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News Credits: 23 · by **aronjlove** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 10:39 am

sol magnus wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Siege Soundwave is a good figure, only major complaint I have was the chest door being too small for the Siege Cassettes. I doubt that they'd do a retro-compatible version because otherwise they wouldn't be able to sell the cassettes as easily, but I really hope that we get a new version for Earthrise that at least can fit the cassettes from the Siege. Plus, I'd be interested in seeing how they handle it. No doubt he'd turn into a music device, but would they do a stereo again, or go with his usual alt mode?

Or, would they do something similar to Shockwave and make him a leader class? The voyager could be standard Soundwave with his cassette player alt mode, with the extra armor giving him a "Box Van that Happens to Also have a Giant Cassette Dispensor" mode. I mean, it's so unlikely, I think I'd see a unicorn win the lottery before it happened, but it'd be interesting to see

I thought he could fit one, but Soundblaster could fit two? I didn't ever try it, so somebody can confirm that.

A cassette fits but if you don't put one in EXACTLY the right way you will have one hell of a time getting the door back open without breaking it. The cassettes are ridiculously snug in the chest compartment, the only one that opens correctly is Laserbeak. Ravage, Rumble, and, RatBat all cause the door to catch when pressing the release button.

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 10:42 am

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Siege Soundwave is a good figure, only major complaint I have was the chest door being too small for the Siege Cassettes. I doubt that they'd do a retro-compatible version because otherwise they wouldn't be able to sell the cassettes as easily, but I really hope that we get a new version for Earthrise that at least can fit the cassettes from the Siege. Plus, I'd be interested in seeing how they handle it. No doubt he'd turn into a music device, but would they do a stereo again, or go with his usual alt mode?

SIEGE Soundwave can fit the cassettes from SIEGE from what I've seen, it's just a tight fit.
And when I talk about making him retro-compatible, I mean having a door able to hold vintage and SIEGE cassettes. Tall and wide enough for the vintage ones, deep enough for the SIEGE ones. Could be workable if they sacrificed the engines.

News Credits: 20 · by **Tuned Agent** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 10:49 am

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Tuned Agent wrote:Ok, so there's a couple of bits of detail towards the back of his head, and probably the little triangle on his forehead (it's hard to tell on that one, it only stands out due to the slight break in the lighting). The line running down the side of his head is almost certainly just the seam between the two halves of his head mold.
I'm not talking about the line running down the side of his head, I'm talking about the horizontal bar that starts at that line and runs around to the back. Look above where the mold seam zags toward the front of his head.
The raised shape on his forehead crest actually looks to be a rectangle. It's definitely there - zooming in confirms.
And don't forget that there's more to the back of his head than we can see, the lower half of it is obstructed in the photo.

Even if the horizontal bar is separate from the bits towards the back, that's still not much, especially compared to the other headsculpts from ER and Siege. Compare his headsculpt to Cliffjumper's, there's quite a difference. And I just checked the CG renders, turns out the detail on his forehead is a triangle (I just guessed that based on the MP). Hopefully it stands out better in-hand than it does in these Takara images.

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:00 am

Well, just bear in mind that there's potentially more detail on the back and sides than the photos allow us to see. The front half of the head lacks detail, which is kinda annoying, but it's also cartoon accurate (so if it bugs you add it to your list of reasons to yell at Floro Dery) and that faceplate makes hims stand out more from the others.

News Credits: 12 · by **Sentinel_Primal** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:27 am

sol magnus wrote:I thought he could fit one, but Soundblaster could fit two? I didn't ever try it, so somebody can confirm that.

Technically, yes, but it's super tight. Soundwave's actually easier to use for that gimmick because only one fots, whereas Soundblaster's too tight for them to be easy to remove

News Credits: 20 · by **Tuned Agent** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:31 am

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, just bear in mind that there's potentially more detail on the back and sides than the photos allow us to see. The front half of the head lacks detail, which is kinda annoying, but it's also cartoon accurate (so if it bugs you add it to your list of reasons to yell at Floro Dery) and that faceplate makes hims stand out more from the others.

Agreed. And at the end of the day, it's a minor grievance, as the rest of the figure is pretty well detailed.

I've been thinking about potential accessories for the inevitable Prowl retool, and since he will likely come with a lightbar he probably won't come with the shoulder cannons. But what about a third accessory? Something I think would be really cool is a removeable bullbar for his alt mode. It could be left on in robot mode to distinguish all three of the Datsun bros, or it could be removed and used as a little shield or something.

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:05 pm

Sentinel_Primal wrote:
sol magnus wrote:I thought he could fit one, but Soundblaster could fit two? I didn't ever try it, so somebody can confirm that.

Technically, yes, but it's super tight. Soundwave's actually easier to use for that gimmick because only one fots, whereas Soundblaster's too tight for them to be easy to remove

Well, that'd be another advantage to a Soundwave that was also compatible with the vintage cassettes. The added height and slight added width would mean he had plenty of room for the SIEGE cassettes.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:54 pm

I always loved Smokescreen's fat chin, it had character and helped set him apart from the other Datsun Bro's even more as well as it being a generally unique face which is sometimes hard to come by when it comes to Transformers who don't have visors/masks.

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:38 pm

Really enjoying the A.I.R. Lock System so far in Earthrise. Finally convinced a Target Employee to dig out a Soundbarrier from the back room, making my wave 1 want list complete. Looking forward to connecting all of this with the TR Titans and Leaders.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 10:12 pm

Optimus's buttcheeks can never be unseen...

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 10:34 pm

It's because HasTak insist on trying to have the toy stash the wheels, rather than let it leave them out and just have them be armor skirting like sensible toys did

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Nice setup there o.supreme

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 10:49 pm

Thought I would give Best Buy a try by ordering me an Optimus Prime.

What I GOT was Astrotrain, and now their web listing says "Styles may Vary" which I am SURE it dod not say before hand. Which says to me that they screwed up enough to have to cover their own skidplates. So tomorrow its off to return Astrotrain (great figure... But I already have one) and go back to wishing I had an Optimus Prime.

by **Jeddostotle7** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 10:55 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:Optimus's buttcheeks can never be unseen...

I got used to them pretty quick from looking at the initial Comic-Con pics multiple times. That plus them actually kinda having a fiction basis with the Studio OX character model, as well as being significantly less noticeable/disruptive than Siege Prime's backpack.

On top of that, when I got the figure in hand, I discovered the bumper/front wheels piece is purposefully designed to pop off easily to further perfect his silhouette.

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 12:03 am

Besides, ER Optimus' buttcheeks have NOTHING on G1 Menasor's:

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:11 am

Jeddostotle7 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:Optimus's buttcheeks can never be unseen...

I got used to them pretty quick from looking at the initial Comic-Con pics multiple times. That plus them actually kinda having a fiction basis with the Studio OX character model, as well as being significantly less noticeable/disruptive than Siege Prime's backpack.

On top of that, when I got the figure in hand, I discovered the bumper/front wheels piece is purposefully designed to pop off easily to further perfect his silhouette.

Funny, I actially prefer Siege Prime's jetpack backpack. Its not that they are butt cheeks that bothers me, but I dont like the orientation of it for some reason asthetically on Earthrise. Siege has more 5mm Peg holes and the extra kibble is at least usable as something

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:14 pm

If only Floro Dery had left most of Shōhei Kohara's original character model designs alone so that the wheels and such wouldn't have to be hidden on the 1984 characters.

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:23 pm

Sabrblade wrote:If only Floro Dery had left most of Shōhei Kohara's original character model designs alone so that the wheels and such wouldn't have to be hidden on the 1984 characters.

Well, designers could ignore the Deryisms. And I wish they would.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:00 pm

But Dairy is an important part of a good and balanced breakfast! /s

News Credits: 23 · by **aronjlove** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:27 pm

Deadput wrote:But Dairy is an important part of a good and balanced breakfast! /s

Yeah, but as I've grown older I've become more and more lactose intolerant.

News Credits: 4501 · by **william-james88** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:24 pm

aronjlove wrote:
Deadput wrote:But Dairy is an important part of a good and balanced breakfast! /s

Yeah, but as I've grown older I've become more and more lactose intolerant.

Jokes aside, dairy is not an important part of a good and balanced diet, at all. It never was. You do need calclium, that's important, but you can just as easily get it from kale or canned salmon.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:43 pm

william-james88 wrote:
aronjlove wrote:
Deadput wrote:But Dairy is an important part of a good and balanced breakfast! /s

Yeah, but as I've grown older I've become more and more lactose intolerant.

Jokes aside, dairy is not an important part of a good and balanced diet, at all. It never was. You do need calclium, that's important, but you can just as easily get it from kale or canned salmon.

Indeed.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:15 pm

Back to Earthrise, when is the next round of reveals? Or has everything for this part of WFC been revealed?

by **Jeddostotle7** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:21 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:Back to Earthrise, when is the next round of reveals? Or has everything for this part of WFC been revealed?

I think Wave 4, whatever it'll be, has yet to be revealed, but most of the stuff for most of the rest of the year has been revealed I believe.

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:34 pm

I hope the virus situation improves in time to not hit my Renaissance Faire job too hard... I'm looking forward to so much of Earthrise and especially to Scorponok, and that seasonal job is my main source of income..

News Credits: 12 · by **Sentinel_Primal** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:36 pm

Jeddostotle7 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:Back to Earthrise, when is the next round of reveals? Or has everything for this part of WFC been revealed?

I think Wave 4, whatever it'll be, has yet to be revealed, but most of the stuff for most of the rest of the year has been revealed I believe.

I'm not entirely convinced we'll see a wave 4. Wave 2 is due out September, with Wave 3 being November. It's a bit of a tight window for a fourth wave, especially since Siege Wave 5 was practically non-existent in brick and mortar