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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron 2 confired!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:07 am
by Sabrblade
Aside from the obvious when/what/who/etc. questions, I'm curious as to what sort of plot storyline this game will involve. The first game ended on them preparing to leave Cybertron. The Prime comic and cartoon are supposed to follow afterward. So, maybe this game has them coming back to Cybertron after the Earth conflict calms down?

Though, if the characters in the first game who later appear in the show suddenly revert back to their first-game bodies, there better be some explanation given. I don't think we'll want another case of "Exodus conflicts with WFC" again.

Or maybe it's some kind of side story set within the first game's events or in-between episode seasons.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron 2 confired!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:20 am
by Neurie
Or maybe War For Cybertron is in itself its own continuity just like all the other Transformers games?

I dont see why people get so fixated about conituity some times in what is essentially one big toy advertisement, its almost as bad as talking to Trekkie some times(or are the Trekkers nowadays?).

The only francise I can think of that even comes close to having a unified coninuity is Serinty(firefly) or Babylon 5.

Enjoy the games for what they are. Ive played Transformers Armada, Transformers Tataki, ROM version Beast wars 2 beat em up on game boy, Transformers war for cybertron on ps3, TF animated on DS, War for cybertron autobots on DS and the ROM version of the transformers NES game and the TF bay movie games and to be honest even with WFC it has huge Gen 1 continuity problems with its story, character apperances, characterisation, etc.

Just enjoy them for what they are, alittle esacpism.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron 2 confired!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:27 am
by sideswipe360
Awesome! I love WFC and I hope that WFC2 will be just as good, if not better.

And hopefully this also means we get more WFC figs!

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron 2 confired!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:47 am
by Sabrblade
Neurie wrote:Or maybe War For Cybertron is in itself its own continuity just like all the other Transformers games?
But it ain't like all the other games. War for Cybertron serves as the foundation for Hasbro's new "aligned continuity". The Exodus novel expands on its story, and the Prime cartoon continues it. We can't change what is confirmed as fact.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron 2 confired!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:57 am
by WarzoneBeta
*crying tears of joy* YES PLEASE!!!!

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron 2 confired!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:10 am
by Heavy B
YEAH. now we are talkin

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron 2 confired!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:44 am
by Rated X
Does this mean more weird figures ???

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron 2 confired!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:14 am
by whacko
Good, hopefully this will give whatever game studio ends up making the game a chance to fix all of the glaring technical problems that plagued the first War for Cybertron.

I wanted so bad to enjoy War for Cybertron and I did to some extent, but the horrible bugs, network and online gaming issues, etc just made me quit the game in frustration. There was so much potential in that game that the final product was never more than a disappointment.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron 2 confired!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:16 am
by Shadowman
Galvatrondestroyer wrote:personally i wonder where the story will go since wfc pretty much ran directly into the 1st g1 episode


WfC isn't part of G1. Jetfire and Trypticon could tell you that.

Neo Crusader wrote:Well, their not getting my money unless online multiplayer improves considerably. I was in awe of the graphics, storyline and new character designs in WfC, but multiplayer was/is terrible


This. They need to fix a lot of stuff if they want my $60 this time.

Also, I'm actually kind of surprised there's a sequel. Last we heard, which was way back in, what, July? The game only sold a measly 200,000 copies. Usually when a game does that poorly, they don't give it a sequel. Which is why we still haven't seen Psychonauts 2.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron 2 confired!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:31 am
by SlyTF1
Sabrblade wrote:Aside from the obvious when/what/who/etc. questions, I'm curious as to what sort of plot storyline this game will involve. The first game ended on them preparing to leave Cybertron. The Prime comic and cartoon are supposed to follow afterward. So, maybe this game has them coming back to Cybertron after the Earth conflict calms down?

Though, if the characters in the first game who later appear in the show suddenly revert back to their first-game bodies, there better be some explanation given. I don't think we'll want another case of "Exodus conflicts with WFC" again.

Or maybe it's some kind of side story set within the first game's events or in-between episode seasons.


I hope it has somthing to do with their very last days on Cybertron. I hope you get to see some actual Cybertronian cities and part of their culture. In WFC there was nothing. Just caves and the center of the planet. I hope it has somthing to do with Decepticon depression and liberating the remaining Cybertronians from it. Trying to get them to flee the planet before somthing happens.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron 2 confired!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:38 am
by First-Aid
WFC 2 is awesome news, but honestly I'm more interested in the MMO mentioned. I'm assuming this is the Asian MMO we've heard about. I would be pleased if they used the Asian release to work out the bugs in a way similar to what they did with Aion- which, by the time it reached American and European shores, was a very smooth, polished and detailed game with nearly infinite character customization. If this is the real deal and it's not just a rumor, my WoW account may disappear :x

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron 2 confired!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:44 am
by Carnivius_Prime
Hopefully this one will be actually somewhat good. The first one was terrible. Bad graphics and ultra tedious gameplay (especially bosses like Trypticon and Omega Supreme). Sold it within the week I bought it. I gave it a fair chance and finished the story mode but didn't get one bit of enjoyment from it at all. Yet I do with the movie games for some reason (not saying they're great but something was just all the more fun about them).

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron 2 confired!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:05 pm
by ROBOBOT
This is Great :D WFC was great and I found the 2 First movie games awesome! Bring on WFC 2 and TF DOTM games please :BOT: :grin:

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron 2 confired!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:10 pm
by Shadowman
I find the whole MMO thing pretty dubious. IGN only mentions it in passing and I can't find any recent news on it from any other gaming news site. Just forums posts (The news equivalent of "I know a guy who knows a guy") and older news posts to the even-sketchier "announcement" from August. Then there's the fact that despite being an American/Japanese property, there's no confirmation that it will be released in Japan or America.

Show me a press release from either Hasbro or Takara, then we'll talk. Otherwise, NetDragon, I don't believe you.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron 2 confired!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:45 pm
by Sabrblade
Shadowman wrote:I find the whole MMO thing pretty dubious. IGN only mentions it in passing and I can't find any recent news on it from any other gaming news site. Just forums posts (The news equivalent of "I know a guy who knows a guy") and older news posts to the even-sketchier "announcement" from August. Then there's the fact that despite being an American/Japanese property, there's no confirmation that it will be released in Japan or America.

Show me a press release from either Hasbro or Takara, then we'll talk. Otherwise, NetDragon, I don't believe you.
TFW2005's Coverage Of Hasbro Investor Day November 2010.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron 2 confired!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:49 pm
by Shadowman


All right, then. Now does anyone want to explain why a developer with no games to it's name is releasing a Japanese/American property in every region EXCEPT Japan and America?

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron 2 confired!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:39 pm
by Doctor McGrath
Well, guess it's time I go drop the cash on the first one.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron 2 confired!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:46 pm
by First-Aid
Shadowman wrote:


All right, then. Now does anyone want to explain why a developer with no games to it's name is releasing a Japanese/American property in every region EXCEPT Japan and America?


Just a quick note to the news mods: last time I checked, "confired" had an "m" in it... :P Might want to get that typo checked...heh heh.

As to the question, I don't know. But like I said before, the MMO Aion was released in Asia well before it was ported to the US. As such the game mechanics, graphics, and stories were well-developed and pretty much bug-free before it hit the largest media market in the world. It could also be a way to build brand name in other markets; anymore, the gaming world is the best way to build. Gamers are more likely to use the internet to spread the word. Japan and the US are pretty much a given for sales...maybe they are testing the waters elsewhere. Who knows...

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron 2 confired!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 2:38 pm
by ShardFenix
a mmo? that could awesome.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron 2 confired!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 2:42 pm
by Shadowman
First-Aid wrote:
Shadowman wrote:


All right, then. Now does anyone want to explain why a developer with no games to it's name is releasing a Japanese/American property in every region EXCEPT Japan and America?


Just a quick note to the news mods: last time I checked, "confired" had an "m" in it... :P Might want to get that typo checked...heh heh.

As to the question, I don't know. But like I said before, the MMO Aion was released in Asia well before it was ported to the US. As such the game mechanics, graphics, and stories were well-developed and pretty much bug-free before it hit the largest media market in the world. It could also be a way to build brand name in other markets; anymore, the gaming world is the best way to build. Gamers are more likely to use the internet to spread the word. Japan and the US are pretty much a given for sales...maybe they are testing the waters elsewhere. Who knows...


Aion was bug-free because NCsoft knows what they're doing when they make an MMO, it's basically all they do. It was released in Asia first because NCsoft is a Korean company, and it was their original property. This is like making a Doctor Who game and not releasing it in the UK.

And taking their time bringing a game overseas doesn't mean the overseas version would be any better for it. When Exteel was still running, (It's been shut down, in case you're wondering about the wording there) players would often mention "Ksteel" the original Korean version which actually had much, much more content than we got in the US.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron 2 confired!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 2:47 pm
by Burn
First-Aid wrote:Just a quick note to the news mods: last time I checked, "confired" had an "m" in it... :P Might want to get that typo checked...heh heh.


Just a quick not to the spelling police, the news title is correct, the forum title is wrong because of how the original poster spelt it. :P Might not want to be so quick to lay blame...heh heh.

:P

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron 2 confired!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 2:55 pm
by craggy
WFC 2 will be fine. A TF MMO won't be something we'll hear about any time soon I reckon, unless there's been a lot of work done already and for that to be, there must be an awful lot of very careful people for no leaks to have formed.That said, a TF MMO is an instant sale for me.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron 2 confired!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 4:25 pm
by Ultra Markus
Sabrblade wrote:
Neurie wrote:Or maybe War For Cybertron is in itself its own continuity just like all the other Transformers games?
But it ain't like all the other games. War for Cybertron serves as the foundation for Hasbro's new "aligned continuity". The Exodus novel expands on its story, and the Prime cartoon continues it. We can't change what is confirmed as fact.

There is no way that the prime cartoon continues the war for cybertron story
there are different character backgrounds like for example compare the prime sound wave with the WFC sound wave they are different
also how does it work when WFC looks more true to the original and Prime looks like a cross between the movie verse and animated
i think we need to double check our sources

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron 2 confired!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:52 pm
by Bouncy X
to those wondering what the story will be...

remember that during the end cut scene, Prime makes mention that he'll stay behind for a bit as most of the Autobots leave. so i'm guessing Part 2 will still take place on Cybertron, maybe it'll end with him and the "main gang" finally leaving so that the inevitable Part 3 will be earth bound.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron 2 confired!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:17 pm
by Sabrblade
Ultra Markus wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Neurie wrote:Or maybe War For Cybertron is in itself its own continuity just like all the other Transformers games?
But it ain't like all the other games. War for Cybertron serves as the foundation for Hasbro's new "aligned continuity". The Exodus novel expands on its story, and the Prime cartoon continues it. We can't change what is confirmed as fact.

There is no way that the prime cartoon continues the war for cybertron story
there are different character backgrounds like for example compare the prime sound wave with the WFC sound wave they are different
also how does it work when WFC looks more true to the original and Prime looks like a cross between the movie verse and animated
i think we need to double check our sources
One step ahead of ya.

TFW2005's SDCC 2010 Transformers Prime Panel live feed wrote:4:52 | Continuity. Present day, after "movie" type events. Autobots on earth,hiding.
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4:54 | [Comment From Guest] So, just to clarify, this is NOT set in the movie universe?
4:54 | To tell the truth,they are talking in such circles I cant tell wtf they mean. Maybe doing that on purpose.
4:55 | they definitately referenced events from movie, and that something else happened (alluding to TF3 events). Without 100% saying "ITS MOVIE".
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5:18 | One more question.
5:19 | RE: Continuity.
5:20 | IT IS NOT MOVIE VERSE
5:21 | IT IS WAR FOR CYBERTRON continuity. Something happened (whatever) between the end of that game/book, and where Prime picks up. That could be "movie style" events, or not, but we pick up after events on earth, with autobots hiding.
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/san-diego-comic-con-33/live-transformers-prime-panel--sdcc-2010-170262/