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Kurona wrote:

It's incredible how much better TR Hot Rod looks than Classics. It's not even funny.

I have to agree with you. I never liked the look of the classics one, his head looks too small, the chest is too fat and the arms just look wrong. The TR one is so much sleeker

Kurona wrote:

It's incredible how much better TR Hot Rod looks than Classics. It's not even funny.

If you're trying to say that Classics Rodimus looks a little dated next to his Titans Returns counterpart, then we agree. The term "better" is subjective though, as I much prefer the classics version (I do have the Protector armour for him!) over this newer interation

I'd say they both suffer from ginormous shoulders that only serve to obscure the spoiler from view, with the Classics one only suffering this much less than the TR version, while the TR one has nicer legs than the Classics version.

Meanwhile, Breakaway, meet Breakaway:

Saw this on twitter

I Bet this is going to be Sixshot's Official Gun Mode in version ( i dig this mode therefore the Submarine mode in version will be replaced)

Sixshot in The Headmasters is.... well think of that.... He said he'll come back when Daniel Witwicky's older.
I think Daniel became friends with the in the Episode "My Friend Sixshot!" and also "Battle on the Asteroid"
Perhaps he won't be an enemy.

Sabrblade wrote:I'd say they both suffer from ginormous shoulders that only serve to obscure the spoiler from view, with the Classics one only suffering this much less than the TR version, while the TR one has nicer legs than the Classics version.

Meanwhile, Breakaway, meet Breakaway:

I got the 2007 Breakaway in the spring, and I do like him. I really am not a fan of Getaway as a character, so I'm inclined to keep my other one as is on the shelf

Kurona wrote:

It's incredible how much better TR Hot Rod looks than Classics. It's not even funny.

and it's incredible how much better Masterpiece Hot Rod looks then the crappy Titans Return Hot Rod

It's disappointing how cacky all Hot Rod(imus)s look when you consider the potential.

Mr O wrote:It's disappointing how cacky all Hot Rod(imus)s look when you consider the potential.

Tis what happens when the guy's most iconic design A) looks more like a costumed human than a robot that turns into a car, and B) was designed for animation before it was adapted into toy form (unlike the 1984-1985 cast being toy designs before animation models).

Albatross250 wrote:Saw this on twitter

I Bet this is going to be Sixshot's Official Gun Mode in version ( i dig this mode therefore the Submarine mode in version will be replaced)

Sixshot in The Headmasters is.... well think of that.... He said he'll come back when Daniel Witwicky's older.
I think Daniel became friends with the in the Episode "My Friend Sixshot!" and also "Battle on the Asteroid"
Perhaps he won't be an enemy.

Right on with the gun mode. I knew it was there it's just America doesn't wanna promote guns on the packaging for the same reasons as megatron. We'll different but same.

Oh yea that's a memory I thought I'd never remember That was in the Japanese series Headmasters. I actually own the series from Shout Factory. It's a little slow starting but damn good once it's going

Sabrblade wrote:

Mr O wrote:It's disappointing how cacky all Hot Rod(imus)s look when you consider the potential.

Tis what happens when the guy's most iconic design A) looks more like a costumed human than a robot that turns into a car, and B) was designed for animation before it was adapted into toy form (unlike the 1984-1985 cast being toy designs before animation models).

I think your point A) is the very problem I couldn't pin down when I saw the first MP (09?). Too human somehow.

Sabrblade wrote:

Mr O wrote:It's disappointing how cacky all Hot Rod(imus)s look when you consider the potential.

Tis what happens when the guy's most iconic design A) looks more like a costumed human than a robot that turns into a car, and B) was designed for animation before it was adapted into toy form (unlike the 1984-1985 cast being toy designs before animation models).

they can easily work around that now a days that's not an excuse. Here I am buying the figure maybe in hand it will be fun or something

The original MP Rodimus looks pretty accurate to Hotrod in both modes - it just is unfortunate that you need to attack it with a screw driver to replace the knees and the like that have a tendency to explode on you.

I'd actually be super happy with a downscale of the Original MP (with some slight fixes) much more so than the newer one - the newer one is OK however I'm just not a fan of how his chest looks.

The Titans Returns One looks like the sort of toy that might shine more in another colour scheme. It's a bit bright at the moment.

I don't dislike the Classics Mould despite it's quirks - but I can't disagree that it's looking a bit dated now - but that is true of many of the 2000's designs. Some still hold up like Galxy Force BackGuird (Cybertron Defense Scattershot) some don't ; Like Cybertron Red Alert.

I still remain fond of some toys from that era though even if they lack the odd swivel or stand a bit funny.

CdogCdog4 wrote:

Albatross250 wrote:Saw this on twitter

I Bet this is going to be Sixshot's Official Gun Mode in version ( i dig this mode therefore the Submarine mode in version will be replaced)

Sixshot in The Headmasters is.... well think of that.... He said he'll come back when Daniel Witwicky's older.
I think Daniel became friends with the in the Episode "My Friend Sixshot!" and also "Battle on the Asteroid"
Perhaps he won't be an enemy.

Right on with the gun mode. I knew it was there it's just America doesn't wanna promote guns on the packaging for the same reasons as megatron .

That made me laughed alot hahaha

Re sixshot, can't wait, he looks awesome and he was always one of those that I recall wanting but never saw in the shops as a kid, did end up with quickswitch tho.

Re hot rod, I was perfectly content with the generations edition, not too sure bou the new TR one. Thing is, like many g1 characters he differed greatly in proportions and at times general aesthetic across the media. The generations toy reminds me of the g1 box art version, TR reminds me of the g1 universe bio rendition, MP reminds me of the movie edition. MP hot rod is very very good, my main gripe is the chrome that's already fading off, and the arm hinges used to transform him feel very delicate.

Worst edition I own is the recent CW legends reprint of black jack. Got him purposely to decorate metroplex, but damn he's an awful little figure!

frogbat wrote:Worst edition I own is the recent CW legends reprint of black jack. Got him purposely to decorate Metroplex, but damn he's an awful little figure!

Why ?

Is your's especially floppy or do you not like that the wing does not store on his back ?

I like him a lot both the original and the KO Oversize version both.

I've been wanting to pick up the Rodimus retool of Blackjack - I like having a small Legends collection, I mostly have Legends 'cons, IDW Rodimus is my favourite character in the franchise and it's really cool how this ends up harkening back to the Rodimus Micromaster - so I have been wondering if it's actually any good.

RAR wrote:

frogbat wrote:Worst edition I own is the recent CW legends reprint of black jack. Got him purposely to decorate Metroplex, but damn he's an awful little figure!

Why ?

Is your's especially floppy or do you not like that the wing does not store on his back ?

I like him a lot both the original and the KO Oversize version both.

If I may, the only reason I got that Rodimus was because I bought the entire Optimus Maximus team together from an ebay seller for a great price. I keep him in alt mode because his robot mode just doesn't look like Rodimus. I don't feel Rodimus when I look at him in robot mode, which is why I don't like him that much.

Frogbat may have a completely different reason, but mine is the robot mode doesn't say Rodimus

Just got TR Soundwave. Very impressed. For some reason, his size compared to other CHUG figures doesn't bother me like it did with the CW Seekers and Megatron.

Kurona wrote:I've been wanting to pick up the Rodimus retool of Blackjack - I like having a small Legends collection, I mostly have Legends 'cons, IDW Rodimus is my favourite character in the franchise and it's really cool how this ends up harkening back to the Rodimus Micromaster - so I have been wondering if it's actually any good.

The mold itself is great. One of the best new car tfs in a while. Really smart and hghly poseable. I liked it so much part of the appeal of getting the G2 menasor set the only G2 set I have) was because I would have that mold again in a nice new deco. I never did get the Hot Rod version though and the reason why is because the robot mode is all wrong. It works as an homage to the micromaster (as you can see below) but the lack of the spoiler in the back doesnt really scream hot rod to me. And I dont really know where ot put him in my collection. As a Scout, he would fit more as a commander class figure in cyberverse but I find that too big for him.

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:I've been wanting to pick up the Rodimus retool of Blackjack - I like having a small Legends collection, I mostly have Legends 'cons, IDW Rodimus is my favourite character in the franchise and it's really cool how this ends up harkening back to the Rodimus Micromaster - so I have been wondering if it's actually any good.

The mold itself is great. One of the best new car tfs in a while. Really smart and hghly poseable. I liked it so much part of the appeal of getting the G2 menasor set the only G2 set I have) was because I would have that mold again in a nice new deco. I never did get the Hot Rod version though and the reason why is because the robot mode is all wrong. It works as an homage to the micromaster (as you can see below) but the lack of the spoiler in the back doesnt really scream hot rod to me. And I dont really know where ot put him in my collection. As a Scout, he would fit more as a commander class figure in cyberverse but I find that too big for him.

Yeah I can definitely get that; it doesn't have any of the visual iconography of Hot Rod/imus. They couldn't even paint silver pipes on his arms...
Still, the micromaster likewise didn't have any of the visual iconography of Hot Rod/imus either. So that's why as a smaller version I'm much more accepting of it. Would have been really cool if they engineered the axe thing to plug into the back as a spoiler though. Such a missed opportunity, especially with it being a spoiler in car mode.

I moved my reply to the Rodimus Discussion to the Combiner Wars thread ....

transformers-generations-combiner-wars-discussion-thread-p1842339.php#p1842339

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote: one of Chromedome's old friends from The Headmasters cartoon, whom Sixshot captured, tortured, and planted a bomb inside his body for a suicide mission.

Dear lord, is this a kid's show^ Sounds more like a plot point of metal gear solid.

What's worse is that the only way to stop the hypnotized Jack from completing his mission was for Chromedome to have to shoot him before the bomb could go off and blow up its target (the bomb eventually went off anyway after Jack was shot, just sooner than it would have had Chromedome not shot him, which prevented the bomb from destroying its target).

Things like this have been making me get super excited about Sixshot lately. I've been re-watching Headmasters and there are a LOT of things that remind me more of TF:TM (things/people/planets dying/being destroyed) compared to Sunbow S1/2/3. It works! Sixshot and Galvatron forever!!

I really wanna see what Takara is gonna do with this figure..

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

RAR wrote:

frogbat wrote:Worst edition I own is the recent CW legends reprint of black jack. Got him purposely to decorate Metroplex, but damn he's an awful little figure!

Why ?

Is your's especially floppy or do you not like that the wing does not store on his back ?

I like him a lot both the original and the KO Oversize version both.

If I may, the only reason I got that Rodimus was because I bought the entire Optimus Maximus team together from an ebay seller for a great price. I keep him in alt mode because his robot mode just doesn't look like Rodimus. I don't feel Rodimus when I look at him in robot mode, which is why I don't like him that much.

Frogbat may have a completely different reason, but mine is the robot mode doesn't say Rodimus

My issue is partly the robot mode being not much of a homage, they could've figured a way to add the spoiler. His car mode is ok and serves my purpose shooting our from metropkex's chest. I'm also biased against him cos mine had QC issues which, when mixed with some of my own stupidity led to a figure that wouldn't transform properly.

itscramtastic wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote: one of Chromedome's old friends from The Headmasters cartoon, whom Sixshot captured, tortured, and planted a bomb inside his body for a suicide mission.

Dear lord, is this a kid's show^ Sounds more like a plot point of metal gear solid.

What's worse is that the only way to stop the hypnotized Jack from completing his mission was for Chromedome to have to shoot him before the bomb could go off and blow up its target (the bomb eventually went off anyway after Jack was shot, just sooner than it would have had Chromedome not shot him, which prevented the bomb from destroying its target).

Things like this have been making me get super excited about Sixshot lately. I've been re-watching Headmasters and there are a LOT of things that remind me more of TF:TM (things/people/planets dying/being destroyed) compared to Sunbow S1/2/3. It works! Sixshot and Galvatron forever!!

I really wanna see what Takara is gonna do with this figure..

Simple, they want to return the Awesome so called "Wingwolf Mode". And there's this ...
(Well he isn't gonna die either because Alpha Trion gave him some body and a HAMMER (from Animated and Prime universe) . The Gun mode will change however (replacing the submarine photo with a gun) (from the image of his Alternate Gun Mode i posted yesterday)
There's a chance that Shadowmaru coming...(Brave Police J-Decker) possibly the redeco/retooling of sixshot

Albatross250 wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote: one of Chromedome's old friends from The Headmasters cartoon, whom Sixshot captured, tortured, and planted a bomb inside his body for a suicide mission.

Dear lord, is this a kid's show^ Sounds more like a plot point of metal gear solid.

What's worse is that the only way to stop the hypnotized Jack from completing his mission was for Chromedome to have to shoot him before the bomb could go off and blow up its target (the bomb eventually went off anyway after Jack was shot, just sooner than it would have had Chromedome not shot him, which prevented the bomb from destroying its target).

Things like this have been making me get super excited about Sixshot lately. I've been re-watching Headmasters and there are a LOT of things that remind me more of TF:TM (things/people/planets dying/being destroyed) compared to Sunbow S1/2/3. It works! Sixshot and Galvatron forever!!

I really wanna see what Takara is gonna do with this figure..

Simple, they want to return the Awesome so called "Wingwolf Mode". And there's this ...
(Well he isn't gonna die either because Alpha Trion gave him some body and a HAMMER (from Animated and Prime universe) . The Gun mode will change however (replacing the submarine photo with a gun) (from the image of his Alternate Gun Mode i posted yesterday)
There's a chance that Shadowmaru coming...(Brave Police J-Decker) possibly the redeco/retooling of sixshot

Don't forget this too!