if you are still undecided, but I did see a couple Astrotrains at Target this weekend, so he might not be as hard to find.

This is something we don't see very often! @JesseWittenrich on Twitter reports having received Titan Master Ramhorn from a pre-order at Entertainment Earth, and has noted a surprising running change to the figure. Running changes are often small changes to details or fixes for minor issues, but in this case, no less has changed than the very base plastic color of the toy!

Jesse shares an image comparing this new Ramhorn to a copy he'd acquired earlier this year, showing that the browns are very noticeably different between the two versions. The previous version's brown is lighter and has more of an orange hue, while the presumed variant has a much darker and richer base color - this applies to all brown plastic on the toy, both the rhino-vehicle and the Titan Master figure itself. Even more strangely, neither shade of brown appears to match either the G1 cartoon model or the G1 toy perfectly, the new brown even less so than the old; a running change for more G1-accurate coloring seems unlikely as far as reasoning goes.

It's still unknown at the moment why this running change to the figure exists or what its distribution situation is. Other Twitter users report receiving the original Ramhorn variant in orders of an entire Titan Master case (also from Entertainment Earth) earlier in the year, while Jesse's copy came from the listing for a single Ramhorn figure. For the time being, check out the comparison image below, let us know what you think in the Energon Pub forums, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com for any further updates on this strange occurrence!

Entertainment Earth Ramhorn (on card) vs Ramhorn purchased back in July (loose). The brown is quite noticeably different.

Odd, Ramhorn didn't really need any changing... Would it have something to do with the upcoming Amhorn drone included with Legends Perceptor?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Odd, Ramhorn didn't really need any changing... Would it have something to do with the upcoming Amhorn drone included with Legends Perceptor?

I'm not sure, but it doesn't seem like there's any direct connection. LG Ramhorn('s drone) has a different brown again - much closer to the cartoon, and probably the toy, than either of these in fact - so it seems unlikely to me that there's any causation here.

Always possible I suppose, and it is pretty much the best idea we have to go on for now. Very odd.

Okay, so now I'm confused. I also have mine on preorder and my account says it isn't shipping until January 2018 (so much for it being a stocking stuffer).

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Okay, so now I'm confused. I also have mine on preorder and my account says it isn't shipping until January 2018 (so much for it being a stocking stuffer).

Same thing happened to me. The order status now says backorder, so I think they took more preorders than they actually received, and we now have to wait for a restock that may or may not come.

So I'm messing around with Krok and it occurred to me that he really has a ton of paint on him. It's like Hasbro thought being a repaint of Skullsmasher wasn't enough so they went all out on the paint job. I think the only purple that isn't painted is his elbows, knees, the crocodile neck and the joint that connects it to Krok's back (plus the Titan Master). That's pretty crazy, especially when you consider they painted the inside of the tail for no practical reason. They also went to the trouble of matching the front and back legs when they could have easily simplified the back legs. He does lack tampos, but I don't consider those a necessity. Overall I'm really impressed by the end result and glad to have him.

Now I just need to find Quake...

Emerje

Maybe the color shouldnt matter because it actually homages concept art for an unreleased Japanese headmaster. They shouldnt have even called him Ramhorn. Trying to kill two birds with one stone was the cheap way out.

Rated X wrote:Maybe the color shouldnt matter because it actually homages concept art for an unreleased Japanese headmaster. They shouldnt have even called him Ramhorn. Trying to kill two birds with one stone was the cheap way out.

Only the head homages the rhino Headmaster. The rhino vehicle itself is still very much Ramhorn's rhino mode design.