I'm still happy with my original. Otherwise, I would have bought the Encore (before we all found out about that reissue's Q&A problems).Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm ready for an rid'01 optimus update
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
He doesn't need an update, he just needs a competent reissue. He's already designed to a good standard, and an update would be severely watered-down unless it was Commander-class (and even then it might have issues).Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm ready for an rid'01 optimus update
Well, Takara is working on a new Armada Optimus. A really fancy one, even.Tuned Agent wrote:I'd like to see an Armada and an IDW Optimus, but those aren't going to happen anytime soon. A new Hero OP wouldn't surprise me, and I think they will eventually do another version of Laser Prime. I think they would want to make Laser Prime a leader class though, so they can include his trailer, so I doubt it will happen in ER.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:He doesn't need an update, he just needs a competent reissue. He's already designed to a good standard, and an update would be severely watered-down unless it was Commander-class (and even then it might have issues).Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm ready for an rid'01 optimus update
The RID (2001) molds that need updates are the Autobot Brothers, since the original molds are kaput. Of course, they'd probably have to be Voyagers or a boxset to be on par with or surpass the originals.
Well, Takara is working on a new Armada Optimus. A really fancy one, even.Tuned Agent wrote:I'd like to see an Armada and an IDW Optimus, but those aren't going to happen anytime soon. A new Hero OP wouldn't surprise me, and I think they will eventually do another version of Laser Prime. I think they would want to make Laser Prime a leader class though, so they can include his trailer, so I doubt it will happen in ER.
They did a new Laser Rod Optimus Prime during Titans Return, not sure how soon they'd repeat that. And Laser Prime is another one where a reissue would be good.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, Takara is working on a new Armada Optimus. A really fancy one, even.Tuned Agent wrote:I'd like to see an Armada and an IDW Optimus, but those aren't going to happen anytime soon. A new Hero OP wouldn't surprise me, and I think they will eventually do another version of Laser Prime. I think they would want to make Laser Prime a leader class though, so they can include his trailer, so I doubt it will happen in ER.
They did a new Laser Rod Optimus Prime during Titans Return, not sure how soon they'd repeat that. And Laser Prime is another one where a reissue would be good.
1. Takara may have said that about that Armada Optimus, but I hadn't heard about it yet. And yes, it would cost in excess of that - and be worth it if they pulled it off. I don't think a standard retail rehash of Armada Optimus would end up terribly exciting.Tuned Agent wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, Takara is working on a new Armada Optimus. A really fancy one, even.Tuned Agent wrote:I'd like to see an Armada and an IDW Optimus, but those aren't going to happen anytime soon. A new Hero OP wouldn't surprise me, and I think they will eventually do another version of Laser Prime. I think they would want to make Laser Prime a leader class though, so they can include his trailer, so I doubt it will happen in ER.
They did a new Laser Rod Optimus Prime during Titans Return, not sure how soon they'd repeat that. And Laser Prime is another one where a reissue would be good.
Didn't Takara recently say that that Armada Optimus was just a prototype they made to gauge interest, and that it was not confirmed to ever be produced? Plus, even if it is produced, it would likely cost in excess of $60, probably higher. I'd like to see something released at standard retail.
As for whether they would make a new Laser Prime only a few years after Titans Return, the fact that we got G1 cartoon Primes in both PotP and Siege didn't stop us from getting yet another in Earthrise. Plus, a leader class Laser Prime would be able to have a separate trailer, and not be exclusive to a box set.
I love all the 5mm ports inside, definitely customizable!G1OptimusPAX wrote:I am so glad the trailer came bare bones, so I could add all that I wanted to add to it myself. It maybe a little on the short side, but I'd rather see long trailers on the movie verse toys. This is ok by my standards. Amazing toy.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:1. Takara may have said that about that Armada Optimus, but I hadn't heard about it yet. And yes, it would cost in excess of that - and be worth it if they pulled it off. I don't think a standard retail rehash of Armada Optimus would end up terribly exciting.Tuned Agent wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, Takara is working on a new Armada Optimus. A really fancy one, even.Tuned Agent wrote:I'd like to see an Armada and an IDW Optimus, but those aren't going to happen anytime soon. A new Hero OP wouldn't surprise me, and I think they will eventually do another version of Laser Prime. I think they would want to make Laser Prime a leader class though, so they can include his trailer, so I doubt it will happen in ER.
They did a new Laser Rod Optimus Prime during Titans Return, not sure how soon they'd repeat that. And Laser Prime is another one where a reissue would be good.
Didn't Takara recently say that that Armada Optimus was just a prototype they made to gauge interest, and that it was not confirmed to ever be produced? Plus, even if it is produced, it would likely cost in excess of $60, probably higher. I'd like to see something released at standard retail.
As for whether they would make a new Laser Prime only a few years after Titans Return, the fact that we got G1 cartoon Primes in both PotP and Siege didn't stop us from getting yet another in Earthrise. Plus, a leader class Laser Prime would be able to have a separate trailer, and not be exclusive to a box set.
2. For one thing, that's cartoon Prime. For another, the PotP version is an OS mess that's mainly good for Orion Pax and the cartoon-color Matrix. For a third, the Optimus version of the TR Octane mold was available at retail too. It didn't have the Laser Rod deco, true, but the same features are there.
3. A Gen. Leader Laser Rod Optimus would be alright, I suppose. Wouldn't be as watered-down as some others. But Iunno how I feel about a slot going to it in this trilogy.
Okay, so what you're picturing is essentially "Bendy Prime Redux". I was picturing the complete Armada Optimus package:Tuned Agent wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:1. Takara may have said that about that Armada Optimus, but I hadn't heard about it yet. And yes, it would cost in excess of that - and be worth it if they pulled it off. I don't think a standard retail rehash of Armada Optimus would end up terribly exciting.Tuned Agent wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, Takara is working on a new Armada Optimus. A really fancy one, even.Tuned Agent wrote:I'd like to see an Armada and an IDW Optimus, but those aren't going to happen anytime soon. A new Hero OP wouldn't surprise me, and I think they will eventually do another version of Laser Prime. I think they would want to make Laser Prime a leader class though, so they can include his trailer, so I doubt it will happen in ER.
They did a new Laser Rod Optimus Prime during Titans Return, not sure how soon they'd repeat that. And Laser Prime is another one where a reissue would be good.
Didn't Takara recently say that that Armada Optimus was just a prototype they made to gauge interest, and that it was not confirmed to ever be produced? Plus, even if it is produced, it would likely cost in excess of $60, probably higher. I'd like to see something released at standard retail.
As for whether they would make a new Laser Prime only a few years after Titans Return, the fact that we got G1 cartoon Primes in both PotP and Siege didn't stop us from getting yet another in Earthrise. Plus, a leader class Laser Prime would be able to have a separate trailer, and not be exclusive to a box set.
2. For one thing, that's cartoon Prime. For another, the PotP version is an OS mess that's mainly good for Orion Pax and the cartoon-color Matrix. For a third, the Optimus version of the TR Octane mold was available at retail too. It didn't have the Laser Rod deco, true, but the same features are there.
3. A Gen. Leader Laser Rod Optimus would be alright, I suppose. Wouldn't be as watered-down as some others. But Iunno how I feel about a slot going to it in this trilogy.
How good a standard retail Armada Optimus would be would really depend on how they do it. A voyager might come close in parts count, but I'm not sure it would have the necessary mass (Armada Optimus is a chunky boy, especially when you add his gun). However, at leader class they could just release a finished version of Takara's prototype, with a new Sparkplug, a removable matrix, and maybe even some extra weapons, for less than what it would cost if it were just produced by Takara.
Tuned Agent wrote:You're right about the regular TR voyager Prime, but he doesn't have the trademark deco (which, IMO, is the main reason he's cool). My point about all the G1 Primes still stands though - they aren't afraid to rehash the same thing year after year, so the few years in between TR and now doesn't really mean much. And a leader class Laser Prime wouldn't be my first choice either, but it seems to be mandated that there be a leader class Optimus in every line, and Laser Prime is more likely than most.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Okay, so what you're picturing is essentially "Bendy Prime Redux". I was picturing the complete Armada Optimus package:Tuned Agent wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:1. Takara may have said that about that Armada Optimus, but I hadn't heard about it yet. And yes, it would cost in excess of that - and be worth it if they pulled it off. I don't think a standard retail rehash of Armada Optimus would end up terribly exciting.Tuned Agent wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, Takara is working on a new Armada Optimus. A really fancy one, even.Tuned Agent wrote:I'd like to see an Armada and an IDW Optimus, but those aren't going to happen anytime soon. A new Hero OP wouldn't surprise me, and I think they will eventually do another version of Laser Prime. I think they would want to make Laser Prime a leader class though, so they can include his trailer, so I doubt it will happen in ER.
They did a new Laser Rod Optimus Prime during Titans Return, not sure how soon they'd repeat that. And Laser Prime is another one where a reissue would be good.
Didn't Takara recently say that that Armada Optimus was just a prototype they made to gauge interest, and that it was not confirmed to ever be produced? Plus, even if it is produced, it would likely cost in excess of $60, probably higher. I'd like to see something released at standard retail.
As for whether they would make a new Laser Prime only a few years after Titans Return, the fact that we got G1 cartoon Primes in both PotP and Siege didn't stop us from getting yet another in Earthrise. Plus, a leader class Laser Prime would be able to have a separate trailer, and not be exclusive to a box set.
2. For one thing, that's cartoon Prime. For another, the PotP version is an OS mess that's mainly good for Orion Pax and the cartoon-color Matrix. For a third, the Optimus version of the TR Octane mold was available at retail too. It didn't have the Laser Rod deco, true, but the same features are there.
3. A Gen. Leader Laser Rod Optimus would be alright, I suppose. Wouldn't be as watered-down as some others. But Iunno how I feel about a slot going to it in this trilogy.
How good a standard retail Armada Optimus would be would really depend on how they do it. A voyager might come close in parts count, but I'm not sure it would have the necessary mass (Armada Optimus is a chunky boy, especially when you add his gun). However, at leader class they could just release a finished version of Takara's prototype, with a new Sparkplug, a removable matrix, and maybe even some extra weapons, for less than what it would cost if it were just produced by Takara.
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Hence my "it would be worth it if they pulled it off" comment about the Takara prototype, and why I didn't think a retail Leader version would be terribly exciting.Tuned Agent wrote:You're right about the regular TR voyager Prime, but he doesn't have the trademark deco (which, IMO, is the main reason he's cool). My point about all the G1 Primes still stands though - they aren't afraid to rehash the same thing year after year, so the few years in between TR and now doesn't really mean much. And a leader class Laser Prime wouldn't be my first choice either, but it seems to be mandated that there be a leader class Optimus in every line, and Laser Prime is more likely than most.
They aren't afraid to rehash cartoon Optimus, certainly. Other versions of him are a less-certain matter.
Well, we got a watered-down Cybertron Optimus, does that count?D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I would really like to see a new RiD2001 styled Optimus Prime toy, or a new Armada one. Give us a different design/aesthetic/look please!
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, we got a watered-down Cybertron Optimus, does that count?D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I would really like to see a new RiD2001 styled Optimus Prime toy, or a new Armada one. Give us a different design/aesthetic/look please!
And Takara paid homage to Energon Optimus in their Unite Warriors Convoy Grand Prime set.Skritz wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, we got a watered-down Cybertron Optimus, does that count?D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I would really like to see a new RiD2001 styled Optimus Prime toy, or a new Armada one. Give us a different design/aesthetic/look please!
Technically yes.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:And Takara paid homage to Energon Optimus in their Unite Warriors Convoy Grand Prime set.Skritz wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, we got a watered-down Cybertron Optimus, does that count?D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I would really like to see a new RiD2001 styled Optimus Prime toy, or a new Armada one. Give us a different design/aesthetic/look please!
Technically yes.
Gotta sell that new "G1 Convoy is now a combiner" concept at the same time.Skritz wrote:Sabrblade wrote:And Takara paid homage to Energon Optimus in their Unite Warriors Convoy Grand Prime set.Skritz wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, we got a watered-down Cybertron Optimus, does that count?D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I would really like to see a new RiD2001 styled Optimus Prime toy, or a new Armada one. Give us a different design/aesthetic/look please!
Technically yes.
They still somewhat missed the mark by not making the core Optimus bot look more like 'Fatimus Prime' or using different limbs. A submarine retool of Rook would have been kickass.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, we got a watered-down Cybertron Optimus, does that count?D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I would really like to see a new RiD2001 styled Optimus Prime toy, or a new Armada one. Give us a different design/aesthetic/look please!
You know what I would like to see instead of a watered-down version of an old Super Optimus? Either a break from Optimus Prime toys (aside from special versions of ER Optimus), especially big ones, for a bit... Or for the next big Optimus to veer off the G1 aesthetic in a big way and be the Season 4 Animated Optimus we were robbed of.
G1OptimusPAX wrote:I am so glad the trailer came bare bones, so I could add all that I wanted to add to it myself. It maybe a little on the short side, but I'd rather see long trailers on the movie verse toys. This is ok by my standards. Amazing toy.
Skritz wrote:Funny thing is, in Combiner Wars I much preferred the more unusual 'Battle Core' Optimus Prime with his unique combination of features from Ginrai, Nova Prime and Star Convoy.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
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