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[SkyFire Prime]

...yeah, this list kind of reads as a grab bag of sure bets, figures from other leaks, and fan vote guys thrown in for padding. There are a handful of things here I would LIKE to see, and I could see many of them happening, but not because this is a legit leak, regardless of how Very big it is.

It does make me wonder though, if we are to get Blaster and/or Megatron, what will they turn into? They still can't/won't do a gun Megatron, and we just got a G1 Tank Megatron that was close enough to an Earth mode that I don't know they can justify another one like they did Trailer OP. I also can't see them making Blaster a boombox when the Soundwave he would presumably be opposing turns into a Space brick dropship/lamppost.

It reads that way, but I checked through and found another set of previous leaks from his Twitter and those were on point. Also he has pics of Shatter Jet....have those been seen before? ...and what about Daytrader?

I think Megatron will get the Leader Treatment and possibly a Green Tank (notice how they've avoided that obvious repaint for years). I would totally buy another Megatron especially if it was a little better than Siege.

I'm happy to see BB on the list, hope it's true!

[ZeroWolf]

He seems to have some lists that have been good and others not so good. Is it possible that he's just good at guessing? Plus in a list like this, much of them are safe bets. Basically even a broken clock is right twice a day.

I'm curious to how different the insecticons are going to be from before.

There is also one other thing I have to question. These boxes make no mention of collectible map parts. Where they only coming with the bigger figures?

[Jeddostotle7]

...yeah, this list kind of reads as a grab bag of sure bets, figures from other leaks, and fan vote guys thrown in for padding. There are a handful of things here I would LIKE to see, and I could see many of them happening, but not because this is a legit leak, regardless of how Very big it is.

It does make me wonder though, if we are to get Blaster and/or Megatron, what will they turn into? They still can't/won't do a gun Megatron, and we just got a G1 Tank Megatron that was close enough to an Earth mode that I don't know they can justify another one like they did Trailer OP. I also can't see them making Blaster a boombox when the Soundwave he would presumably be opposing turns into a Space brick dropship/lamppost.

It reads that way, but I checked through and found another set of previous leaks from his Twitter and those were on point. Also he has pics of Shatter Jet....have those been seen before? ...and what about Daytrader?

I think Megatron will get the Leader Treatment and possibly a Green Tank (notice how they've avoided that obvious repaint for years). I would totally buy another Megatron especially if it was a little better than Siege.

I'm happy to see BB on the list, hope it's true!

Those pictures on that account are digibashes, and listed as such. That account has also put out similar "leak" lists before, and they've been largely disproven.

[blackeyedprime]

Wouldnt make sense for one of the Runas to be exclusive but stranger things have happened but the sad thing is, it is then likely a repaint of some other existing figure rather than a mold dedicated to it.

[Randomhero]

Wouldnt make sense for one of the Runas to be exclusive but stranger things have happened but the sad thing is, it is then likely a repaint of some other existing figure rather than a mold dedicated to it.

The monsterbots and seekers And Datsun mold would disagree with you there skip.

The battlechargers will get the same treatment that other fanvotes have recently gotten. They’ll get their own mold.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Alternatively, the Runas could be a retool of Wheeljack.

I really don't see the point in a Skywarp being in every line so far. He was one of the last Tetrajets of the SIEGE line and because of exclusivity nonsense, one of the hardest to come by.

I get that Starscream will likely always be there and repaints, repaints, repaints etc BUT surely just package Earthrise Skywarp and Thundercracker as a two pack, immediately after him. Don't waste slots that could go to New characters, for the same seekers they released barely a year ago.

[ScottyP]

This is weak, and honestly it's starting to get embarrassing. There is nothing to support it being a leak beyond the word "leak" in the post. Does this site have literally any standards for posting rumors as news? Does the leak need to be supported by any independent sources? Does the leaker need to have previous confirmed leaks?

Please do not assume no due diligence was done.

Also, sometimes rumors are posted to the front page purely for the sake of fun and discussion. In the past this has been done and then later stories were removed after confirmation that something was fake.

D-Max did a good job here of describing this stuff as unconfirmed rumor. Our front page contains news, rumors, site exclusive content like galleries and our podcast, sponsored content, a creative roundup, occasional reviews and editorials and even Heavy Metal War content here and there. These are all different things and should be treated accordingly

[Randomhero]

Alternatively, the Runas could be a retool of Wheeljack.

I really don't see the point in a Skywarp being in every line so far. He was one of the last Tetrajets of the SIEGE line and because of exclusivity nonsense, one of the hardest to come by.

I get that Starscream will likely always be there and repaints, repaints, repaints etc BUT surely just package Earthrise Skywarp and Thundercracker as a two pack, immediately after him. Don't waste slots that could go to New characters, for the same seekers they released barely a year ago.

If they get made they will likely be selects and/or amazon. TC and Skywarp will likely not get a standard release and skywarp is still instock at Amazon. He’s not that hard to get.

Sunstreaker if he gets made will probably come from Wheeljack but be an heavy retool only sharing biceps and thighs but the battlechargers will have their own mold.

[gothsaurus]

Cliffjumper looks like he might be a pre-tool for the Battlechargers looking at his backpack. Hmm.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

If they get made they will likely be selects and/or amazon. TC and Skywarp will likely not get a standard release and skywarp is still instock at Amazon. He’s not that hard to get.

Sunstreaker if he gets made will probably come from Wheeljack but be an heavy retool only sharing biceps and thighs but the battlechargers will have their own mold.

I see, I missed a bit. Skywarp is hard to come by internationally. As HasTak have demonstrated time and again, if you a fan/consumer and don't live in the US or Japan, tough luck.

As an aside, it took sourcing SIEGE Skywarp for a friend to discover Amazon aren't a global company at all, but a franchised name, which is pretty bad. It makes an "Amazon exclusive" a meaningless slogan if every Amazon site, doesn't have access to that product. In the same way as exclusivity to US only retail outlets, should be null and void to countries they don't exist in. But that isn't the case, which is insane.

I'd like the Battlechargers to be 100% new mold, but HasTak have been very lazy with a lot of the generic vehicle based bots in WFC. Before we mention the treatment of some of the more unique characters such as the Powerdashers.

[datguy86]

I mean, a lot of this matches up with my Witless Prognostication.

[blackeyedprime]

If they get made they will likely be selects and/or amazon. TC and Skywarp will likely not get a standard release and skywarp is still instock at Amazon. He’s not that hard to get.

Sunstreaker if he gets made will probably come from Wheeljack but be an heavy retool only sharing biceps and thighs but the battlechargers will have their own mold.

I see, I missed a bit. Skywarp is hard to come by internationally. As HasTak have demonstrated time and again, if you a fan/consumer and don't live in the US or Japan, tough luck.

As an aside, it took sourcing SIEGE Skywarp for a friend to discover Amazon aren't a global company at all, but a franchised name, which is pretty bad. It makes an "Amazon exclusive" a meaningless slogan if every Amazon site, doesn't have access to that product. In the same way as exclusivity to US only retail outlets, should be null and void to countries they don't exist in. But that isn't the case, which is insane.

I'd like the Battlechargers to be 100% new mold, but HasTak have been very lazy with a lot of the generic vehicle based bots in WFC. Before we mention the treatment of some of the more unique characters such as the Powerdashers.

Yep, why amazon.uk can't liberate some of the skywarp and G2 swipe stock instead of a monthly email to say they still waiting on the supplier to provide the items is annoying

[Skritz]

I'm still expecting Sunstreaker from Wheeljack, honestly.

[AcademyofDrX]

This is weak, and honestly it's starting to get embarrassing. There is nothing to support it being a leak beyond the word "leak" in the post. Does this site have literally any standards for posting rumors as news? Does the leak need to be supported by any independent sources? Does the leaker need to have previous confirmed leaks?

Please do not assume no due diligence was done.

Also, sometimes rumors are posted to the front page purely for the sake of fun and discussion. In the past this has been done and then later stories were removed after confirmation that something was fake.

D-Max did a good job here of describing this stuff as unconfirmed rumor. Our front page contains news, rumors, site exclusive content like galleries and our podcast, sponsored content, a creative roundup, occasional reviews and editorials and even Heavy Metal War content here and there. These are all different things and should be treated accordingly

This says to me that sometimes there is due diligence, and sometimes there isn't. A list like this may never be disproved, and most of it will probably be confirmed, since the choices are obvious. I'm going to assume there is no due diligence done if it's not explicitly included in the text.

This is your site, not mine, you all can run it how you see fit. If this type of post has a new benefit because of the constant need for new content and high engagement in the forums, then it's a success. I understand this is a fansite and that rumors are part of the game. And I love speculation; I added my own list to others in this very thread, but we were all saying what might happen based on what we thought, and didn't imply any special knowledge or label as a leak.

I will say this, though: posting reports like the one from cookies legitimizes rumors at the cost of the trust and integrity that the site has developed with its fans. Maybe that's on me, and I should treat all rumors are equally suspect, but I come here because I want to separate what's actually happening from the absurd noise of the internet at large.

[gothsaurus]

I have no problem with rumors being posted — as long as they are very clearly marked.

I'd say, too, that if it becomes painfully clear that someone is unreliable or a troll, that they should be flagged as someone unworthy of news... and it sound like this list poster may be on the cusp of such. Maybe the site admins can add him to a watch list or flag him for future evaluation.

[Randomhero]

I'm still expecting Sunstreaker from Wheeljack, honestly.

Their transformations and proportions are about the same and looking how wheeljacks back is the rear of his car and how his spoiler becomes his wings it make sense that the engine block on Sunstreaker would go the same place on his back and car mode too.

Still wish we woulda gotten a Sunstreaker in titans return with a Titan master named Hunter.

I’m really curious about the inevitable Trailbreaker due to them focusing on cartoon accuracy and all and Hoist from the cartoon was designed after his toy where as Trailbreaker was given a lot of liberties in his design like most of the 1984 cast

[Sentinel_Primal]

I find it odd that none of the leaks reference Snapdragon. Didn't Hasbro hint at them working on trying to update "Apeface's partner" wt SDCC? Personally, I'm hoping we see Snapdragon at some point in this or the next part

[Randomhero]

I find it odd that none of the leaks reference Snapdragon. Didn't Hasbro hint at them working on trying to update "Apeface's partner" wt SDCC? Personally, I'm hoping we see Snapdragon at some point in this or the next part

Because it’s a fake leak

[gothsaurus]

Makes sense that we eventually see Snapdragon. I can't see them doing one without the other.

[william-james88]

The Facebook page In Demand Toys has some new images of the upcoming Earthrise figures. These are rather important since they are the first images we have of the finished figures. The ones we saw before were sometimes painted samples and 3D renderings. These are for the smaller figures; the Micromaster packs and Soundbarrier the ramp. We see all the wave 1 deluxe toys in packaging and out of the packaging as well as the back of their boxes.

Fellow Seibertronian Jelzerabbit sent us word of these pics and gave their analysis of the molds (re)used too:

In Demand Toys has the same images, plus Soundbarrier, the Hot Rod Patrol Trip-Up and Daddy-O aka Big Daddy, and finally shots of the Military Patrol Bombshock and Growl. The latter Patrol is quite interesting as they show how far the part sharing has come, as they use Topshot and Flak parts:

- Growl uses Flak's chest and 5mm peg, and Topshot's upper legs
- Bombshock uses Flak's legs, and Topshot's cannon

In other words, most of their grey parts are recycled. The magic of gang-molding

Let us know what you think and if you preordered them yet, they are available for ordering at practically every collectible online store right now.

[Sentinel_Primal]

I find it odd that none of the leaks reference Snapdragon. Didn't Hasbro hint at them working on trying to update "Apeface's partner" wt SDCC? Personally, I'm hoping we see Snapdragon at some point in this or the next part

Because it’s a fake leak

I suppose I need to clarify what I'm saying here. I know the leak is probably fake/relying on obvious choices to attempt to have credibility, but I find it odd that the "leaker" didn't even think to include Snapdragon despite him actually being hinted at

[william-james88]

I find it odd that none of the leaks reference Snapdragon.

That shouldn't mean Snapdragon isn't coming.

Anyone can guess what we will see next anyways. And since that's the case, here's what I think am sure we will see in earthrise (or the line after):

Inferno
Bumblebee
Trailbreaker
Thrust
Ramjet
Dirge
Thundercracker
Skywarp
Snapgradon
Sunstreaker
Scorponok
Quintesson
Allicon

From now on, you can all call me Nostradamos.

[Decepticon Stryker]

Soundbarrier is weird. Look at their box art, they have half the shield dragging behind them but show it fully folded up in all the stock images. I really hope there is a bit more to the transformation that simply tucking in the limbs and folding out the shield... but I doubt it. I mean, I'll still get them cause I'm a sucker for tiny Transformers but... eh.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Soundbarrier is probably one of the worst Transformers I've seen since Beast Machines.

[william-james88]

I really hope there is a bit more to the transformation that simply tucking in the limbs and folding out the shield... but I doubt it.

I doubt it too. Pretty sure he just goes on his tummy and we unfold the ramp.