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[frogbat]

He does look awesome, love what they did with the scorpion head, really massive improvement ove the original. That and his size... I mean how could the autobots ever lose if fortress max was twice the size of his decepticon counterpart?

He’s already on order.. my only niggles are to do with the lack of a gun as has been pointed out. The g1 toy did make it seem a bit undersized, but the box artwork always made it look cool in my head. A new version would definitely have to be proportioned better. Also, the other little bits and pieces that went to make his base mode. Sure the radar dishes might be extra pieces that can be lost... but maybe some sort of lift or some levers could’ve been incorporated in the legs. The other Issue I have concerns the shoulder cannons, they look great but really hoped they’d be articulated like we saw in the cartoon. Also, there’s only 2 as opposed to the original toy’s four.

Gripes aside, can’t wait to include him in my collection, love how most of the titans turned out, with perhaps metroplex and fortress being the weakest entries, the rest have been awesome.

[o.supreme]

Scorponok looks great. I'm also so glad they didn't make him smaller like Trypticon. Also there was some early rumors he had parts sharing with Omega Supreme. Glad to know he is unique, and big enough to be Fort Max rival, undoing the error of the original Can't wait to get it

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Scorponok looks great. I'm also so glad they didn't make him smaller like Trypticon. Also there was some early rumors he had parts sharing with Omega Supreme. Glad to know he is unique, and big enough to be Fort Max rival, undoing the error of the original Can't wait to get it

You do realize that Trypticon's G1 toy was somewhat taller than Metroplex's G1 toy because it was in fact substantially bigger than Metroplex (and between that and the motor, cost almost twice as much), yes?

TR Trypticon meanwhile is the same size as T30 Metroplex. He's just shorter because being a T. Rex in robot mode means that size is distributed differently; a lot of it's in the big fat T. rex tail, for instance, plus he has a consistently thick torso (especially when you factor in his back)...

Scorponok's robot mode height is also affected by his tail (hence why he's not quite as tall as Metroplex and Fort Max), but not as much since it's not as huge as Trypticon's (Tryps' tail is the same length as his entire torso). On the upside, his height is boosted by the fact that his robot mode is humanoid rather than bestial.

[NTESHFT]

YES AND YES!!! They will be bought as soon as i see them. Now where are the aotobot clones?

[-Kanrabat-]

Yup. All of the above.
Generation Metroplex can be this tall because he's such a lean and lanky boi.
For Trypticon to be eye to eye with Metroplex, it should have TWICE the mass. That would be ridiculous.

This Scorponok is now the true rival that Fortmax deserved. Especially with the deluxe heads. But I hated my CW Fortmax so I sold him, being too much of a Metroplex clone. My ER Scorpy will fight G1 Fortmax instead.

I will buy this Scorponok but I will also buy the most likely upcoming 100$ upgrade kit. There's too many bits missing compared to the G1 original:

-- Need two more gray canons. Maybe replace all of them to make the canons posable.
-- The big gun that can split into city towers.
-- Radars and bits for the city mode. Those could combine into a bot like the deluxe "armor" guys.
-- Two proper silver "armor plates" to complete the bot mode for his legs.

Still, for those with no attachment to the G1 toy, this ER version is incredible and very complete.

[ZeroWolf]

The problem the designers had would have been to include all that stuff but have Scorp be diminished size wise and more hollow. Afterall, the designers had limits they had to adhere to, no matter what we may have wished. Still I think the compromises were worth it

[-Kanrabat-]

The problem the designers had would have been to include all that stuff but have Scorp be diminished size wise and more hollow. Afterall, the designers had limits they had to adhere to, no matter what we may have wished. Still I think the compromises were worth it

Exactly. To achieve a TRIPLE CHANGER city bot that fit the size and budget, compromises had to be made. That's why the upgrade kit will add another 100+$ to the price of the figure. Something HasTak were not allowed to do. 250$CAN is expensive as it is for a normal retail product. No stores would take on a 400$CAN toy.

Hell, E.B Games were supposed to have MP-44 as an exclusive but they never got it. Look like they don't want to have a 600$CAN toy in inventory after all.

[ZeroWolf]

I completely forgot about that EB Games exclusivity Did they ever release a statement saying they decided not to carry it?

[Emerje]

I will buy this Scorponok but I will also buy the most likely upcoming 100$ upgrade kit. There's too many bits missing compared to the G1 original:

-- Need two more gray canons. Maybe replace all of them to make the canons posable.
-- The big gun that can split into city towers.
-- Radars and bits for the city mode. Those could combine into a bot like the deluxe "armor" guys.
-- Two proper silver "armor plates" to complete the bot mode for his legs.

This stuff, plus I wish there was an optional clear face shield for some real G1 figure/Mega Zarak cartoon authenticity.

Also wish he could use his tail stinger in bot mode like the original, but not even an upgrade kit can fix that it seems.

I really do love that all the hollow spots actually serve a purpose in at least one mode and gets covered when not in use (aside from the ankles in bot mode). Nice having somewhere to put the shield in scorpion mode.

Emerje

[ZeroWolf]

Here's a question though, say that Takara decides to do a Selects Black Zarak, how would they manage the head? In the story for Masterpiece he wasn't a headmaster anymore, having wired himself into the core of the transector. I mean easiest option would just give the head units a new coat of paint (after the retool of course) but would they even need to include the Titan master?

[blackeyedprime]

I will buy this Scorponok but I will also buy the most likely upcoming 100$ upgrade kit. There's too many bits missing compared to the G1 original:

-- Need two more gray canons. Maybe replace all of them to make the canons posable.
-- The big gun that can split into city towers.
-- Radars and bits for the city mode. Those could combine into a bot like the deluxe "armor" guys.
-- Two proper silver "armor plates" to complete the bot mode for his legs.

This stuff, plus I wish there was an optional clear face shield for some real G1 figure/Mega Zarak cartoon authenticity.

Also wish he could use his tail stinger in bot mode like the original, but not even an upgrade kit can fix that it seems.

I really do love that all the hollow spots actually serve a purpose in at least one mode and gets covered when not in use (aside from the ankles in bot mode). Nice having somewhere to put the shield in scorpion mode.

Emerje

The big visor on the G1 toy may have been unsightly but it kind of needs it for cartoon accuracy in scorpion mode, so hopefully some kind of clip on attachment. For me this is one of the most disappointing titans but already ordered it... And if they release it as black zarak I'll be buying it again

[-Kanrabat-]

Here's a question though, say that Takara decides to do a Selects Black Zarak, how would they manage the head? In the story for Masterpiece he wasn't a headmaster anymore, having wired himself into the core of the transector. I mean easiest option would just give the head units a new coat of paint (after the retool of course) but would they even need to include the Titan master?

I don't think it really matter. Case in point, the whole Titan Return line.

[Emerje]

The big visor on the G1 toy may have been unsightly but it kind of needs it for cartoon accuracy in scorpion mode, so hopefully some kind of clip on attachment. For me this is one of the most disappointing titans but already ordered it... And if they release it as black zarak I'll be buying it again

He has the visor for scorpion mode, but it's purple now, they probably should have painted it white. Toyhax to the rescue I guess.

As for Black Zarak, no matter what the story was the figure still came with a Headmaster regardless. I imagine they'd just reshell the original Titan head.

I still want to see Fasttrack's spear mode, Hasbro's been keeping that secret. I wonder if any of his parts can be used to make up for any of Scorponok's missing parts like the tiny antenna/radar bits?

Emerje

[Big Grim]

Gods, I'm SO tempted. Don't really have the space but Scorponok is my favourite headmaster. Had the original as a kid for Christmas and it was a joy!

[ZeroWolf]

I will buy this Scorponok but I will also buy the most likely upcoming 100$ upgrade kit. There's too many bits missing compared to the G1 original:

-- Need two more gray canons. Maybe replace all of them to make the canons posable.
-- The big gun that can split into city towers.
-- Radars and bits for the city mode. Those could combine into a bot like the deluxe "armor" guys.
-- Two proper silver "armor plates" to complete the bot mode for his legs.

This stuff, plus I wish there was an optional clear face shield for some real G1 figure/Mega Zarak cartoon authenticity.

Also wish he could use his tail stinger in bot mode like the original, but not even an upgrade kit can fix that it seems.

I really do love that all the hollow spots actually serve a purpose in at least one mode and gets covered when not in use (aside from the ankles in bot mode). Nice having somewhere to put the shield in scorpion mode.

Emerje

The big visor on the G1 toy may have been unsightly but it kind of needs it for cartoon accuracy in scorpion mode, so hopefully some kind of clip on attachment. For me this is one of the most disappointing titans but already ordered it... And if they release it as black zarak I'll be buying it again

Even more disappointing then TR Fortress Maximus? How so? I think they did a really good job within the limits they had to work with.

Im still waiting to see the spear mode as well.

As for the Black Zarak you coming with a headmaster, that's because I completely forgot that it came with one

[joevill]

Wow! He's perfect!

[william-james88]

Hell, E.B Games were supposed to have MP-44 as an exclusive but they never got it. Look like they don't want to have a 600$CAN toy in inventory after all.

They dont carrry them in stores, just online. Are you saying those who preordered him on the website never got him?

[blackeyedprime]

I will buy this Scorponok but I will also buy the most likely upcoming 100$ upgrade kit. There's too many bits missing compared to the G1 original:

-- Need two more gray canons. Maybe replace all of them to make the canons posable.
-- The big gun that can split into city towers.
-- Radars and bits for the city mode. Those could combine into a bot like the deluxe "armor" guys.
-- Two proper silver "armor plates" to complete the bot mode for his legs.

This stuff, plus I wish there was an optional clear face shield for some real G1 figure/Mega Zarak cartoon authenticity.

Also wish he could use his tail stinger in bot mode like the original, but not even an upgrade kit can fix that it seems.

I really do love that all the hollow spots actually serve a purpose in at least one mode and gets covered when not in use (aside from the ankles in bot mode). Nice having somewhere to put the shield in scorpion mode.

Emerje

The big visor on the G1 toy may have been unsightly but it kind of needs it for cartoon accuracy in scorpion mode, so hopefully some kind of clip on attachment. For me this is one of the most disappointing titans but already ordered it... And if they release it as black zarak I'll be buying it again

Even more disappointing then TR Fortress Maximus? How so? I think they did a really good job within the limits they had to work with.

Im still waiting to see the spear mode as well.

As for the Black Zarak you coming with a headmaster, that's because I completely forgot that it came with one

TR Fort max probably wasn't as dissapointing because I liked Scorponoks design/character more. Plus I don't have an original Fort max (I have a rid brave max that Takara released with out most of Fort maxs accessories, so it lessened the blow of getting tr Fort max with out most of Fort maxs accessories). Fort maxs lack of elevator, foot storage, lack of guns and having to fan mode base was the let downs. It did have electronics though so it marked some improvements over the original and he looks complete enough in robot mode with out needing upgrades.

Scorponok feels like it needs a lot of add ons to make it on par with the original toy and needs upgrades to complete nearly every one of its modes. I'd also like some knee pads or something for the deluxe head robot mode legs but I'm picky

[DMSL]

I will be getting the seekers, but i do wish Thundercracker was a little less baby blue.

[-Kanrabat-]

Hell, E.B Games were supposed to have MP-44 as an exclusive but they never got it. Look like they don't want to have a 600$CAN toy in inventory after all.

They dont carrry them in stores, just online. Are you saying those who preordered him on the website never got him?

Just online?
I never checked.

But if there is Canadians who got their MP-44 via EB Games, they don't shout it out over here.

[o.supreme]

:roll: You do realize that Trypticon's G1 toy was somewhat taller than Metroplex's G1 toy because it was in fact substantially bigger than Metroplex (and between that and the motor, cost almost twice as much), yes?

No need to lecture, I was there. Were you? Without the electronics, If Hasbro had scaled up TR Trypticon slightly to be almost the same size as T30 Metroplex (as ER Scorponok is to Fort Max), they could have easily done it for around the $200 price point in 2017

TR Trypticon meanwhile is the same size as T30 Metroplex. He's just shorter because being a T. Rex in robot mode means that size is distributed differently; a lot of it's in the big fat T. rex tail, for instance, plus he has a consistently thick torso (especially when you factor in his back)...

So he's short and fat, we all know that...Your Point?

Scorponok's robot mode height is also affected by his tail (hence why he's not quite as tall as Metroplex and Fort Max), but not as much since it's not as huge as Trypticon's (Tryps' tail is the same length as his entire torso). On the upside, his height is boosted by the fact that his robot mode is humanoid rather than bestial.

And my point is still valid. I'm not saying Trypticon is an awful toy, never did, it just didn't meet my expectations, and they are still valid today, as they were 3 years ago when it came out. The argument was never settled, never will be until it is rectified.

It took 33 years for Hasbro to finally rectify the disparity between the original Scorponok and Fort Max. I say Bravo, and let's celebrate that! I'm not looking for an immediate fix with Trypticon, it is what it is, but I can still call it a disappointment if I wish.

[ZeroWolf]

I thought Titans didn't go for $200? Given his dimensions, you might be luckier in the next Metroplex being smaller like his G1 self

[o.supreme]

I thought Titans didn't go for $200? Given his dimensions, you might be luckier in the next Metroplex being smaller like his G1 self

Not yet but considering Metroplex started out at $125 in 2013, and now they are up to $160, give it a few years. Of course by then to make a proper Trypticon it would cost much more, which is why I'm in no hurry for Hasbro to remake any recently released Titans, just keep going with new ones.

[no-one]

I thought Titans didn't go for $200? Given his dimensions, you might be luckier in the next Metroplex being smaller like his G1 self

Typically they go for around $50

I missed the first Metroplex and would love to see a re-release or a new version, but they can wait a few more years until they make it back around. The T30 was pretty G1-y to begin with even if it was modeled after the aligned version in FoC. They both are made of big blocks and have a wasp thin waist. Thirty-six twenty-four thirty-six. Haha, only if he's 24" and Titan class!

[Rodimus Prime]

I also think it's time for an update on Metroplex. The first one had the wow factor of being a giant Transformer, but left some to be desired. I think Hasbro should take a few cues from Maketoys Utopia and make the new Plex a bit shorter and bulkier, so he scales a bit better with Tryppy, since it's a fat chance we'll see him be redone any time soon. And I think Trypticon is just fine the way he is, it's Metroplex who has the problems.