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[SGMLordMirage]

In my neck of the woods in Virginia, bought wave 1 of the Micromasters at a Target.

Definitely looking forward to seeing Grapple and Soundbarrier.

SGM

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

The mini bots in prime wars and titans return were weak. Off scale and clunky. The siege micromasters today are 100% the same scale/version of the mini bots 35 years ago. That’s all I’m saying- it would be cool to see that run again. Maybe “slightly” bigger than the micro masters- barley. It would be cool. But that’s just my take. Not right, not wrong- just my vision.

1. Prime Wars is the trilogy that contains Combiner Wars, Titans Return, and Power of the Primes, so saying "Prime Wars and Titans Return" is redundant and ignorant.
2. So, you're saying that they're "off scale" because they were made bigger than the original Minibot toys to be IN scale with the similarly bigger-than-the-G1-toy versions of the rest of the cast? I don't think you know what scale means.
Or "Clunky" for that matter, because they have decent articulation for their small size. I know, I own some of them.

Redundant, maybe, but ignorant? No, that’s not necessary.

Also they’re extremely clunky. I don’t think you know what clunky means.

Oh, I know what clunky means. And as someone who owns TR Wheelie and Bumblebee, and PotP Outback and Slash (also CW Blackjack but he doesn't count as a Minibot per se), I don't think they're clunky. They have decent articulation for their size, the pieces don't get in each others' way, they transform fairly smoothly, they scale with modern figures, and they don't have balance issues. How can you call that "clunky"?

I'll show you clunky:

[ZeroWolf]

Poor Armada Sideswipe, always so unloved

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Well, I have the Runabout/Runamuck retool of him and I like it. But I cannot deny the sheer clunk XD

[aronjlove]

In my neck of the woods in Virginia, bought wave 1 of the Micromasters at a Target.

Definitely looking forward to seeing Grapple and Soundbarrier.

SGM

I stopped by my usual Target today and the racks were literally overflowing, with Siege product. Crosshairs and Sideswipe plus a metric buttload of Shockwave and surprisingly a couple of Ultra Magnus. Lots of Siege Micromasters and Battlemasters too. No room for Earthrise if they even had any in stock

[SGMLordMirage]

I guess the stores in my area have found a way to sneak them in amongst all the Seige Shockwaves and other deluxes. Of course maybe 6 months from now we will be saying the same thing about wave 1 of ER. Who knows. Poor Shockwave, he is looking like SS Grimlock and Blackout on the shelves.

I will say, i might get Ironworks now, after having the Micromasters now in hand. Not that they are any different from the Siege line, but with this line we are getting more of that build and play concept like the old Micromaster line.

[Jtprime17]

No images yet but we have Product Descriptions for Arcee and the Alicon!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TRA-Gen-Deluxe ... uage=en_GB
Hasbro Transformers - Quintesson Allicon WFC-E19 (Generations War for Cybertron: Earthrise Deluxe, 14 cm Actionfigure)

DISCOVER EARTHRISE: The siege is over, but the war for Cybertron has just begun. Autobot and Decepticon left Cybertron, but the battle breaks as they travel space at maximum speed, looking for Allspark
Build the next battle field: Earthrise collectible characters allow fans to build epic spatial battle scenes with characters that can become a modular battle station and join together to expand the battlefield (each sold separately, subject to availability)

Earth mode G1 and weapons: Quintesson Allicon character turns into animal mode in 14 steps and comes with a lance as an accessory

THOUGHTFUL REVELATION: Each pack includes a piece of the Transformers Universe map and a red decoder to unlock hidden map paths! Collect the other Earthrise characters to combine the pieces of the entire map together! (Each sold separately, subject to availability)

Build the next battlefield -- The siege is over, but the war for Cybertron has just started. Autobot and Decepticon have left Cybertron, but the battle rages as they travel through space at maximum speed in search of Allspark. Now fighters need to adapt instantly to fight anywhere in the cosmos. With the advanced A.I.R. locking system. (Adaptable Interconnection Retrofitter), fighters don’t go on the battlefield, but they become the same themselves. Bots that convert to modular battle stations can join together with A.I.R.-Lock in custom configurations to suit the needs of battle. This collectible character ecosystem allows fans to build epic space battle scenes with characters that can switch to modular battle station mode and connect to each other to extend the battlefield. (Each sold separately, subject to availability). Quintesson Allicon, obedient sentinel, transforms into animal modes in 14 steps and comes with a lance as an accessory. Transformers and their characters are trademarks of Hasbro.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07YNH7WKV? ... otsinfo-20
Transformers - Arcee WFC-E17 (Generations War for Cybertron: Earthrise Deluxe 14 cm Collectible Action Figure)

DISCOVER EARTHRISE: The siege is over, but the war for Cybertron has just begun. Autobot and Decepticon left Cybertron, but the battle breaks as they travel space at maximum speed, looking for Allspark
Build the next battle field: this collectible character ecosystem allows fans to build epic scenes of space battle with characters that can become a modular battle station and join together to expand the battlefield (each sold separately, subject to availability)

Earth mode G1 and weapons: The Arcee toy converts into the classic G1 sports car mode in 15 steps, and comes with a blaster as an accessory. Part of the character backpack can be removed for a more stylish look and used as a hoverboard.

THOUGHTFUL REVELATION: Each pack includes a piece of the Transformers Universe map and a red decoder to unlock hidden map paths! Collect the other Earthrise characters to combine the pieces of the entire map together! (Each sold separately, subject to availability)

Build the next battlefield -- The siege is over, but the war for Cybertron has just started. Autobot and Decepticon have left Cybertron, but the battle rages as they travel through space at maximum speed in search of Allspark. Now fighters need to adapt instantly to fight anywhere in the cosmos. With the advanced A.I.R. locking system. (Adaptable Interconnection Retrofitter), fighters don’t go on the battlefield, but they become the same themselves. Bots that convert to modular battle stations can join together with A.I.R.-Lock in custom configurations to suit the needs of battle. Earthrise collectible characters allow fans to build epic space battle scenes with characters that can switch to modular battle station mode and connect to each other to extend the battlefield. (Each sold separately, subject to availability). Arcee, the ruthless autobot warrior, turns into the classic 15-step sports car mode and includes a blaster as an accessory. Remove the trunk from the character for a more stylish look and use it as a hoverboard. Transformers and their characters are trademarks of Hasbro.

[Counterpunch]

[aronjlove]

Arcee, the ruthless autobot warrior, turns into the classic 15-step sports car mode and includes a blaster as an accessory. Remove the trunk from the character for a more stylish look and use it as a hoverboard.

This could be interesting, much like the Titans Return Arcee and Blurr with that hood which could be held as a shield.

[Counterpunch]

[Jelze Bunnycat]

[SGMLordMirage]

Good comparisons on Wheeljack and Hoist between the two variants. My Generations version of the two are in another state, so it's good seeing this since I cannot compare mine.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

I definitely like the classic look of Earthrise Hoist in both robot and vehicle mode a lot better than the previous Generations Hoist.

Wheeljack on the other hand... The older figure already has the classic look and does a nice job with it, plus he has the added bonus of being able to use the original Wheeljack's working launchers thanks to the C.O.M.B.A.T. system's 2010-2011 predecessor, the C-joint system, using the same size clips and bars. Still, Earthrise Wheeljack isn't bad. I'm just personally more excited for the Sunstreaker retool.

[Sentinel_Primal]

Earth mode G1 and weapons: The Arcee toy converts into the classic G1 sports car mode in 15 steps, and comes with a blaster as an accessory. Part of the character backpack can be removed for a more stylish look and used as a hoverboard.

And now I'm a little less interested in Arcee. I was hoping she'd have an actual Earth mode like in IDW, but if it's just the same G1 alt mode then that's a major let down for me. Never really cared for the design of it. Maybe when it's revealed I'll change my mind, but at the moment, Arcee's probably a pass

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

You were deluding yourself, then. Myself, I quite like Arcee's Future!Corvette altmode. And while T30 Arcee is cool and all, it would be nice to have a G1 Arcee with 5mm-compatible hands.

That being said, I was kinda hoping Earthrise Arcee would turn out to be a retail version of Titans Return Arcee.

[Ironhidensh]

I couldn't figure out how to embed a tweet but apparently Smashdown gets a slight repaint in the Earthrise release, white instead of silver.

Not from what I've seen.....

[Sentinel_Primal]

You were deluding yourself, then. Myself, I quite like Arcee's Future!Corvette altmode. And while T30 Arcee is cool and all, it would be nice to have a G1 Arcee with 5mm-compatible hands.

That being said, I was kinda hoping Earthrise Arcee would turn out to be a retail version of Titans Return Arcee.

My only issue with it is that everytime I see it, I can't help but feel like they were trying to design a "girl car". Granted, it also reminds me of Penelope Pitstop's car from Wacky Races so that probably is coloring my opinion

[Stargrave]

I love the original Arcee I mean it’s a pink Mach 5. She’s rad, nay, totally radical.

I wish they could have gotten a tad more height with Jack’s wings but his fists totally resonate from his G1 toy/animation model for me.

Hoist looks like he’s right off the cover of the Marvel comic page where he’s saving that Bruce Springsteen wannabe. Bravo he looks so spot on.

[Tuned Agent]

Earth mode G1 and weapons: The Arcee toy converts into the classic G1 sports car mode in 15 steps, and comes with a blaster as an accessory. Part of the character backpack can be removed for a more stylish look and used as a hoverboard.

And now I'm a little less interested in Arcee. I was hoping she'd have an actual Earth mode like in IDW, but if it's just the same G1 alt mode then that's a major let down for me. Never really cared for the design of it. Maybe when it's revealed I'll change my mind, but at the moment, Arcee's probably a pass

To be fair, it says both "Earth mode" and "classic G1 sports car mode". It's like the description couldn't make up it's mind. My bet is still firmly on the G1 alt mode, though.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

I think "Earth mode" is copypaste Earthrise boilerplate.
That being said, the G1 car mode technically is an Earth mode, because Floro Dery conceived Hot Rod, Kup, Blurr, Arcee, and Springer's altmdoes as being future!Earth cars. Arcee in particular actually looks a lot like a Corvette. Seriously, put T30 Arcee in car mode next to G1 Tracks or ROTF Sideswipe in car mode.

[Skritz]

I'm pretty sure Arcee won't look too far off from her classic altmode, tbh.

[Deadput]

Man seeing Earthrise Wheeljack beside the older Generations Wheeljack has cemented my opinion on the latter.

Gen Wheeljack just looked and felt way too...fat? It was fine for Wheeljack but I think that sorta thing hurt the Tracks retool making him feel less sleek then he should of.

[Tuned Agent]

I think "Earth mode" is copypaste Earthrise boilerplate.
That being said, the G1 car mode technically is an Earth mode, because Floro Dery conceived Hot Rod, Kup, Blurr, Arcee, and Springer's altmdoes as being future!Earth cars. Arcee in particular actually looks a lot like a Corvette. Seriously, put T30 Arcee in car mode next to G1 Tracks or ROTF Sideswipe in car mode.

...That's right. And I had known they were supposed to be futuristic Earth modes, too.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Man seeing Earthrise Wheeljack beside the older Generations Wheeljack has cemented my opinion on the latter.

Gen Wheeljack just looked and felt way too...fat? It was fine for Wheeljack but I think that sorta thing hurt the Tracks retool making him feel less sleek then he should of.

The original Gen. Wheeljack was more similar to the original toy with its proportions:


Transformers Generations Wheeljack Gallery

...while ER Wheeljack looks more like the animation. How does that sound? His mold mate Tracks did suffer because of it despite the extended legs, not gonna disagree on that.

[Stargrave]

Earthrise Prime located and purchased. Assessment....undecided. He’s growing on me but man they did such a great job with Siege Prime this is better but not like significantly so.